The Bulgarian Empire - TL

June 13, 1878. Ambassadors from United Kingdom, Austria-Hungary, France, Germany, Italy, Russia and the Ottoman Empire all meet in Berlin to revise the Treaty of San Stefano.

June 24, 1878. A fight between members gets out of hand, and the German ambassador gets hurt. (POD)

June 25, 1878. All ambassadors from foreign nations are booted from the meeting, and they revert back to the Treaty of San Stefano's terms. This created a Bulgarian state in the Balkans. (LINK TO MAP)

July 3, 1878. Prince Alexander Joseph is crowned Prince of Bulgaria.

14 November, 1885. Serbia, lead by the Austrians to think they were fighting the Turkish, declared war on Bulgaria.

17 November, 1885. The Bulgarians won a decisive victory against the serbs with the help of Russian generals in the Battle of Slivnitsa.
 
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^^ The Russian Generals would still be there because there would be no revolution in Eastern Rumelia, so Bulgaria would not lose Russian support. I know someone would say something, so I posted this.
 
Thing is, there wouldn't be a war. The Serbs were put up to it by Austria, which pretty much owned them between 1882 and 1903 or thereabouts, and while the king may have been ambitious to gain territory, the ordinary Serbian soldiers had no idea what it was all about. IIRC, they had to be told they were going to fight the Turks.

Sorry, but the idea isn't really plausible in general. Bulgaria could be a lot more fortunate in the 19th century, but San Stefano was never going to work. It was basically a truce between two mutually exhausted armies fighting mano-a-mano. As soon as other powers expressed any interest in the settlement, the Russians knew their position was too precarious to bluff.
 
No, Robert Cecil, The British Marquess of Salisbury, the British Foreign Secretary at the Congress. Supported the Russians in the treaty of San Stefano. If he got his way, the treaty would stand.
 
23 November, 1885. The Bulgarians launched a counter-attack against the Serbians at the Battle of Nis.

27 November, 1885. The city of Nis fell to the Bulgarians.

2 December, 1885. Austria-Hungary, in a meeting with the Bulgarian prince Alexander, threatened to attack Bulgaria if military action did not cease. Russian leaders respond by threatening the same to Austria-Hungary. (Alexander was the Tsar's Cousin, and as there was no revolution in Eastern Rumelia= the Russians and Bulgarians were friendly.) The Austrians back off.

7 December, 1885. The treaty of Athens was proposed. It's only conditions were that the land that was taken from Serbia remains in Bulgarian hands and all soldiers must leave newly-taken lands.

10 December, 1885. The treaty of Athens was signed.

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Hang on, so for some reason the San Sterfano some how passes, the Principality of Bulgaria doesn't just utterly collapse on its self, and the Serbs randomly start a war of territorial aggression?
 
I plan to make it collapse later on. I just wanted this to happen first.

Would it be plausible that they loose good relations with Russia, then be hit by a temporary alliance of Serbia, Greece, AH and internal problems?
 
I plan to make it collapse later on. I just wanted this to happen first.

Would it be plausible that they loose good relations with Russia, then be hit by a temporary alliance of Serbia, Greece, AH and internal problems?

The first issue is the treaty itself. San Stefano was unviable, and it had barely any support outside of Bulgaria or maybe Russia. Even under this scenario I doubt they pass the original treaty.
 
I said this earlier

Well then, what is the reason for him getting his way? I wouldn't call British-Russian relations very friendly at the time, mostly due to disputes in Asia and British fears of Russia getting a route to India. So what would make the British support the Russian position unlike they did OTL?
 
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Well then, what is the reason for him getting his way? I wouldn't call British-Russian relations very friendly at the time, mostly due to disputes in Asia and British fears of Russian getting a route to India. So what would make the British support the Russian position unlike they did OTL?

Alright... Fine! Ill find a better PoD and start another timeline.
 
Alright... Fine! Ill find a better PoD and start another timeline.

I don't want to discourage you. :eek: But I think both Russia and the Ottoman Empire knew that the treaty was never really going to be accepted in it's current condition, at least not without some major changes. Which is basically what happened OTL.
 
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