The Brother Rivalry (Rome ATL)

This is an alternate history of Rome, where Romulus and Remus both form separate cities, but on opposite sides of the Tiber River.

753 BC: The twin cities of Rome, and Rema form, by each respective brother, Romulus and Remus. Rema and Rome both take Sabine women, and each respective side of the Sabine (North of Tiber, or South), join each government. The Roman Legions are defined as 450 men and 50 cavalry. The Reman Legion is defined as 475 men, 25 engineers, 100 cavalry. A total of the following Legions are in each military:
Roman: 15 Legions (7,500) Reman: 10 Legions (6,000)
750 BC: Both the Remans and Romans enter the first of many wars called the First Italian War. Remans, quickly secure their border, and start to build a wall to defend themselves called the Wall of the Tiber or in Latin: Moenia e Tiber. The Reman Empire stretches itself along the Tiber, while the Roman Empire heads inland, and the north of the Tiber.
Roman: 22 Legions (11,000) Reman: 13 Legions (7,800)
749 BC: The town of Apa, a border town of the Reman Empire on the Tiber, is taken by Roman forces led by Romulus. Three Reman Legions head out toward Apa, while four Reman Legions build and march upon a bridge in the town of Vitus, where a bridgehead against the Roman Empire is made.
Battle of Apa
Romans: 5 Legions (2,500), Romulus; Remans: 3 Legions (1,800)
Losses: 1,480 dead, 520 wounded, Romulus Wounded; Remans: 920 dead, 280 wounded.
Roman: 18 Legions (9,000), Reman: 12 Legions (7,200)
748 BC: A total of eight Reman Legions, and 14 Roman Legions fight in Rome, as the Remans take the city for the first time in a heavy loss to both sides. Both sides fight in Rome, with 2/3 of the city taken by the Remans.
Battle of Rome
Romans: 14 Legions (7,000) Remans: 8 Legions (4,800)
Losses:3,250 dead, 1,750 dead Losses: 2,620 dead, 680 wounded
Romans: 8 Legions (4,000) Remans: 6.5 Legions (3,900)
747 BC: Reman forces retreat from Rome, to the other side of the Tiber, as a treaty between the two cities is signed after the war. A total of 4,730 Roman Army Troops die, and 2,270 Roman Army Troops are wounded, compared to 3,540 Reman Army Troops dead, and 960 Reman Army Troops wounded.

Interesting start?
 
Needs more fleshing out.

Interesting concept, though.

Why the distinction between the two legions?

That is, what prompts the Reman ones to be larger and with engineers?

On that note, I presume "men" should be read as "infantrymen", since presumably the cavalry and engineers are human...

:D

More seriously, high ratio of dead to wounded here. Wonder if that's realistic...seems off to me.
 
I know, lost all of the work I put on it (3-4 weeks of work), and this is just some stuff, I remembered. So I will add it in short updates, till the end of the 8th Century BC. Eighth Century BC, by the end will be mostly rewritten. It will then be in 50 year updates. I just want people to sort of give me some tips, before I rewrite the whole thing.
 
Needs more fleshing out.

Interesting concept, though.

Why the distinction between the two legions?

That is, what prompts the Reman ones to be larger and with engineers?

On that note, I presume "men" should be read as "infantrymen", since presumably the cavalry and engineers are human...

:D

More seriously, high ratio of dead to wounded here. Wonder if that's realistic...seems off to me.

The distinction, is that to allow to move between the rivers, in case of war, the Legions needed engineers to build stuff. IE: Tiber River Bridge. Also most of the dead, were wounded who died of their injuries.
 
The distinction, is that to allow to move between the rivers, in case of war, the Legions needed engineers to build stuff. IE: Tiber River Bridge. Also most of the dead, were wounded who died of their injuries.

Well, why don't the Roman ones need them?

And makes sense on wounded.
 
Well, why don't the Roman ones need them?

And makes sense on wounded.

Because, one thing I forgot about, when I rewrote this part, he has 3 Engineering Legions, which each have around 75 engineers each, and 425 workers/slaves, who do the building. Also anyone want to give me ideas, and help with the location of Rome on a Map.
 
