The Bulgarian Gambit

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Just letting the Polish government in exile back in with token control will be a major political and propaganda success if they take it. Allow the Polish military units in exile in the UK to return home and serve as the cadre for a Polish Defense Force, and they will be over the moon.

There is no way Churchill could not show some positive views on this.

As the Jews aren't being lined up to be killed anymore, this is also going to have very positive ramifications. This one move will effectively save millions of lives.
 
The Frontier and the State

September 1, 1941 Headquarters Army Group South

Field Marshal Von Rundstedt walked into the conference room. All of the officer immediately stood, several of the younger men almost shot out of their chairs in haste. The Field Marshal pointedly did not give permission for his staff and the other officers to resume their seats. Instead he walked over to the large wall map covering the Romanian front and jammed his finger onto the icon for Bucharest. “I can confirm gentlemen that the Russians have collapsed the last pockets of resistance in the city. Their infantry will be tied up for some time restoring order, but I assure you their tanks will be free now to continue their advance.” He paused and scanned the room. “I want to emphasize that a renewed Russian advance is unacceptable. In fact the honor of the German army has already been damaged enough with the fall of Bucharest. I want options now for a counter attack before the weather closes in and before the Russians can consolidate.”
The representative from General Schobert’s 11th Army spoke “Field Marshal, General Schobert is certain that he can launch a limited offensive within the week. The Russians have spent themselves attacking into the Carpathians and the foothills. If the Romanian 3rd Army continues to hold in the North, he believes he can retake Jassy*.” Von Rundstedt looked at General Kleist representative. Colonel General Hube spoke “The First Panzer Group has completed its immediate operations against the Soviet 5th and 6th Armies. As reported the Soviet armor has been completely routed. We believe they attacked with between 8 and 12 armor divisions or their equivalent,**and we can report that 4 of these divisions have been destroyed outright, 2 to 3 have been crippled and Ivan has 1 or 2 in reserve, but understrength. General Kleist is prepared to immediately launch a general attack at the junction of their two armies.*** He wants to commit both Panzer divisions and one of the SS divisions under his command. He will hold the other SS division in reserve along with his motorized division, to exploit any break. Tactically he wants to split the seam and advance to Rovno. He expects this will give him greater flexibility to turn North or South as required.” Von Rundstedt nodded spoke. “Have Kleist coordinate his attack with Guderian, the General still have four Panzer divisions of his own and we don’t want to see those go to waste. If he has any problems tell him to have General Bock call me and we can straighten out demarcation lines. Now what about the Reserve Army?” barked the Field Marshal General List walked over to the map to stand next to the Field Marshal. “I have pulled as many troops as I dare out of the 12th Army and have them concentrating here in Bulgaria. With the additional reinforcements promised from Berlin I am confident that I can go over onto the offensive within two weeks. General Weindt informs me that he has completed the occupation of the former Soviet bases in Eastern Bulgaria and will be able to reinforce his lines in the same time frame. Of course I could use some more armor…” “Everyone could.” Snapped Von Rundstedt. He stalked to the front of the table. “Sit, now we hear the details.”

September 3, 1941 – Moscow, NKVD headquarters.

