The Biden Express: Derailed
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Thanks! I'm out of practice
In this TL he did already work at the AgDept and had his own agriculture business. He worked on the Biden re-election campaign in a minor roll but in some chance meetings he impressed one or two transition staff people and got noticed. But mostly I wanted to have him in there as an easter egg
Election night was not given the coverage no, but here is the electoral map. I mostly really wanted to wrap up the lose ends since this was so close to being completed.
And, yes, perhaps that Kennedy isn't an ideal choice
Glad to see this back
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Finally! It's been too long. FYI, you need to add a +1 next to Tom Harkin and change his color to red, since he's returning to the Senate.
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And, yes, perhaps that Kennedy isn't an ideal choice
Eh, this isn't a utopia, so some parts of the Biden administration aren't going to perfect.
And thinking about it more, the paper that started the "vaccine-autism" connection was published in 1998. It's most likely butterflied away, and thus, Kennedy doesn't advocate it.
Will there be a list of legislation passed under the Thornburgh Administration, just as there was under the first Biden Administration? Also, after Chiles death, perhaps Patricia Schroeder is elevated to the Vice Presidency, while Mario Cuomo takes her spot as Chairperson of the Cabinet. Any thoughts on that?
Hey Guys. I took the template that Jay Roosevelt uses to list the Senators in his TL's and made a list of Senators as of January 1997 ITTL.
ALABAMA:
Richard Shelby (D)
Jeff Sessions (R)
ALASKA:
Ted Stevens (R)
Frank Murkowski (R)
ARIZONA:
John McCain (R)
Jon Kyl (R)
ARKANSAS:
David Pryor (D)
Hillary Rodham Clinton (D)
CALIFORNIA:
Pete Wilson (R)
Barbara Boxer (D)
COLORADO:
Tim Wirth (D)
Federico Peña (D)
CONNECTICUT:
Lowell Weicker (R)
Chris Dodd (D)
DELAWARE:
William Roth (R)
Valerie Biden Owens (D)
FLORIDA:
Bob Graham (D)
Buddy McKay (D)
GEORGIA:
Bob Barr (R)
Max Cleland (D)
HAWAII:
Daniel Inouye (D)
Daniel Akaka (D)
IDAHO:
Larry Craig (R)
Dirk Kempthorne (R)
ILLINOIS:
Dick Durbin (D)
Roland Burris (D)
INDIANA:
Richard Lugar (R)
Dan Quayle (R)
IOWA:
Chuck Grassley (R)
Tom Harkin (D)
KANSAS:
Sam Brownback (R)
Pat Roberts (R)
KENTUCKY:
Wendell Ford (D)
Mitch McConnell (R)
LOUISIANA:
John Breaux (D)
Ben Bagert (R)
MAINE:
Olympia Snowe (R)
Joseph E. Brennan (D)
MARYLAND:
Paul Sarbanes (D)
Barbara Mikulski (D)
MASSACHUSETTS:
Ted Kennedy (D)
John Kerry (D)
MICHIGAN:
Carl Levin (D)
Spencer Abraham (R)
MINNESOTA:
Skip Humphrey (D)
John Marty (D)
MISSISSIPPI:
Thad Cochran (R)
Trent Lott (R)
MISSOURI:
Kit Bond (R)
John Ashcroft (R)
MONTANA:
Max Baucus (D)
Ron Marlenee (R)
NEBRASKA:
Bob Kerrey (D)
Ben Nelson (D)
NEVADA:
Harry Reid (D)
Richard Bryan (D)
NEW HAMPSHIRE:
Judd Gregg (R)
Richard Swett (D)
NEW JERSEY:
Frank Lautenberg (D)
Christine Todd Whitman (R)
NEW MEXICO:
Pete Domenici (R)
Jeff Bingaman (D)
NEW YORK:
Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D)
Caroline Kennedy (D)
NORTH CAROLINA:
Jesse Helms (R)
Lauch Faircloth (R)
NORTH DAKOTA:
Byron Dorgan (D)
Kent Conrad (D)
OHIO:
