So many products of the American school system...ugh
jolo said:
Without independence, Northamerica would probably have developed along Canada and Australia - which means, no more than 30 million people in a much smaller Northamerica by today. Also, Russia might have kept Alaska and expanded to the south of it - not enough people to send West, and who'd buy Alaska, or who might the Russians give it to, if not a small, at that time not threatening, country.
No. The reason the USA became so big and powerful was nothing to do with all this land of the free BS. It was that the USA is located on some of the best real estate going. The only place it could possibly not reach the level it did IOTL is that the British government will keep a bit of control over the colonials urge to go slaughter the natives.
Also, GB liked to keep their colonies down technologically, to avoid them splitting up and becoming competitors, and to make sure that goods were produced mostly in GB in return for ressources (other colonial powers were even worse in developing their colonies, though). Egypt and India are examples for that, while Canada and Australia played a different role - Canada could not be kept underdeveloped because of the US, and Australia was too far away for supporting it from GB and militarily too weak to be defendable without an independent industrial base. Furthermore, their people knew GB too well to be easily kept away from developing.
No we didn't....That is really wrong. Throughout the 19th century British engineers and industrialists were all around the empire (formal and informal) developing industry and rail links
Without US independence, the Ressource of all North American colonies would mainly be transported to GB, half of them would be returned to the US as manufactured goods for the same price, and development would be pretty slow. Then come the evil huns and destroy all that shipping with their uboats, leaving an isle with a lot of unused factories and 30% of the world as an empire with a lot of ressources, but no way for them to come together before the war ends.
...STOP THE STUPID CONVERGANT AH.
I don't mind silly oppinions on how the British empire was evil so much though this insistance that everything will work out exactly the same outside of the western hemisphere...Its just dumb.
IOTL the resources of the north american colonies were transported to GB and sold back anyway even post American revolution. With the US part of the official British empire rather then the informal empire it would develop far quicker.
I love indeed the state of former British colonies: South Africa and its apartheid regime - what an enlightenment, and such a good man as Mugabe at the head of Zimbabwe, and wasn't Amin Dada such a wonderful leader for Uganda?
You really need to do some reading there.
Zimbabwe- The reason it developed into such a shit hole was the white settlers declared independance when Britain refused to grant them it as they refused gave equal representation to blacks
South Africa- Pre Britain the Africans were slaves. When Britain moved in the Africans gained equal rights and earned some quite good positions (I remember a chief judge or something of the sort). When South Africa became a domminion the boers gradually forced the blacks into being 2nd class citizens against heavy protests from developed nations chief among them being- Britain.
Idi Amin- That was Britain how? By mentioing him you are showing how Britain was good for Africa.
The Gambia-Yup we did good. One of the longest lasting democracies in Africa until a coup in the early 90s.
Malawi- Yeah all Britains fault. Nothing to do with a totalitarian regime and aids.
And Britain always showed such respect for native cultures and really helped in the development of those populations, be it in America or with the aborigens in Australia.
...Britain are hardly to blaim for anything in the Americas. Canada has been pretty good with its natives. As were the more southerly colonies until they were no longer Britain.
Australia- They haven't come off that bad considering. They were really going to suffer no matter which Europeans first contacted them, they were lucky they got us and not the French. At least we attempted to help.
I notice you miss out the maori here too...
Nepal is an island of peacefulness on the Indian sub-continent, just as the former Palestine in the Middle-East. Saudi Arabia, Iraq, such examples of social advancement and modernity in the Muslim world.
Palestine- We had it for what. Not even 3 decades.
Saudi Arabia- That was never part of the empire.
Iraq- It was one of the better nations in the region until Sadaam went nuts. It wasn't British for long either though. Better here is to look at Kuwait.
Yes, what a great heritage was left by the British Empire!
I agree with you here. It did leave a great legacy. Best. Empire. Ever.
