the best movies never made

Like these Nick! I do have two questions re OLIVER-

First, since IOTL talkies didn't come in until
roughly the end of the 20's, am I correct
in assuming it's a silent?
Second, since IOTL the first Oscars were not
handed out until 1928, am I correct therefore in also assuming in your ATL the
Oscars were started earlier?

Its a talkie, and the Oscars started earlier. In this TL, King Oliver I can be directly attributed to the first building block of the one world government, and therefore we saw less conflict and more advancement n technology! Makes for a whole epic saga!
 

Archibald

Banned
I hate that book. For me, it's the absolute confirmation of the insanity of the "get to Mars" mania: the complete destruction of the space program, so that a man can walk on Mars. Utterly pointless.
the insanity of the "get to Mars" the way Apollo went to the Moon

fixed that for you. surely Baxter hated Apollo as "too little, too small, and for the wrong reasons"

I always considered what an adaptation of Voyage might involve. I've considered a television adaptation.

I once thought the same, then decided to go the opposite way. I tried to reason like an hollywood producer hence
a) I cut all the boring crap the public wouldn't understand
and
b) I rewrote the characters to make them more likeable with a simpler love story

From the novel I cut
- all the politics, except for Nixon and JFK
- most of the geology (geology is boring to the layman public)
- NASA post-Apollo hangover and political machinations (boring) so no Fred Michaels and tim Josephson and Bert Seger
- Moonlab (because it was a distraction to the main story)
- Viktorenko and the soviets (I used them differently)
- Mike Conlig
- Joe Muldoon / Buzz Aldrin post-Apollo drift and hangover (not very kind to Buzz)
- Most importantly, I made Natalie York a far more likeable character
- I changed her astronaut lover from Ben Priest to Jim Dana to get the love story directly linked to the main plot (Venus gravitary assistance vs NERVA)

More generally, I cut the number of characters, made them more recognizable, and got a better love story (because Titanic teached us the love story is important).
 
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King Thomas

Banned
The Conqueror

Blockbuster about Duke William OF Normandy and the Battle of Hastings

The King and I

Film about the escape of King Charles II after the Battle of Worchester
 
Good Will Hunting (1998)
Oscar winning world war 2 drama, following the story of a group US soldiers charged with finding and bringing home Private William Hunting from the battlefields of Normandy. Starring Matt Damon and Tom Hanks.

Friends. (1993)

Edge of seat thriller examines the lives of 6 friends whose lives unfold and turn to violence and cannibalism after they crash their small plane and become stranded in the Rocky Mountains. Based on a true story. Starring Jennifer Aniston, Courteney Cox, Lisa Kudrow, Matt LeBlanc, Matthew Perry and David Schwimmer.

Four Weddings and a Funeral (2006)
Biopic true story drama following the career and love life of Frank Sinatra.

E.T. The Extraterrestrial (1982)
Cult horror movie, starring Sigourney Weaver as she battles in space with a ruthless 'killing machine' being from another world.

Alien (1979)
Memorable family feel good film that explores the friendship between a small lonely boy and a stranded alien.

Aliens (1983)
The unsuccessful, but mildly amusing sequel to Alien, sees 'Alien' and his family return to Earth to visit a grown up Elliot.

Freddy got Fingered (1972)
The follow up drama/documentary to 'Fanny by Gaslight', tracing the explosion in gay porn that swept Victorian England, and then the world, in the late 1800s.
 
Down with Love
A story about a mass murderer (Renee Zellweger) who kills every man she has ever fallen in love with.

Casanova
Sienna Miller buys a new house unimaginatively titled "CasaNova." She finds out that it is possessed by the ghost of Heath Ledger.
 
Down with Love
A story about a mass murderer (Renee Zellweger) who kills every man she has ever fallen in love with.

Casanova
Sienna Miller buys a new house unimaginatively titled "CasaNova." She finds out that it is possessed by the ghost of Heath Ledger.

Like the plot of DOWN WITH LOVE but I
have reservations about Rene Zellweger in
the main role. I think you need a real FEMME FATALE type here & Ms. Zellweger
just doesn't strike me as one. How about
Charlize Theron instead?
 
Like the plot of DOWN WITH LOVE but I
have reservations about Rene Zellweger in
the main role. I think you need a real FEMME FATALE type here & Ms. Zellweger
just doesn't strike me as one. How about
Charlize Theron instead?

She wouldn't look as good slitting Ewan McGregor's throat while he sings as Zellweger would.
 

King Thomas

Banned
The Day After Tomorrow-A program shown on the 23rd of December about the history of Christmas Day.
The Poseidon Adventure-B movie about a fight between the Greek gods, panned by the critics.
Tower Heist-A movie about Colonel Blood's attempt to steal the Crown Jewels
Empire of the Sun-A documentary about the Sun newspaper and it's influence in the UK.
Big Trouble In Little China-Film about a family's escape from the 1955 invasion of Taiwan by China.
The Frighteners-A documentary about the Remoaners who fear what happens when the UK leaves the E.U.
 