The Commissar for Internal Affairs, head of the NKVD and member of the State Defense Committee yelled into his phone. “Comrade General Morosov, your excuses are of no interest to me and I assure you that Comrade Stalin will be even less pleased by your failures. The transfer of a single division of tanks is not a justification for the disgraceful performance of you or your staff. I am going to send a personal representative to see you, perhaps he can better express the Chairman and mine’s displeasure.” Then he slammed down the phone hard.
The display of temper did not give Lavrentiy Beria any relief. He looked down at the reports from the North West Front. They were uniformly bad. Not only had the idiot Morosov managed to get his army largely destroyed, but now it appeared that Sobennikov’s 8th Army was also breaking**** . The Germans had launched a general offensive in the North and it looked like the North-West Front wouldn’t hold. Morosov had already lost Kaunas(%) and now Sobennivol was going to have to fall back to Riga. He doubted that the Germans could be stopped there either. He made a mental note to call the NKVD commander in Latvia, there were any number of class enemies being held in Riga. They would have to be liquidated before the Germans arrived. He would enjoy sending that report to the Boss! He couldn’t believe how incompetent those shits in the army were. At least Timoshenko would have to do some explaining tonight. Hopefully the good Marshal would experience one of the bosses tantrums, now that would be amusing.
The next report was on Romania. The NKVD troops in Bucharest were having some difficulty rounding up resisters in the capital. He made a note to send an aid down to motivate the local commander. It was no time to be soft on the capitalist or their aristocratic lackies. He also noted that some effort should be made to preserve the government buildings. The boss was set to announce the new Romanian government and it would be better if some symbols of the old regime could be co-opted. The report also noted that some military signal traffic bordered on defeatist talk. Several commanders had complained about supply difficulties and inadequate support. Names would have to be taken, he made a note to Yuri to see that a list was kept. Also he better review the list of commissar officers attached to those units and have reports on reliability prepared. He glanced at the last reports from Bulgaria. A few scattered transmitters were still sending, but he suspected that the Germans might already have turned his agents. In any event the country was lost for now. The Navy was pulling out the last of the garrisons from the coast and taking wounded back to Odessa. Another note went into the file, foreign contamination was have to be checked. A through screening process to insure no bourgeoisie ideals had infected the men would have to be done. He tossed the pile on the top of the others.
He picked up the green folder for England and the US. The OGPU reported that their man in the English ‘Iberian’ desk was providing quite good information on the talks. It appeared that most of the conservatives did not want to quit the war yet, but that there was some talk of a peace. The left was more divided. The English communist had been instructed to take a more positive stance towards the war now, but a few were disillusioned at the recent change. The US report was even briefer. They didn’t have a lot of high assets in the military, but their political men gave some background information. It seemed the Roosevelt was less interested now in dealing with the European problem. That damned photo of the Jews walking out of the Ghetto had made quite a splash in the US. The reactionary dogs in the Bund might gain some out of this. Beria made a note for an update on the Bund and the others, especially Ford and Lindbergh. The Americans were split on the ‘leaked’ offers to the governments in exile too. The public seemed hopeful that it was a real peace proposal. The government and President were cooler towards the effort. Beria made a note to have Browder will have to be told to shift efforts away from peace. Better to forward a copy to Georgi Dimitov over at the comintern, the Bulgarian was a pig, but useful at times. He turned on his desk lamp as the last of the days sun fled the office. Time to go see the boss he thought, at least tonight it is the army on the spit.

*Jassy in just West of the Bug River, opposite Moldavia and about 200km North of the Danube.
**early in the War the Russians grouped their tanks in Mechanized Corps, which sometimes had multiple armor divisions, attached armor brigades or even almost no armor at all. As a consequence the early German intelligence on divisions was often confused. In fact in our TL the 5th Army under Potapov would have had 5 armor divisions and the 5th Army under Muzychenko would have had 6. Both were under strength in our 1941, but slightly better here as the Russians front loaded their reserves for an attack.
*** this would be slightly Northeast of Lvov along the Bug River.
****In this TL Sobennikov’s 8th Army had lost a good portion of its armor for the Romanian offense, that left just 9 undermanned infantry divisions and 1 armor division (mainly with older T-26s) to defend against Hoeppner’s 4th Panzer army and two more regular German armies. The Soviet 5th Also started with1 less tank division and two infantry divisions (cadres) transferred South.
%In Southern Lithuania about 75km from the initial German/Russian border
 
Hmm, for some reason I have never suscribed to a thread....guess it always slipped my mind. Now I'm going to have to go to all my fav TLs and suscribe.
I decided to suscribe to your TL, it is an interesting and refreshing taste in a Hitler is assasinated pod. By the way your scenes on the battlefront are good! Keep up the great work. Also, thanks for the Italian perspective. :)
 
Just letting the Polish government in exile back in with token control will be a major political and propaganda success if they take it. Allow the Polish military units in exile in the UK to return home and serve as the cadre for a Polish Defense Force, and they will be over the moon.

There is no way Churchill could not show some positive views on this.

As the Jews aren't being lined up to be killed anymore, this is also going to have very positive ramifications. This one move will effectively save millions of lives.

Well it is a sort of 'peace' offensive. The new German government needs to end the war on one of teh fronts. It has a preference for ending things in the West. Right now it is trying by carrot and stick to get England to seriously negotiate, more on that later.

