the best movies never made

IRON CHEF

Tony Stark wasn't just an egocentric billionaire playboy, a former weapons dealer or the CEO of a multinational company, but also an amateur chef extraordinaire. No wonder he decided to cope with his PTSD by moonlighting as an armored vigilante wielding kitchen-themed equipment. :D
 

Driftless

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The Strangest Battle - 2004

A Hollywood retelling of the real life "Strangest Battle of World War 2", based on the events of the Battle for Schloss Itter in closing days of the war.

The (real) battle pitted elements of an American tank company, Wehrmacht troops, Austrian anti-nazi resistance fighters, and French VIP prisoners-of-war on one side against the SS in a series of fire fights. The French VIP's included: 2 former Prime Ministers, 2 former Commanders-in-chief of the French Army, Gen de Gaulle's older sister, and other key political figures.

Captain Jack Lee - Matt Damon
Hauptman Josef Gangl - Michael Fassbender
Hauptsturmfuhrer Sebastian Wimmer - Cristoph Walz
Edouard Daladier - Jean Reno
Paul Reynaud - Daniel Auteuil
Maxime Weygand - Jean Rochefort
Maurice Gamelin - Jean Pierr Cassel
Marie-Agnes Cailliau - Nathalie Baye

*edit* someone else had raised this "truth-is-stranger-than-fiction" item a couple of weeks ago on the forum, but I can't find who that was.
 
The Strangest Battle - 2004

A Hollywood retelling of the real life "Strangest Battle of World War 2", based on the events of the Battle for Schloss Itter in closing days of the war.

The (real) battle pitted elements of an American tank company, Wehrmacht troops, Austrian anti-nazi resistance fighters, and French VIP prisoners-of-war on one side against the SS in a series of fire fights. The French VIP's included: 2 former Prime Ministers, 2 former Commanders-in-chief of the French Army, Gen de Gaulle's older sister, and other key political figures.

Captain Jack Lee - Matt Damon
Hauptman Josef Gangl - Michael Fassbender
Hauptsturmfuhrer Sebastian Wimmer - Cristoph Walz
Edouard Daladier - Jean Reno
Paul Reynaud - Daniel Auteuil
Maxime Weygand - Jean Rochefort
Maurice Gamelin - Jean Pierr Cassel
Marie-Agnes Cailliau - Nathalie Baye

*edit* someone else had raised this "truth-is-stranger-than-fiction" item a couple of weeks ago on the forum, but I can't find who that was.

I posted something about this on an Article on the BBC website a few weeks back

This should be a film that is made
 
SPECIES

Docu-fiction about the history of an alternate Earth where evolution has gifted women with absolute control of their reproductive organs, to point of allowing for a pregnancy only if they truly wanted to have children with a particular man, or to have them at all.
 
SPECIES

Docu-fiction about the history of an alternate Earth where evolution has gifted women with absolute control of their reproductive organs, to point of allowing for a pregnancy only if they truly wanted to have children with a particular man, or to have them at all.

Interesting premise, to say the least.
 
In my eyes the best movie, never made was:
1997 - Titanic - British war film with action elements.

Joint directed by Anthony Minghella and James Cameron, this film is a dramatic retelling of the White Star Line, which after it's maiden voyage in 1912, two year later has be requisitioned into the British Navy to help fight in The Great War.
Revolving around the main battle between HMS Titanic and SMS Kaiser, it shows how the British navy were still kind to help the survivers of the sinking Kaiser.
HMS Titanic, would later be used as the meeting point between King George V and Kaiser Wilhelm III

Jim Broadbent as Admiral John Jellicoe, 1st Earl Jellicoe
Tom Wilkinson as Captain Albert Johnson
Sam Neill as Lieutenant Thomas Daniels
Gerard Butler as Private James "Jim" Chapman
Orlando Bloom as Private Kenneth "Ken" Turner
Michael Cane as George V

Geoffrey Rush as Captain Nicholas Feldmann, of the SMS Kaiser
Jude Law as Lieutenant Albert von Leipzig
Ralph Fiennes as Kaiser Wilhelm III
 
God bless America (1977)

Confederate Second Great War epic about the fall of "Presbyterian Butcher" Gordon McSweeney and his patriotist regime, culminating in the Confederate capture of Philadelphia and Cleveland and the superbombing of Pittsburgh. Featuring Samuel L. Jackson as Cassius Madison, Warren Oates as General Jake Featherston, Clint Eastwood as Clarence Potter, and Ernest Borgnine as Gordon McSweeney. The film received mixed reviews on both sides of the Mason-Dixon Line; In the confederacy, some saw it as "a reminder that them Damnyankees sorely need" while others saw it as overbearing; in the US, some saw it as "pointing out an ugly truth that we must never forget", others considered it to be excessively preachy. It didn't help that the opening scene saw soldiers under Featherston's command forcing residents of a town to tour a Redemption League camp.
 