Greg Lashutka (R)
John Kasich (R)
OKLAHOMA:
Don Nickles (R)
Jim Inhofe (R)
OREGON:
Les AuCoin (D)
Ron Wyden (D)
PENNSYLVANIA:
Arlen Specter (R)
Harris Wofford (D)
RHODE ISLAND:
John Chafee (R)
Claudine Schneider (R)
SOUTH CAROLINA:
Strom Thurmond (R)
Ernest Hollings (D)
SOUTH DAKOTA:
Tom Daschle (D)
Tim Johnson (D)
TENNESSEE:
Al Gore (D)
Fred Dalton Thompson (R)
TEXAS:
Phil Gramm (R)
Ann Richards (D)
UTAH:
Orin Hatch (R)
Robert Bennett (R)
VERMONT:
Patrick Leahy (D)
Jim Jeffords (R)
VIRGINIA:
John Warner (R)
Chuck Robb (D)
WASHINGTON:
Patty Murray (D)
Mike Lowry (D)
WEST VIRGINIA:
Robert Byrd (D)
Jay Rockefeller (D)
WISCONSIN:
Bob Kasten (R)
Herbert Kohl (D)
WYOMING:
Alan Simpson (R)
Craig Thomas (R)
ALABAMA:
Richard Shelby (D)
Jeff Sessions (R)
ALASKA:
Ted Stevens (R)
Frank Murkowski (R)
ARIZONA:
John McCain (R)
Jon Kyl (R)
ARKANSAS:
David Pryor (D)
Hillary Rodham Clinton (D)
CALIFORNIA:
Pete Wilson (R)
Barbara Boxer (D)
COLORADO:
Tim Wirth (D)
Federico Peña (D)
CONNECTICUT:
Lowell Weicker (R)
Chris Dodd (D)
DELAWARE:
William Roth (R)
Valerie Biden Owens (D)
FLORIDA:
Bob Graham (D)
Buddy McKay (D)
GEORGIA:
Bob Barr (R)
Max Cleland (D)
HAWAII:
Daniel Inouye (D)
Daniel Akaka (D)
IDAHO:
Larry Craig (R)
Dirk Kempthorne (R)
ILLINOIS:
Dick Durbin (D)
Roland Burris (D)
INDIANA:
Richard Lugar (R)
Dan Quayle (R)
IOWA:
Chuck Grassley (R)
Tom Harkin (D)
KANSAS:
Sam Brownback (R)
Pat Roberts (R)
KENTUCKY:
Wendell Ford (D)
Mitch McConnell (R)
LOUISIANA:
John Breaux (D)
Ben Bagert (R)
MAINE:
Olympia Snowe (R)
Joseph E. Brennan (D)
MARYLAND:
Paul Sarbanes (D)
Barbara Mikulski (D)
MASSACHUSETTS:
Ted Kennedy (D)
John Kerry (D)
MICHIGAN:
Carl Levin (D)
Spencer Abraham (R)
MINNESOTA:
Skip Humphrey (D)
John Marty (D)
MISSISSIPPI:
Thad Cochran (R)
Trent Lott (R)
MISSOURI:
Kit Bond (R)
John Ashcroft (R)
MONTANA:
Max Baucus (D)
Ron Marlenee (R)
NEBRASKA:
Bob Kerrey (D)
Ben Nelson (D)
NEVADA:
Harry Reid (D)
Richard Bryan (D)
NEW HAMPSHIRE:
Judd Gregg (R)
Richard Swett (D)
NEW JERSEY:
Frank Lautenberg (D)
Christine Todd Whitman (R)
NEW MEXICO:
Pete Domenici (R)
Jeff Bingaman (D)
NEW YORK:
Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D)
Caroline Kennedy (D)
NORTH CAROLINA:
Jesse Helms (R)
Lauch Faircloth (R)
NORTH DAKOTA:
Byron Dorgan (D)
Kent Conrad (D)
OHIO:
Greg Lashutka (R)
John Kasich (R)
OKLAHOMA:
Don Nickles (R)
Jim Inhofe (R)
OREGON:
Les AuCoin (D)
Ron Wyden (D)
PENNSYLVANIA:
Arlen Specter (R)
Harris Wofford (D)
RHODE ISLAND:
John Chafee (R)
Claudine Schneider (R)
SOUTH CAROLINA:
Strom Thurmond (R)
Ernest Hollings (D)
SOUTH DAKOTA:
Tom Daschle (D)
Tim Johnson (D)
TENNESSEE:
Al Gore (D)
Fred Dalton Thompson (R)
TEXAS:
Phil Gramm (R)
Ann Richards (D)
UTAH:
Orin Hatch (R)
Robert Bennett (R)
VERMONT:
Patrick Leahy (D)
Jim Jeffords (R)
VIRGINIA:
John Warner (R)
Chuck Robb (D)
WASHINGTON:
Patty Murray (D)
Mike Lowry (D)
WEST VIRGINIA:
Robert Byrd (D)
Jay Rockefeller (D)
WISCONSIN:
Bob Kasten (R)
Herbert Kohl (D)
WYOMING:
Alan Simpson (R)
Craig Thomas (R)
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To be perfectly honest, this is what happens when you make an off-the-cuff update on a TL over several years after your main notes were lost. I'm not exactly sure what the make up would be, sorry about that.