Jay - Gemellus
 
Hmm, for some reason I have never suscribed to a thread....guess it always slipped my mind. Now I'm going to have to go to all my fav TLs and suscribe.
I decided to suscribe to your TL, it is an interesting and refreshing taste in a Hitler is assasinated pod. By the way your scenes on the battlefront are good! Keep up the great work. Also, thanks for the Italian perspective. :)

Thanks, I like writing the battlefield stuff, I am toying with some detailed tactical stuff, but I need to get some strategic POV in first. No problem on Italy. I have a few ideas for the Africa Korps and Greece coming up that may involve the Italians.

J - Gemellus
 
Soldier's Diary

September 15, 1941 – (150 km inside Russia, North of Pripet Marsh)

Ivan was intent on giving us a little grief today. Peter came back from the field kitchen with a hot meal around 8 PM and we were all so exhausted we could barely stuff the food down. The day began with some shelling. I expect that the Russians didn’t want the 195th to catch up with what was left of their infantry, so they tried to fix us with some shelling. It wasn’t that bad, because they obviously didn’t have our positions registered. Plus they were pretty sloppy with their fire. I expect it is because we got so many of their gunners after we got through the frontier. Joseph told me that we even captured some of their guns, but I didn’t see any. Our own artillery began firing back almost as soon as they opened fire. We also saw a flight of dive bombers go overhead, they had to be Stukas but they didn’t stop to help us, no doubt on their way to help the armor up ahead.
We drank the last of the vodka that we got out of the village last week. I have been mixing it with some of the water I put in the canteens, I expect that is why I don’t have the shits like most of the rest of the company. Captain Falkenburg tells us that we are going to get a rest soon. He thinks that they will pull us out of the line for a couple of days rest. I am not so sure, but I am not a Prussian like our good captain. Sometimes I wonder if there are a bunch of ‘officer trees’ somewhere near Konigsberg and whenever a war is planned they harvest a new crop. It is not that Falkenburg is a bad officer, he is just a bit of a tool when it comes to some of the new men, way to formal. A couple more battles and he will settle down, till then he still walks like he has a stick up his butt. He does take care of us however and for that I am thankful.

September 18, 1941

Two hard days of fighting. It looks like the Russians are going to make a stand before we get to Minsk. I am actually glad that they are fighting out here in the countryside. I have had enough of city fighting to last me the whole war. Brest Litovsk was a friggen nightmare. When Ivan gets dug in he is pretty hard to get to come out and play. In the field he is still tough but he is slow. Richard says that’s because they have to wait for orders in the country, in the city they can just fight. Don’t know if it is true, but for whatever reasons Ivan is very very good when he has a roof over his head. I expect that the tankers prefer to fight out in the open too. We saw a couple of the new Russian tanks, T-34s, knocked out on the side of the road. I looked inside one but it was all burned out. The Captain says they are good tanks, not as good as ours, but better than we expected. I told this to one of our tank crews we ran across on the road yesterday. The driver said Falkenburg was full of crap. I thought he meant that the Russian tanks were no good, but he said no. In fact they are better than our tanks, really tough to knock out. But, the Russians don’t know how to use them.
I got a letter today from my sister Joan. She says that there have been a lot of changes in Leipzig. The local party man has lost his job and there are a lot of people saying they were never ‘real’ Nazis. A new mayor is running the city now. I expect that the Chancellor wanted to make sure his hometown was cleaned up. Joan says that a couple of the Jews have come back from Poland. They are telling some really shocking stories. I expect if I hadn’t seen what goes on in a war that I might not believe some of what she said. But now I can believe almost anything. Last night when we finally got pulled out of the line for some rest we went into some little flea infested hovel and were shocked to find some Russian or Ukrainian women. We all started drinking and we got them drunk too, whether they wanted to or not. We made them dance all night on top of ‘stage’ we made. It was pretty ugly and I would like to say that I was innocent, but I wasn’t. I went along with what we did.*