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ThePest179

Banned
God bless America (1977)

Gives me a couter-idea.

Thin Red Line (1991)

Thin Red Line is a movie set during the Second Great War during the five month Battle of Pittsburgh. The movie follows a platoon of American soldiers who are assigned to hold the city at all costs and "don't go one step back". The film portrays realistic combat scenes and vivid psycological horror as the platoon struggles to survive during the battle, and explores the dehumanizing effect war has on people.
 

King Thomas

Banned
Thin Red Line

A movie about the Battle of Rorke's drift, with Mel Gibson as Lieutenant Chard and Liam Neason as Lieutenant Bromhead. The critics said it was nowhere near as good as the film Zulu, but praised the action scenes.
 

ThePest179

Banned
Here's a couple I thought of for the Anglo/American-Nazi War:

Ready for the Fatherland (1953)
Ready for the Fatherland is one of the most infamous movies in film history. The movie follows Hans-Ulrich Rudel, an 18 year old, as he joins the Waffen-SS and is sent to Russia to "pacify" occupied territory. Hans becomes a war hero after many exploits (among them discovering and murdering several 'Jewish terrorists' and preventing their plans to bomb a German cinema) and saving a wounded squadmate during a ferocious firefight. The film ends as Hans is welcomed back home as a hero. The film was well-received in Nazi Germany, and (with good reason) hated virtually everywhere else. It has often been compared to Birth of a Nation and Triumph of the Will due to its heavy handed propaganda.

The Phantom Tolbukhin (1998)
The Phantom Tolbukhin follows guerilla leader Fedor Tolbukhin, "The Phantom", as he leads his troops in a desperate struggle against the Nazis in Ukraine, 1947. In the film, "The Phantom" and his troops attack the Nazis directly (ambushes, hit and run attacks) and indirectly (setting up traps, stealing munitions and food, sabotaging transportation). Tolbukhin himself is portrayed as a kind but firm man who simply wants to go home and start a new life after the Nazis are pushed out of Russia and the rest of the Soviet Union. Tolbukhin's character is affected by the war and the cruelty of the Nazis in several ways, for instance at one pint he orders his men to kill German colonists, with the justification that the Nazis have done no better and "this is our home, not theirs". At the movie's climax, Tolbukhin's partisans start a riot against the Nazis, but the movie ends on a sad note as the uprising is crushed and many of Tolbukhin's partisans are killed, along with the town and all the surrounding villages. Tolbukhin falls into depression and commits suicide as he considers himself a failure who did nothing to help defeat the Nazis. The film is based on Soviet partisan Nikita Khrushchev's efforts in Ukraine and the Donbass Uprising. The film was also critically acclaimed, and is frequently cited as one of the best movies in film history.

Credit goes to TB for the titles and partial inspiration for the plots.
 