746 BC: The Moenia e Fluvium Tiberium is completed, with at the thinnest point is at 4 feet, and it's thickest point at 18 point. It stands at 30 feet tall, with two newly formed Legions (1,200) guarding it. The Roman Empire enters a war with the Alba Longa, after the Alban army kills Horatius after he defeated, the Alban triplets. Romulus becomes very weak. The Roman Engineering Legion starts, as a way to beat the Remans in building bridges, and other structures during war time. Remus marries Flavia Remi Titi Claudii. (The Remi Titi Claudii part is Remus's name, as for this TL both empires speak Latin.)
Romans: 11 Legions (5,500), 3 Engineering Legions (1,500) Remans: 10 Legions (6,000)
745 BC: Remus's son Cornelius is born, strong and healthy, and public enthusiasm grows after this, with the knowledge of a successor being born.
Romulus dies after being assassinated. His adopted son Titus takes control, and the military begins to grow under his command, as Alba Longa is completely crushed under the Roman's heel. A port at the mouth of the Tiber begins construction by the Remans know as Flavia, after the king's wife.
Romans: 16 Legions (8,000), 5 Engineering Legions (2,500) Remans: 14 Legions (8,400)
744 BC: A great monument is completed in Rome honoring Romulus, by Titus, as a massive military draft is ordered by him. With the threat of the Romans, Remus institutes a military draft, so up to 20-40 Legions can be operational, in case of war. Prince Cornelius is reported to have killed an assassin, with his bare hands at the age of 1. 6 Legions move out onto the Moenia e Fluvium Tiberium, and the wall begins to be extended, in case of attack. The port city of Flavia.
Romans: 21 Legions (10,500), 8 Engineering Legions (4,000) Remans: 17 Legions (10,200)
743 BC: Titus, launches an attack at Flavia, where an assault of 8 Roman Legions, and 2 Engineering Legions attack, where 5 Reman Legions fight off the Romans, with severe damage to Flavia. The Reman military, begins to grow fast, to fight off the threat.
Battle of Flavia
Romans: 8 Legions (4,000), 2 Engineering Legions (1,000) Remans: 5 Legions (3,000)
Casaulties: 2497 dead, 103 wounded; 1,216 dead, 84 wounded
Romans: 28 Legions (14,000), 7 Engineering Legions (3,500) Remans: 23 Legions (13,800)

Sorry about the small update.
 
I like the idea, but the only objection i will made is instead to settle the two cities on different sides of the Tiber, it will be more interesting to see Rome on the Palatine and Rema on the Aventine...
 
He survived from being killed, and fled across the Tiber, to form his own city. Also, there will still be an Etruscan takeover of Rome, but Rema resists.
 
742 BC: The war continues, as the Moenia e Fluvium Tiberium is partially destroyed near the town of Jacka, where the Remans there easily surrender to the Romans. Remus, forms a new army unit called the Corps. It consists of 1,400 infantry, 700 cavalry-men, 375 engineers, 125 officers, totaling at 2,600 men per each Corps. Titus forms an army unit called the Battalion numbering at 500 infantry, 250 cavalry-men, 125 engineers, and 75 officers, with a total of 950 men.
Romans: 34 Legions (17,000), 12 Engineering Legions (6,000), 5 Battalions (4,750) Remans: 23 Legions (13,800), 3 Corps (7,800)
741 BC: Military commander Julius Vati of the Reman Kingdom leads all 5 Corps, in an attack against Jacka, where 16 Legions, 4 Engineering Legions, and 7 Battalions face off against Julius's forces. Military commander Octavius Ilii of the Romans faces off against his adversary. The battle is a stunning victory for Reman forces, when commander Claudius Julii, leading 8 Legions, helps, with most of the Roman military force, being destroyed.
Battle of Jacka
Romans: 16 Legions (8,000), 4 Engineering Legions (2,000), 7 Battalions (6,650)
Remans: 5 Corps (13,000), 8 Legions (4,800)
Losses:
Romans: 12 Legions (6,000), 4 Engineering Legions (2,000), 4 Battalions (3,800)
Remans: .5 Corp (1,300 dead/wounded), 3 Legions (1,800)
Romans: 22 Legions (11,000), 10 Engineering Legions (5,000), 7 Battalions (6,650) Remans: 24 Legions (12,400), 5 Corps (13,000)
740 BC: Julius Vati is promoted to commander of the Reman Military, and the Remans suffer a massive defeat, when trying to take Rome, with most of the Reman attack forces being destroyed, or killed. Commander Julius Vati manages to destroy the great monument of Romulus, and the bridge being built, before dying by the hands of Titus.
Battle of Rome
Romans: 16 Legions (8,000), 2 Engineering Legions (1,000), 10 Battalions (9,500)
Remans: 14 Legions (8,400), 8 Corps (20,800)
Losses:
Romans: 8 Legions (4,000)
Remans: 12 Legions (7,200), 2 Corps (5,200)
Romans: 18 Legions (9,000), 13 Engineering Legions (6,500), 12 Battalions (11,400) Remans: 16 Legions (9,600), 7 Corps (18,200)
 
Legion warfare was not devised in its most recognizable form until Marius. The Romans, once they had joined into a single city from the 7 villages, used Phalanx tactics.
 
Ah... thanks Immortal, they are going to be somewhat called Legions but use Phalanx formations. It is going to be somewhat hard to modify this though...
 
Ah... thanks Immortal, they are going to be somewhat called Legions but use Phalanx formations. It is going to be somewhat hard to modify this though...

I'd also note that the engineers and all that didn't appear until later. Most early Roman battles consisted of ritual raids and attacks, mainly Hoplite pitched battle. Though the terrain was not the best suited to this, it was adopted and was the Roman system for a while until proto-legion tactics began to evolve.
 
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