September 19, 1941

Our company got pulled back from the fighting. We had to go over to where some of the SS penal battalions were bivouacked. When we arrived he reinforced a field police company that was there. The SS pricks were pretty sullen. I didn’t hear it all but they apparently objected to taking orders from the Army colonel in charge. He called in the field police and us. A lot of the SS guys were obviously in the field for the first time. Later I heard that some of them came out of camps and the General-Government in Poland. I bet they joined up for a soft life behind the lines. When Goerdeler took over he fed the lot of them into penal battalions. Must have been a pretty big shock to be behind a desk one day or harassing some Jewish girl and the next day have Ivan shooting at you. Well whatever they thought was going to happen when the disobeyed the Colonel didn’t. I saw half a dozen taken and put onto carts with their hands tied. The Colonel did shout at them, he just pointed at them and told the rest they could all go back to their old camps if they wanted, but this time as inmates and he would see that the Gypsies were running the places. A lot of us thought that was pretty funny, but the SS guys didn’t look too amused.

September 27, 1941

Minsk is a pretty big place. Ivan had shot his bolt and we didn’t have to fight our way in like I was afraid of. The Captain says that the division will be stopping here for a while. We are going to be used to help out the field police again. Apparently that Colonel that had problems with the SS put in a good word for us. I am all for a break from the action. If I can sleep inside for a change and not get shot at I am perfectly willing to spend the rest of the war here.
When we got into the city last week I was surprised how many Jews there were. Most of them shut themselves inside when we got here. The army has sent out some sound trucks and issued flyers saying we aren’t their enemy. I hear that we also are tying to get some help from the Russians here. Although Peter tells me they aren’t really Russians but Belly Russians, whatever that is. I guess whoever they are the army wants to keep them quiet. We arrested a few of the people, and took some women and children to a big hotel that the army took over. I think they are probably hostages, but for all I know they might be guests. The little kid from last week is still with us. In fact there are several kids with the company. Falkenburg says that we need to keep it informal, but that we can use them to run errands and help with fatigue duties.** If it means I won’t have to dig another latrine or I can get my clothes washed I am all for it.

October 1, 1941

It looks like the summer is over. It was pretty cool last getting down to about 11 degrees Celsius. It also has rained the last few days off an on. I am glad we are inside. We got to listen to the radio for a few hours at the canteen. It looks like the rest of the army is still pretty busy. The President spoke briefly about our duty to Christian civilization and how this is not a war of conquest. It all sounded fine, but to be honest he isn’t half the speaker Hitler was. The Fuhrer could really get you worked up. Beck seemed kind of bland.

October 12, 1941

Our time in Minsk is over. We are moving up to the front now. I really don’t know where the front is, but I hear that Ivan is in some trouble. I wish Joan would write again, I miss Leipzig and her letters make it feel closer.



*I cribbed this incident from a great book called “Stranger to Myself” a diary written by a German soldier in the 195th (Peter Reese). It is a great book if you want a ground eye view of the war and of man’s inhumanity to man.
**In our TL the Germans accepted HIWIS into their units. These were Russians or other ethnic groups that for whatever reasons decided to work for the Germans. Given the toning down of the ‘superman’ propaganda they will be even more common in this TL.
 
As the Jews aren't being lined up to be killed anymore, this is also going to have very positive ramifications. This one move will effectively save millions of lives.
Joan says that a couple of the Jews have come back from Poland. They are telling some really shocking stories.
Problem is Germany has spend the last 20 years with rising levels of Anti-Semitism. even if it has offically ended at the top, Few Rank & File, Germans would care.
They will just pass the Stories off as Jewish Attempts to cause trouble.

Don't believe anything till it is Officially Denied, leads to, Anything being officially Confirmed must be False.
So even Official confirmation, will just lead to more disbelief.
 

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Problem is Germany has spend the last 20 years with rising levels of Anti-Semitism. even if it has offically ended at the top, Few Rank & File, Germans would care.
They will just pass the Stories off as Jewish Attempts to cause trouble.

Don't believe anything till it is Officially Denied, leads to, Anything being officially Confirmed must be False.
So even Official confirmation, will just lead to more disbelief.

Oh I don't doubt that a lot of people will not buy it, at least for a while.

In Germany itself, there are going to be problems for some time yet. The biggest issue will be with the help of Jewish and other populations that reside in other countries.

Granted, this still doesn't mean that some people aren't going to be doing horrible things out of spite, or because the local commander may not be nice and honest, but any events that occur ITTL will be random and possibly sporadic, and not wholesale.
 