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Decided to dig up this one I did for this thread: https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=350470
Basically, it is from a story I'm working on about a Japanese victory in World War II. These are for a fun segment I will do in between story segments called "Eiga ni Ikimasu!"
-"Ieyasu": a biopic of Tokugawa Ieyasu, written by Yukio Mishima, and directed by Akira Kurosawa. It follows his rise to power, from a minor Samurai, to one of the greatest leaders of Japan, under the guidance of Oda Nobunga. Whilst an innovative and beautifully shot film, it is also propaganda. It is a heavily rewritten version of the Tokugawa, portraying him as a patriot who valiantly united the various clans into one Japanese nation, using discipline and honor. They also heavily glorify the samurai culture, portraying the daimyos as greedy, unpatriotic warlords who deserved death, and leaves out that he was the one who isolated Japan for several centuries (and that the current government overthrew his dynasty to come to power). The Dutch and Portuguese traders are portrayed as conniving and sinister, working to colonize Japan for Europe (a jab at the Nazi allied governments currently in power in those countries). His reign as Shogunate is almost unmentioned. Stars Toshiro Mifune as Ieyasu (I see the resemblance), and Takashi Shimuda as Oba Nobunga
- "Romance amongst the Stars": An Anime feature, written by Osamu Tezuka and Tatsuo Yoshida. Deals with a noble pilot in the "Space Force" of the "Greater Intergalactic Co-Prosperity Sphere," and his multi-ethnic team, as they undertake a daring mission to stop a project by Itsudo (an anagram of Doitsu, the Japanese word for Germany), the technologically superior enemies of the GICP, to create an energy weapon that could destroy the Empire. They are opposed by G, the eye-patched, blonde haired, blue eyed leader of the project. They infiltrate Itsudo, but are compromised, and the team is captured. Only the pilot (who has a Japanese name) escapes, and ends up on a meteor. He considers surrendering, but realizes that a true soldier doesn't surrender, and goes to rescue his team. He rescues them, kills G, and destroys the project. However, he only destroyed the project and the leaders of Itsudo. The successor leaders of Itsudo decide to make peace with the GICP, and become part of them. Whilst heavily anti-German, and very nationalistic, (there is a line that "peace is only attainable through order and national pride), there are also pacifistic undertones and subtle jabs against the Japanese government. There is a scene early on, where the leaders of the Space Force advocate attacking Itsudo, despite Itsudo having more than enough man power to destroy the GICP (an attack directed at several Japanese generals who advocated bombing the Greater German Reich despite their technological disadvantage). There is a sympathetic portrayal of the Itsudo civilians, and one even helps them. The conflict also ends with a peaceful surrender, not an outright conquest. The Pilot even says "War isn't always the answer."
- "Atomic Frankenstein": A quasi-Kaiju film (though the term doesn't exist in this world), directed by Ishiro Honda (known in this world for his epic war pictures, like Alice Springs or the Road to Agra). Follows a scientist who studies the effects of radiation on animals. Whilst experimenting , Communist terrorists seize on the lab, and the scientist becomes a large, hulking creature. He rampages through the country, whilst the military tries to stop him. Eventually, they find a link between Germany and the guerrillas, and realize that the Germans must have funded them. They direct Atomic Frankenstein into Germany, where he unleashes mass devastation, and the military destroy him. A clear anti-nuclear film, though not without glorifying the military (and not critiquing the military who gave them atomic weapons). The death of German civilians is implied, not actually shown, giving the film a pacifistic undertone, like "Romance."
 
DOWNFALL: A biopic of Charlie Chaplin told in a series of flashbacks but centred on the moment when on board a Europe bound ship Chaplin is told that his permit to re-enter the United States has been revoked. Chaplin's tearful rant against the anti-communist forces that have engineered his troubles forms the climax of the film and has been much copied in youtube pastiches.
 
The Los Angeles Series

Director: Christopher Nolan

Protagonists
- Sean Patrick Flanery as Sean 'Alpha Four' Kenney
- Mark Wahlberg as Russell 'The Marine' Atkinson
- Ashley Judd as Alexandra 'Alex' Cantrell
- Aaron Paul as Daniel 'Blackjack' Stevens
- Amber Heard as Brooklyn Townsend
- Ellie Goulding as Kristen 'DJ Dreams' Emerson
- Aubrey 'Drake' Graham as Devon Franklin
- Lonnie Rashid 'Common' Lynn as David 'The Genius' Palmer
- Lucas Black as Logan 'Aces' Hunter
- Summer Glau as Rebecca 'Overseer' Murselli
- Ronda Rowsey as Sarah Rowland
- Latarsha Rose as Vanessa Davison
- Jessica Alba as Sophia 'Starfighter' Arrelano
- Gal Gadot as Cameron 'Shadow' Almasi
- Dallas Sam as Sydney 'Queen Sniper' Reilly
- Zoë Kravitz as Talia 'Indy' Rosario
- Donald Sutherland as Michael Brewer

Antagonists
- Dean Norris as FBI Special Agent Derek Richards
- Nicholas Hoult as Alexander Kozhanov
- Oleg Takatrov as Viktor 'Dark Russian' Kozhanov
- Tyron Woodley as Jeremy 'Steeler' Robinson
- Powers Boothe as William Tanner


To Live And Die in L.A. (2013)
Los Angeles is one of the wealthiest places on Earth, but it also happens to be one of the most active in terms of both what happens on the surface and what happens beneath in the shadows. In this is Irish master criminal Sean Kenney (Sean Patrick Flanery), small-time Midwestern hustlers Logan Hunter (Lucas Black) and Daniel Stevens (Aaron Paul) who are in LA to make it big, very-aggressive former Marine Russell Atkinson (Mark Wahlberg) and gangbanger Devon Franklin (Aubrey 'Drake' Graham). The five meet each other by way of Devon and Russell meeting each other in a strip club and becoming involved in a number of small-time robberies, while Kenney arrives in Los Angeles and hires Logan and Daniel to help him scout out scores. After Devon and Russell hit a small bank that Sean had been scoping out, he seeks out and finds Devon and Russell, joining forces with them to go after much bigger scores.