View from the Top
Goop is a hobo who lives on top of Mark Ruffalo's roof.

George Clooney starred as Goop, with Rene
Zellweger playing the TV reporter who falls
in love with him. Also featuring: Matt Damon
as Mark Ruffalo's best friend. Robert Downey Jr makes a brief appearance.
 
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RE ALIENs(1983): it starred David Faustino as the now grown-up Elliott, & Julia Louise-Dreyfus as
his wife. Dan Ackoryd played a nosy neighbor who's convinced there's lots & LOTS of $ to be made
with the E.T.

This is in response to Nick NWO's post above.
 
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RE ALIENs(1983): it starred David Faustino as the now grown-up Elliott, & Julia Louise-Dreyfus as
his wife. Dan Ackoryd played a nosy neighbor who's convinced there's lots & LOTS of $ to be made
with the E.T.
The E.T. is not called E.T. though it is simply the Alien in this TL.
 
The Great Dictator (1940)
Classic and controversial black and white comedy, starring Groucho Marx, as a fictitious German dictator set in the 1930s. The film proved to be controversial in Germany itself, where it was banned for a while, when the similarities between the former Nazi party and its former leader, Adolf Hitler, became apparent. Chancellor Otto Wells, shortly before his death that same year, ridiculed the film for supposing that there would ever be a scenario where the German people would have allowed such a man to take power.

Basic Instinct (2016)
Dark and controversial drama that explores the developing homosexual relationships between 4 teenage friends, 2 male and 2 female. The film, which was acclaimed at the Montreal festival, and was received well across Europe, remains banned in the UK, in breach of the "Protection of the Family Act 1999."

Rocky Horror Picture Show (2009)
Spoof documentary charting the rise and fall of the Rocky films. (1 - 1976, 2 - 1979, 3 - 1982, 4- 1985, 5 - 1990, 6 - 1992, 7 - 1995, 8 - 1997, 9 - 1999, 10 - 2002, 11- 2004, 12 - 2007) The films were regarded as going down hill from the early 1990s, and were generally mocked and ridiculed by the 11th and 12th installment, as stunt body doubles were used for over 65% of the film shots of Stallone.

The Ring (1982)
Huge box office hit that took a present-day look at the extraordinary star status in the sporting word by Mohamed Ali. Centered primary around his last fight in 1981, and including real film footage, the film also included flashbacks to his earlier career.

The Fellowship of the Ring (1986)
Second in the Mohamed Ali installments charts the early career and rise to prominence of the charismatic boxer n the 1960s and 1970s. The film famously includes a cameo appearance from Ali, as the grocer shop owner.

The Lord of the Rings (1990)
The Third installment again proved to be huge success, as the Ali legend continued with a biopic of the boxers younger days, exploring his relationship with his parents and the wider issues of racism and prejudice he encountered as a young man. Ali appeared in the film, paying his own grand father, but was controversially panned by critics for his performance.
 

King Thomas

Banned
The Devil wears Prada-(2025) Documentary about one of the most unpopular Prime Ministers of recent times, Thresa May, disliked after Brexit turned out to be an economic disaster.
Dracula-Film about the life of the original Vlad Dracula and his battles against the Ottoman Turks.
The Quiet Man-Documentary about Ian Duncan Smith
Thunderball-Documentary about ball lightning
Pale Rider-Film about an undercover FBI agent who infiltrated the Ku Klux Klan.Based on a true story.
Hornblower-Documentary about whistleblowers.
The Green Mile-Documentary about the Vasco Da Gama national park in Bolivia,only a mile long but internationally renowned for it's well protected wildlife.
Blue Bloods-Blaxploitation gangster film about some Crips who infiltrate the Bloods gang and then massacre it's members.
The Core-Film about undercover police officers who penetrate the Core of a Mafia family.
Gunpowder-Documentary about the history of fireworks.
 
Re PALE RIDER in King Thomas' post above:
Brad Pitt played the FBI agent with Angelina
Jolie as his partner. This turning of what many thought should have been a serious
look @ hate groups into a Pitt- Jolie vehicle
drew widespread criticism but the film did
well @ the box office &- to the surprise of
many- won Pitt the Oscar for Best Actor.
 
The return of the king - WWII semi historical movie, centered on the return of the King of Norway to Oslo.


Starring Anthony Hopkins as the King, Cate
Blanchett as his wife the Queen, Bryan
Cranston as the American general whose
troops helped the king regain his throne(in
real life they had nothing to do with it but
hey, this is Hollywood)& Tom Hiddleston as
the shifty, can't-trust-him-as-far-as-you-can-
throw-him traitor Quisling.
 
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