Problem is Germany has spend the last 20 years with rising levels of Anti-Semitism. even if it has offically ended at the top, Few Rank & File, Germans would care.
They will just pass the Stories off as Jewish Attempts to cause trouble.

Don't believe anything till it is Officially Denied, leads to, Anything being officially Confirmed must be False.
So even Official confirmation, will just lead to more disbelief.


Well Germany certainly won't be a heaven on earth for Jews. But a fair chunk of the new government are pretty committed to stamping out anti-semitism. Of course that assumes they remain in power.

Jay - Gemellus
 
Oh I don't doubt that a lot of people will not buy it, at least for a while.

In Germany itself, there are going to be problems for some time yet. The biggest issue will be with the help of Jewish and other populations that reside in other countries.

Granted, this still doesn't mean that some people aren't going to be doing horrible things out of spite, or because the local commander may not be nice and honest, but any events that occur ITTL will be random and possibly sporadic, and not wholesale.

In fact the new government has a new boogie man. The Communist and to a lesser extent those dastardly Nazi's who cut a deal with them. A more moderate, actually a sane, racial policy in the East and internally has huge effects on the war and foreign relations.

jay - gemellus
 
Manuvering for Position

October 1, 1941 – Berlin, Office of the President of the Reich

“I say again that our priority must be to destroy the Russian Armies in Romania! Our Advances into the Baltic have given us some territory, and some prisoners, but little else. The Army burning up fuel at an impossible rate. Soon we will have to stop. Better to retain the oil fields…” argued General Halder “But” interrupted the Justice Minister “we have a unique opportunity here to drive deep into Russia, to cut off the head of the beast.” “Yes and that certainly worked out well for both Napoleon and Charles. Gentlemen it is the consensus of the Army that we only have reserves for one major attack before the weather makes the conditions impossible. General Von Brauchitsch believes that closing off the Russians in Romania and the Southern Ukraine is more vital. After that we will simply have to go over onto the defensive until we can build up adequate supplies of petrol for our tanks.” President Beck spoke “I appreciate the arguments of the General Staff, and they seem well in accord with my own opinions. A thrust now to Moscow would be a foolish gamble. The front would be to narrow, the weather unpredictable and the time left…No any attack towards Moscow will have to be delayed until next year. But during that year we must build up sufficient reserves to resume the offensive if need be.”
Beck looked down the cabinet. “Now onto other matters. Minister Letterhaus can you update us on the synthetic plants?” Letterhause spoke without notes or hesitation “I have accelerated construction of the fuel plants. Initially work was begun under Herr Todt, and progress was adequate if not immediate. Todt still has nominal charge of the program, as he has yet to be removed under the Chancellor’s program against corruption. He put Albert Speer in charge early last….” “You mean Hitler’s architect?” interrupted the Justice Minister. “Yes, Speer was in charge of architectural projects under the late Chancellor. Todt was quite impressed by his completion of the Chancellor Building and Speers work around the capital. Speer has accelerated production and it seems he will beat our timetable. He hasn’t yet had his clearance hearing, but given his performance I would recommend retaining him. Todt is of course another matter. Under the new labor laws it would…” “We don’t need a review of the new laws Minister. I want to know can the new synthetics meet our needs and how soon.” Interrupted the President. “Well to replace the Romanian fields we need an additional 13 million barrels. Speer promises that he can raise production from 9 to 12 million barrels this year and to 18 million barrels by 1943, that is assuming his program retains priority. But that still leaves us short 9 million barrels this year and 3 million barrels in 43.” “And that Gentlemen is why we must have Romania back.” Concluded Beck