After a job at a jewellery store set up by Sean and his genius tech genius and money launderer David Palmer (Lonnie Rashid 'Common' Lynn) gets them a fair bit of cash to play with, both Sean and Daniel find women that they find themselves attracted to - waitress Brooklyn Townsend (Amber Heard) and Club DJ Kristen Emerson (Ellie Goulding), both of whom are trying hard to move on forward with their lives on the right side of the law, but find their old connections make that hard. Kristen's dating Sean makes for a problem with Kristen's old boyfriend, Alexander Kozhanov (Nicholas Hoult) and his father Viktor (Oleg Takatrov), both of which know well who Sean is. At the same time, Devon's past also comes back to haunt him in the form of gang leader Jeremy 'Steeler' Robinson (Tyron Woodley), who feels that Devon has disrespected him for not cutting him into the laundering of the money earned from their jobs. Making matters worse is that the FBI, who is after Russell for an incident where he beat a man to death in a fight outside the Pearl Harbor naval base, and the FBI agent after them, Special Agent Derek Richards (Dean Norris), has a particular personal demand to settle the case.

Sean and his crew are hired to break a noted gangbanger out of jail, but the job goes south and exposes the crew to others. That puts Richards on their case, and his attempt to arrest Russell turns into a gunfight where one of the hired guns brought for the job is shot dead by the LAPD. After going into hiding, Sean angrily confronts Russell about his past, which ends in a fistfight between the two. Devon's attempt to go underground doesn't go much better, as he goes to his home to find Steeler there, whose boys beat Devon's girlfriend Vanessa (Latarsha Rose) nearly to death while he watches. Devon saves his girlfriend's life, but is more than a little enraged by Steeler's actions. At the hospital, he is approached by Derek, who tells him that if he snitches on Sean he can keep him out of jail and protect Vanessa. This is witnessed by Logan, who keeps his peace on it, and Devon tells Derek that he won't break his friends' trust.

Desperate to stay underground, Sean turns to LA's femme fatale assassin Alexandra Cantrell (Ashley Judd), who is open to helping Sean but on the grounds that the favor is returned - unknown to Sean at that point is that Alex is long-time friends with Kristen. Logan confronts Devon in front of Daniel, Russell and the girls, and Russell loses his temper with Devon and attacks him, the two being separated by Brooklyn, who barks back that if Devon was gonna sell him out to the FBI that he would have done so and that if he had Russell would be in jail now. Sean sets up a big job robbing a safe containing gold held by secretive businessman William Tanner (Powers Boothe). The job is going properly until Richards shows up in the middle of it with a sizable number of FBI agents in tow, forcing the crew to split or be arrested and in the process blowing their cover, resulting in a high-profile shootout in which Logan is badly wounded and exposing what's happening. Sean realizes that he's pushed his luck one too many times, and after getting away he calls Kristen to say that he can't come see her any time soon, as it would be too dangerous for both of them. At the same time Logan, who is dying, tries to talk to Daniel and say he's sorry for being in the middle of this mess, and that he should never leave behind who he cares about. Logan dies, leaving Daniel to call Brooklyn and visit her at her apartment. He has no sooner done that than two gunmen hired by Boothe show up, having followed Daniel right to her. Daniel escapes but cannot stop Boothe's men from attacking Brooklyn, but his fears are beaten when Alexandra, who had also been watching, shows up and beats back the two gunmen, allowing her and Brooklyn to escape. Devon tries to go see his girlfriend as well, but sees that the police are staking out the hospital she is at, and that him seeing her would get him arrested in short order. He calls her instead from a pay phone, vowing that he has not forgotten about her.

At Alexandra's loft, Brooklyn despairs over her not being likely to see Daniel again, but get surprised when two friends of Alexandra's show up - ex-Special Forces soldier Brooke Rowland (Ronda Rowsey) and renowned hacker Rebecca Murselli (Summer Glau). Surprised at their presence, Brooklyn asks what's going on, and gets the response "You didn't really think we were gonna leave Daniel and Sean and the others out to dry, did you?"

