The 'Civilising' Effects Of Wars On Future Generations

Modern weapons are too powerful, too destructive, and too accurate for major nation-states to contemplate use against each other. Hot wars are proxy wars....but they are not really wars, now, are they?

Real war is aimed at taking territory, evicting or killing the occupants, changing the dominant culture and installing your citizens, dominating the economy, and staying.

Want an example? Mexico puts its crap citizens illegally over the border. They don't learn English but we give them jobs, and after a while shrug our shoulders and offer amnesty. Now they invite their cousins and the cycle repeats itself. At a certain percentage of the population, white people flee. The property is bought up at low prices. The politics is now dominated by those who only 25 years ago were the illegal invader...uh, sorry...I mean immigrant.

In case you don't get it, I'm talking about California.

Other places where this is happening: Britain. France. Italy.

You do realize this is why the USA's borders include everything west of the Appalachians?
 

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Modern weapons are too powerful, too destructive, and too accurate for major nation-states to contemplate use against each other. Hot wars are proxy wars....but they are not really wars, now, are they?

Real war is aimed at taking territory, evicting or killing the occupants, changing the dominant culture and installing your citizens, dominating the economy, and staying.

Want an example? Mexico puts its crap citizens illegally over the border. They don't learn English but we give them jobs, and after a while shrug our shoulders and offer amnesty. Now they invite their cousins and the cycle repeats itself. At a certain percentage of the population, white people flee. The property is bought up at low prices. The politics is now dominated by those who only 25 years ago were the illegal invader...uh, sorry...I mean immigrant.

In case you don't get it, I'm talking about California.

Other places where this is happening: Britain. France. Italy.
I don't know if I should shake my head at your ignorance or at at your blatant bigotry.

The United States obtained the entire Southwest under conditions that were, at best, dubious at the time. That being the case, the term invader is a bit ironic in this context.

As far as Mexico sending the dregs of its society into the U.S., that is also a load of BS. Just because they are willing to do manual labor and do not speak English as well as the Queen Mum doesn't make them scum. Many of them, in actual fact are seamlessly bilingual, which is more than most AMERICANS can claim.

I would spend some time trying to explain why your are so wrong on so many levels. but life is too short to waste it trying to rescue an Internet troll with what appears to be a serious set of issues.

We Divorce you.

To Coventry with You

Banned
 
snip. Banhammer.
I agree with you and completely disagree with Tusky.

But by now, the Southwest being American is 100% justified. By American I don't mean white American, I mean American.

After all Mexico, too, was an enemy of the Apache and other natives, the northern territories of the Mexican Empire had few actual Catholic, Spanish-speaking Mexicans in them, and the US has owned the Southwest for more than 150 years.

Rightfully you could say the native Americans should own all of the Southwest but that's not feasible because there are so many Anglo-Americans and Mexicans there now.
 
Never count out human greed and lust for power. After WW1 many people assumed that there could never be another major war again. That theory was proved wrong pretty quickly.

We may be in a globalized, integrated world, but there's always a chance for a major war. The Congo Wars [as was mentioned} proved that. And once nuclear weapons are nullified {it will happen}, wars will spring up again.

For this case, I hope nukes are never nullified, if all we have to look forward too is a massive war{s}.
 
There is literally nothing the trenches have to compare to the Axis-Soviet War, where the "good" guys were a repressive, thuggish murderous totalitarian dictatorship which had a fetish for shooting its own people in carload lots and wholesale deportation of entire ethnic groups and the bad guys were omnicidal maniacs who literally killed anyone and everyone they could kill at some point of those 12 years of Nazi rule. When we start out with the regime that did things like Katyn and we have the rivalry be between the slave labor system of the Gulag and the vicious, cruel discipline of the Commissars and NKVD as opposed to the intentional war of aggression for the purpose of annihilating Russian civilization, with murder factories and the savage, cruel discipline of the SD........:eek::eek::eek::eek::(:(

When you describe the Eastern Front like that it bears more than a passing resemblance to WH40K :eek:

do not speak English as well as the Queen Mum doesn't make them scum. Many of them, in actual fact are seamlessly bilingual, which is more than most AMERICANS can claim.

and English too. We are notoriously bad at learning other languages

The Queen Mum's been communicating through a medium? ;)
 
The frightening bit is that it actually kind of does. With the USSR as the Imperium, the Communists as the Ecclesiarchy, and the Nazis as Khorne and his Chaos-Spawn.

You're tempting me to write an ASB scenario involving the more occult-minded Nazis invoking Khorne--and it actually works.

(Perhaps the mass death on the Eastern Front causes spontaneous Khornate manifestations, which the fading occultists of the Nazi Party take heed of.)
 
You're tempting me to write an ASB scenario involving the more occult-minded Nazis invoking Khorne--and it actually works.

(Perhaps the mass death on the Eastern Front causes spontaneous Khornate manifestations, which the fading occultists of the Nazi Party take heed of.)

And the personality cult Stalin had already built before WWII provides its own ready-made counterpart of "For da Emprah!"
 
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