October 4, 1941

Von Schulenburg was enjoying his steak. It was a cool night in Berlin, but not cold and he enjoyed the walk to his café from the office. He even managed not to notice the security detail following him, nor the police quietly guarding the restaurant. He reached into his vest and pulled out his father’s pocket watch. The Chancellor was late, but than he usually was. Von Schulenburg thanked the gods that he didn’t have to clean up the mess. Compared with domestic politics dealing with the English and Americans was child’s play. He finished his mean and motioned the waiter. As the plates were cleared and a bottle of iced champagne set next to the table, the Chancellor arrived. Von Schulenburg stood up and offered his hand “Good to see you Friedrich. I just finished my meal and had them set out some champagne.” “Goerdeler smiled and answered “Don’t tell me you are offering to sell me some Champagne, I thought that was the last Minister?”* Both men chuckled and the Chancllor sat down.
“Its good to get out of the office tonight. You know the work is good, the work is necessary but so much of it…” Von Schulenburg nodded sympathetically “But I came here tonight to hear about your work. I am sorry I couldn’t see you today but like I said” The foreign minister waived him off and shook his head “I know what pressures you under Fredrich. Besides I am a diplomat, how can I resist having a late night drink with my Chancellor and having the opportunity to bill it to the Ministry?” both men chuckled again. The waiter poured each a glass and withdrew. “Lets get the business out of the way. What progress has there been with the English?” Von Schulenburg set down his glass “Very little I am afraid. I think that we had best let the air armistice end and get the undersea boats back out. I need a little more pressure on them and even then…” “Yes,” sighed the Chancellor “I thought as much. No matter what we do it seems that the English simply won’t see reason. I was talking with Beck and the Minister for War today and they both agree on the need to resume attacks on the English.” “There are other avenues I can explore” offered Von Schulenburg “The French seem most anxious to meet and discuss a formal treaty. Also there are some hints from the Norwegians and the Dutch, not the Poles, but we have less to offer them. Why don’t you let me discuss terms with the French? I think they would sign a generous peace. The Free French aren’t that popular. Or better yet why don’t you let me send a note to our embassy in Lisbon saying we are opening talks with the French and possibly some of the Dutch. Maybe the threat of a separate peace will bring them around.” “Good idea. Lets see if that brings them around. But if it doesn’t, then I want you to explore possibilities in the East. Things are going to settle down there for the winter. Perhaps they will listen to a little reason? In any event I want to see some plans for the East soon. Look into re-establishing the Baltic Governments, you may want to coordinate that with feeling out the Russians. Also you can see about the Belorussians and Ukrainians, assuming we get that far.”

*Von Ribbontrop had actually been a involved in the Champagne trade
 
Looks good. The British are going to have a tough time of it if seperate peace deals are made....Im not sure how they can react without hurting themselves. I look foreward to how they can fix their situation, IF its even possible to do so without hurting their interests.
 