Let's just handwave it all and say Greg Lashutka and John Kasich from Ohio (Mike DeWine is Governor), and Pat Roberts in Kansas.
Let's just handwave it all and say Greg Lashutka and John Kasich from Ohio (Mike DeWine is Governor), and Pat Roberts in Kansas.
Edited. The final vote count: 53-47 Dem Majority. Or 52-48 if you replace Pryor with Huckabee in Arkansas.
Are you gonna update this again soon? Would love to see what's going on. Especially since things IOTL aren't looking too good.
I've just hopped aboard the train.Gaining Momentum
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September 11, 2001
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“Can you believe it?”
“Huh?”
“I said, can you believe it?” Jill Biden repeated the question to her husband. Former President Joe Biden was completely distracted by what he saw on the television.
With no response, Jill finished her thought, “It’s like something out of a movie, isn’t it?”
“Yeah, unbelievable.” It truly was like watching a movie. When he was President, Joe Biden thought about what this may look like, he may have even had been one of the catalysts, but it was still strange to see.
Millions of people, likely billions, were watching…
“Russians on the moon… what a world.”
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1993
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Chairman of the Cabinet was never a position James Baker had aspired for, because it had never existed until a few months ago. But he accepted it openly when President-elect Thornburgh offered him the job, seeing an opportunity to craft the new post into something real, something concrete. When Baker shared his goals, his aspirations with Thornburgh, the former Governor saw the same foreign policy potential. A “Second Marshall Plan” was the concept. Baker preferred thinking of it as the “Baker Plan”.
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The whole day had been a blur, despite President Dick Thornburgh’s attempt to savor every moment of it. but when he stepped through the doorway into the Oval Office, time ceased for a bit. He walked over the Resolute Desk and opened the envelop sitting on top of it.
“Mr. President,
“As is tradition, this is my letter of advice from one office holder to the next. I trust your intentions are good, and my only advice is that nothing can prepare you for your time at this desk, in this room, in this house. Heavy lays the crown of the people, but that is not the true weight of this office. History will be the final judge of our service, and that must be considered with every decision you make.
“This job can get lonely, don’t hesitate to call.
“ – Joe
P.S. – don’t forget to enjoy it.”
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“President Thornburgh signed the North American Free Trade Agreement today at the White House, as protestors demonstrated outside, saying it would export American jobs. The White House says that the agreement will strengthen our ties with our neighbors, and make goods more affordable to the public.”
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“General Colin Powell announced today that he would be retiring as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and from active duty with the Army, citing wanting to spend time with his family “and needing a break from public life.” Inside sources report that General Powell’s relations with the Thornburgh White House were “frosty,” which may have also played a role in his decision to resign.
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March 15, 2014
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“We go live to Richard Engle who is in Kiev.”
“The streets are full of people chanting and waving flags. I can barely hear myself over the noise. All traffic has been blocked and security forces are keeping a perimeter, but staying a safe distance from the crowd, with many police actually joining the throngs of people as well.”
“What is the mood of the demonstrations?”
“The people are ecstatic, jubilant even, about Yulia Tymoshenko’s election as President of the Sovereign Union. In a partnership long dominated by Russia, Tymoshenko has been hailed as a leader for the forgotten classes of the Union, not only in the Ukrainian Republic but in the other smaller republics, and in Russia itself. Her campaign message of change and hope truly resonated with the people. Twenty years after Gorbachev’s election under the new constitution, sovereignites are more optimistic than ever about their country’s future.”
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AH.com
“What if Biden didn’t run again?”
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1993
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Lee Atwater enjoyed being back in D.C.. Chairman of the RNC was a good title to have.
Hop off. This one has long since run out of fuel.
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