The C.S.A. Collapses - Now What?

Faraday Cage

Maybe Virginia would only leave the weakening Confederacy after gaining a settlement of peace and association of some kind with the Union? A friendly Virginia as a buffer between the rebs and Washington. Virginia is allowed to have a strong military (for it's size) but all of it's concentrations are on the other side of the state from the Union border.
 

Thande

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I think so. Look at East-West Germany; North-South Korea; etc.
In both those cases, however (and especially the latter) homeland patriotism is tempered by concerns over reintegrating the backward partner: in this case Virginia would probably be overly agricultural and, if not slaveholding, would probably still have treatment of blacks repugnant to most of the U.S. states.

Also, it's not as if West Virginia and Virginia ever reunified within the USA in OTL...
 
It is true that the two Virginias would remain separate from one another, unless, depending on the POD, it was a China situation in which two states were simultaneously claiminging to be the legitimate government of Virginia. This, however, is unlikely.
 

Thande

Donor
It is true that the two Virginias would remain separate from one another, unless, depending on the POD, it was a China situation in which two states were simultaneously claiminging to be the legitimate government of Virginia. This, however, is unlikely.

East Germany didn't claim to be the legitimate government of all Germany... (West Germany did, though, admittedly)
 
So, let's say that the C.S.A. does collapse at some point (perhaps they get an early victory, say, in 1861 to 1862, so national identity isn't as strong). What parts of the former C.S.A. (the original 11 states as we can't really be sure if they'd be expansionists) are likely to secede?

South Carolina is a very likely choice. The Fire Eaters had largely been passed over in the formation of the Confederate government and they almost didn't join the CSA because it banned the international slave trade.
 
But I was thinking more a area which is very majority black is set apart as a southern black,freed slave homeland ala Israel.
All blacks don't have to go there of course.

The CSA government doesn't have the power to do that. This is even less true if the CSA fragments.
 
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