Alls Quiet on the Western Front

October 14, 1941 – London, Underground Command Bunker

Alan Booke Chief of the Imperial General Staff continued this briefing. “It is apparent now that the Soviets are badly mismatched in the Ukraine. German Panzer Units have sliced deep into the rear of the 6th, 26th, 12th, 18th and 9th Armies. Chairman Stalin’s “hold fast order” has meant that few if any will escape being pocketed by the advancing Germans. The bulk of the Soviet tank strength was in the 18th and 9th armies which were committed to the Romanian campaign. We expect the Russians will lose between 1,500 and 2,000 of their latest tanks, which should constitute the bulk of these machines.” “What about men?” asked Atlee “We expect that given Stalin’s refusal to pull back the armies involved the Russians will lose between 400,000 and 600,000 men. Those are conservative estimates of course* By mid-November the Germans should be in possession of the Ukrainian basin. The Russians may be able to make a stand at Kiev, but it is more a matter of German logistics supporting their tanks and infantry than the Soviets having much to stop them.” What about the Red Air Force?” asked Air Vice Marshal Baldwin. “Most of it appears to have been destroyed.” replied Brooke “They lost a good deal in the Polish diversionary attacks and quite a few of their planes were destroyed during this last German offensive, either on the ground or in air to air combat. I expect that it won’t be a factor till next year.” “If there is a next year.” Interjected Atlee “Oh I expect the Russians to hang on. They have been pretty roughly handled, but the Germans have pretty much shot their bolt. The Amphibious landings in Estonia and this Romanian encirclement are probably the last effort they can manage this year. Intelligence says they are running very short of fuel. They will be sometime getting the Romanian fields back into production, so the Russians have some time. The German stop line should run from Estonia, through a divided Belorussia, down along the Dnieper River to Odessa. **
Churchill looked glum. “It would appear gentlemen that the Russians have succeeded in drawing the Huns away, and buying us more time. However, what we do with this time is up to us. I can not hide from you my fixed determination to continue this war to the bitter end. The latest entreaties from Lisbon are quite generous. It would appear that the New German government is prepared to offer us significant concession not only in the West but also in Poland.” “What concession Winston?” asked Atlee “The Germans are prepared to relinquish their hold on the free people of Europe, but not completely. They want to retain Alsace-Lorraine from France, for example. They also wish to obtain or regain some of the colonies in Africa. The greatest sticking point is Poland of course. This government went to war to insure Poland’s sovereignty, now are we to allow it to be hacked up like a hog? The word of England is sacred and gentlemen we have given our word!” He glared around the cabinet, then fixed his eyes on Lord Halifax.
“Mr. Prime Minister if I may speak?” Winston reluctantly nodded in the affirmative. “I have returned from America this week and I want to assure you that the events in Germany have had a dramatic impact there. Whereas previously many of my contacts spoke openly of US involvement many now think it will not happen. When Herr Hitler and his gang of thugs was removed there was a substantive shift in American thinking. They are far more focused on the Pacific than the Atlantic. Many I spoke too thought that a negotiated peace between ourselves and the Germans was inevitable and desirable. The significant Irish American community and the German Americans, both of which are important components of Mr. Roosevelt’s government are particularly adamant for negotiations. It is true that currently there are no plans to suspend Lend Lease or other support, but active participation is simply not in the cards. In fact the Russian attack on Germany has garnered significant sympathy inside the US Military and general public for Beck’s government. I fear that if we are expecting more from the Americans than what they are currently giving, we are going to be bitterly disappointed. We stand alone gentlemen, alone.”
Atlee spoke “Well I for one have had significant problems in the house. At first some of the more left-wing members were the problem. Now they are screaming for support of Russia and the moderates are pushing for a peace. While speaking about England’s word is stirring, it won’t hold this coalition government together. I also know Winston that there are significant numbers of Conservatives that want us to negotiate a peace.” Churchill nodded and took a long pull on his cigar. “If the question is called in the house this government may well not stand. There will be some who will say that a negotiated peace where we regain our advantages of 1940 and place the governments-in-exile back in power is a victory. Those governments themselves are wavering. The Poles are resolute, but the Dutch and Norwegians seem more than willing to explore the offers from Lisbon. “
The Foreign Secretary spoke “To emphasize Clements’ point. There is great danger if we do nothing. The rump government in Vichy is being approached by the Germans as we speak. We have for intelligence sources that the German representative to Vichy will offer Petain a comprehensive and generous peace. Further French are apt to take the bargain. They care little for the colonies that Germany wants or wants back, and even Alsace Lorraine is not enough to keep them in the war.” “They are already out of the war” interjected Brooke “The point is” retorted Eden “they want the Germans out of Paris, they want their country back, and they may just be willing to settle for 90% of it, regardless of what the Free French want. We have a window here, and that window is closing. Soon some of the governments will bolt. If I had to guess I think that the Germans will be able to get the Vichy French to sign a permanent peace treaty. If the Germans are generous and honor their pledge to withdraw there will almost irresistible pressure on the governments in exile to also sign a treaty.” He paused for dramatic effect “We have given our word, but we also serve the people of this country. Sometimes there is a point, in a siege and in war, where the most honorable thing to do, the most sensible thing to do is to get terms. I am willing to fight on, but I don’t think the country will support us.”
Churchill looked crestfallen at his Foreign Minister. Then slowly he looked around the room. Most men met his glaze and he could see the defiance in them, but many, too many looked down. He removed his cigar and was silent for almost a minute before he spoke. “I see in your eyes, in some of your eyes, the specter of appeasement and defeat. It is a spirit that I never hoped to see again in these isles. It is my instinct to fight on, to resist the Germans with every fiber of my being.” He paused “But, I can not lead a divided England into this war. We have fought the Hun now for more than two years, and we have fought him to a standstill. I can not believe that you my fellow countrymen would continence surrender. But it appears that some of you would see the Huns terms. Very well. I shall instruct Campbell to accept the German’s latest offer and I shall submit those terms to the house. If the Mother of all Parliaments want to equivocate, to deal with the devil, I shall not stop them. I shall resign.”

October 20, 1941 – London Times

PEACE!

In a shocking development today a divided Parliament voted to accept in principal the proposed terms from the new German government to end the war. While most leadership in the commons opposed the motion a narrow majority comprise of both Conservative and moderate Labor M.Ps voted to accept the proposals from Lisbon….
Clement Atlee stated that with the ending of wartime considerations that he would withdraw from the government upon the signing of a permanent peace...

