The Chilotes in an independent Patagonia

Chilotes were a Spanish-speaking people (mostly mestizos) originally living in the island of Chiloé. They were well-known for their culture, especially their mythology, considering their relative isolated from the rest of the empire.

The emigration of some Chilotes from the island to Patagonia were considered important in the development of the both sides of the region (not just economical, also cultural). Now, if the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia was a success, how it will describe the relationship between Orélie-Antoine de Tounens (Aurelio Antonio I) and the Chilote immigrants and their descendants?
 
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I am. :) I'm afraid I don't know enough about Chiloé's history to make a better assessment. What's your's ?
 
Well then, let's dig deeper for resources ! I'll try to find some more info on them online. Alternatively, you could ask Scorched Light. He knows a thing or two about Chiloé and its history.
 
Sounds interesting, but I've never heard of them before either. Definitely count me in on reading any info you dig up.:)
 
Here's from Chile: The Brandt Travel Guide by Tim Buford:
"The Mapuche uprising of 1598 drove the Spaniards out of Auracanía and the Lakes region, leaving Chiloé cut off and dependent for survival on an annual ship from Peru. This demanded high prices for its cargo and paid low prices for Chiloé's exports, so that the Spanish settlers were as poor as their neighbors and intermarried with them, producing a distinctive and homogeneous society, with a vibrant folklore centred on sorcery and supernatural creatures."

"After a collapse of the potato market, many Chilotes left to work on the estancias of Argentina, a tradition which continues to this day due to their reputation for hard work. Indeed, the Chilotes, with their strong Catholic values, their folklore and their large families, can be seen as the Irish of South America..."

From an article in the Spanish-language Wikipedia about Rioplatense Spanish:
"El dialecto rioplatense se diversifica como variante en todas las provincias de Patagonia argentina (incluyendo La Pampa) y es conocida popularmente como variante patagónica o sureña. Este giro presenta sus focos en las aglomeraciones de Comodoro Rivadavia y de la ciudad de Neuquén, sus principales centros urbanos.

Se denotan algunas variaciones levemente audibles en la fonología, entre los que se destaca la pronunciación de [ʒ] más relajada, no llegando a aproximarse a [ʃ], y una entonación menos rítmica. Esto y algunas características gramaticales quizás fueran producto de la influencia del castellano chilote, cuyos hablantes ayudaron a poblar esta región. El léxico cuenta con algunos chilenismos y chilotismos, otras voces procedentes de una variedad de lenguas indígenas de la región e inmigrantes."
 
I am not sure that Orélie-Antoine would have had that much power. From what I have been able to dig up, it seems like the Mapuche Loncos aimed to have him as a figurehead king. So the answer may be: what did the local Mapuche think of the people on Chiloe?

I do expect that Chiloe would still be part of Chile, even after a successful Mapuche war against Chile. The island seems fairly well integrated into Chile after the wars of independence in South America.

fasquardon
 
I see two options, but deal with the option of a possibly independent Chiloé Archipelago that I find more interesting.

a) Sebastian de Cordes, does not raid and conquer Valdivia in 1600. Instead settles in Chiloé. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Chilean

b) Chiloe by the time of Chilean independence was Royalist stronghold (1810–1826), like Valvidia. The latter captured by Tomas Cochrane in 1820. Lets say that Ramón Freire's expedition to capture the Island of Chiloé does not occur or fails.

Cite from Wikipedia's Chiloe Archipielago article ''Unlike the central region of Chile where a long war of independence resumed after a Spanish reoccupation, Chiloé never joined the Patria Vieja (Old Republic), and its population rather than conspiring to overthrow the local Spanish administration gave it wide support. From 1812 and on, men from Chiloé would be enlisted as soldiers and sent to fight in Chile, Bolivia and Peru for the royalist cause. In December 1817 the island became the last stronghold of Spanish royalists (together with Valdivia) fleeing from the Chilean mainland. A Chilean expedition led by Thomas Cochrane, 10th Earl of Dundonald disembarked 60 men under command of William Miller but failed to conquer it after the small but disastrous Battle of Agüi. Another unsuccessful conquest attempt occurred in 1824 when Jorge Beauchef, who had disembarked in Chiloé Island, was ambushed at the Battle of Mocopulli. Only on 15 January 1826 did the Spanish forces of Antonio de Quintanilla negotiated a surrender to a new military expedition led by Ramon Freire, and the island was fully incorporated into the independent Republic of Chile, although Spain did not recognize Chile until 1844.''
 
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I do expect that Chiloe would still be part of Chile, even after a successful Mapuche war against Chile. The island seems fairly well integrated into Chile after the wars of independence in South America.

fasquardon
Chiloé would remain part of Chile, that's already given.
 
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