October 21, 1941

Von Schulenburg had had the best night sleep in months. The news of the English acceptance of terms lightened his step all day. He drafted a careful memo to the Baron in Lisbon outlining what terms were ‘negotiable’ and which the Baron was to hold firm on. He read it over twice then gave it to his secretary. “See that this goes out to Lisbon by coded message today. Then see that tonight’s diplomatic pouch for Lisbon has this set of instructions.” The secretary nodded, slightly confused. After he left Von Schulenburg pushed his chair back from the desk and crossed his arms. The removal of England was critical. If I can see this through then the Russians will have no choice. The Army may be clamoring for and expanded war in Russia, but they will be baying at the moon for all the good it will do them. Just let me get my man to Molotov, I know we can end things in the East too.


*This encirclement is patterned after the Ukrainian battles where somewhere between 300,000 and 500,000 Russians were pocketed. While the Russians are not being pinched from two sides, they are much deeper in (beyond easy logistical withdrawal and are pinned against the Black Sea.
**This is substantially better (for the Russians) than they did in our TL, where all of Belorussia, the Ukraine and Rostov on the Don were the stop lines, plus the Germans had significant lodgments in Russia, approaching Moscow and Leningrad.
 
Very intriguing timeline.

I can't wait to see what Japan does next, that's the most intriguing question.

From what you've written so far, I would think Japan, in this world, may see Strike North to be the more rational (and opprotune) option, especially now that Britain has agreed to peace with Germany (and could therefore devote the entirety of their forces to a war in the far east if they had to.) and the Soviets being in quite the strategic and geopolitical pickle their failed gambit in the Balkans has wrought.

A very compelling read you've given us.

Well done!
 
Yes very enjoyable, like the political intrigues - though not sure that Herdrich would have survived!

Interesting the 'twist' with the coded messages/diplomatic bag!

it is possible, that Churchill may not have been so insistent on carrying on - remembering his comment about his quarrel with the Nazi Party not the German people.

Knowing the German need, the British have a bargaining tool of their own - Oil ! Offer to meet the German shortfall, with oil deliveries, in return for ------ ?
 
This is going well

Britain could make up a lot of her war debt by selling oil to the Germans now, assuming of course that Japan doesn't attack, which would be an even greater folly now Britain is not engaged against Germany.

And after a decent interval Britain could even sell military equipment to the Germans to help them against the 'evil commies' - at a reasonable price of course
 

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By colonies in Africa, I'm guessing the Germans probably mean Libya for the Italians.

I don't see the British transfering control of any of their colonies, though I could see some small French possessions being transfered.

Besides, at this time, the Germans simply don't have the resources to commit a massive force to Africa.

While the Germans may not be as deep into Russia, they do have a big advantage in that their supply lines, while long, are not going to be as overstretched this time around.

One thing that the Germans should consider in making the deal with Britain and the governments in exile look better is simply the pace at which they withdraw their troops. If they where to do so over a year, that could easily be seen as stalling. OTOH, if they could have the bulk of their troops out within say two or three months, that would look much better.

Another thing, might the Germans consider offering a cash or economic settlement to some countries to repay for some damages done during the fighting. I don't know about Britain or France, but if they where to offer say Norway a small amount of say $25 million, that could make a huge difference to help the Norwegian gov't in exile get their country back on track.
 
Very intriguing timeline.

I can't wait to see what Japan does next, that's the most intriguing question.

From what you've written so far, I would think Japan, in this world, may see Strike North to be the more rational (and opprotune) option, especially now that Britain has agreed to peace with Germany (and could therefore devote the entirety of their forces to a war in the far east if they had to.) and the Soviets being in quite the strategic and geopolitical pickle their failed gambit in the Balkans has wrought.

A very compelling read you've given us.

Well done!

Thanks. I plan on shifting more of the focus to the Japan-UK-US aspect of this TL in the future. I am not so sure about a Japanese v. USSR aspect, that will be heavily dependent on how the German-Russian conflict plays out. I have some ideas there that I should begin to post the beginnings of soon.

Overall a British-German peace weakens the Soviets - a little and the Japanese - a lot.

Jay - Gemellus
 
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