The movie ends with Kristen and Vanessa coming to see Alexandra and Brooklyn and being introduced to Rebecca and Sarah and with Sean, Daniel and Devon all separately lamenting what they have to do to extricate themselves from the mess they had created, unaware that their lovers were working on doing just that for them....

City of Angels (2015)
The movie begins with Brooklyn speaking of what one will do for the people they love, with that transitioning to the conversation between Alexandra, Brooklyn, Sarah, Vanessa, Kristen and Rebecca coming to a decision on what to do - they will compromise Agent Richards, then acquire a large enough sum of money that they can buy themselves allies for long enough to take over Los Angeles for themselves. Kristen comments that the amount of money needed to do this would be astronomical, and if they are gonna do this it would be best to go for the mother lode - the First Reserve Bank of Los Angeles, the third-largest precious metals depository in the United States. Alexandra has reservations about that, commenting on the incredible difficulty of the option, but both Rebecca and Sarah are for the idea, commenting that "this option is gonna be insane no matter where we go for the money. Why not aim for the crown? What have we got to lose?" Alexandra goes along, accepting the point and hoping that the confidence of the others is not misplaced.

The crew splits up and goes to an old friend of Alex and Sarah's, long retired CIA officer Michael Brewer (Donald Sutherland), who sends them off in the direction of helicopter pilot Sophia Arrelano (Jessica Alba) who was kicked out of the Army for turning down advances from a superior officer and then talking about it, shooters Cameron Almasi (Gal Gadot) and Sydney Reilly (Dallas Sam) and driver Talia Rosario (Lake Bell). The team then begins the complicated task of stealing from one of the most secure banks on Earth, as well as compromising Agent Richards and figuring who can and can't be trusted.

TBC....
 
The Loyalist – A historical epic about the American Revolutionary War, told from the point of view of a fine upstanding soldier who fights on the side of the British. Ends with him surviving the war and settling with his family in Upper Canada. Well-remembered for its villain, a sociopathic revolutionary colonel. Also features our protagonist, who is an abolitionist, fighting alongside a Black Loyalist supporting character who is to be freed by the Crown.

Good luck getting that made. :D

I had a similar idea for a Counter-Patriot film when the Mel Gibson film came out. The difference is that the Black Loyalist supporting character was replaced by and American Indian from one of the tribes that fought with the British and were given land in Canada afterwards. The American Indian would have a wickedly dry sense of humour.

As my plot ripped off The Outlaw Josey Wales, I was going to call the film Gone to Canada after the fictional novel my fictional film would be based on.

If made in the 1970s Christopher Plummer of Donald Sutherland would play the lead. Judy Bowker would replace Sondra Locke as the love interest. I would transfer Dan George to my film as he would play exactly the same character. But his morning I though of Jay Silverheels as an alternative and he was still alive at the time as was Clayton Moore.

The sequel would be GLORY! About a Black Loyalist regiment of the British Army fighting in the war. However, as Ken Loach directed it the tone of the film would be hostile to the British and sympathetic to the Rebels. I can see it being made by the BBC in its Play For Today series of feature length TV dramas.
 
Sepoys another Ken Loach film using the same formula as GLORY! This time it was about an Indian cavalry regiment on the Western Front in World War II.

As its another 1970s Play for Today there are no battle scenes for budgetary reasons and the film concentrates on the soldiers relations with the French civilians so it could also be regarded as a Bollywood version of Yanks.

The main storyline in the film is the romance between an Indian cavalryman played by Saeed Jaffrey and a French woman played by Françoise Pascal. The film is told from the point of view of their grandson who learns his grandparents story when his grandfather dies. Therefore it is also similar to another Loach film about the Spanish Civil War called Land and Freedom. The grandson is played by Ben Kingsley who was working in British TV at the time and he was in at least one Play for Today.
 
Pirates of the Mediterranean - a Mel Brooks film - spoofing the several pirate movies like pirates of Caribbean.

the movie features a band a band of merry yiddish pirates. John Candy plays Isaak Shvarts Payot (a blackbeard type of pirate captain)
 
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Driftless

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Pirates of the Mediterranean - a Mel Brooks film - spoofing the several pirate movies like pirates of Caribbean.

the movie features a band a band of merry yiddish pirates. John Candy plays Isaak Shvarts Payot (a blackbeard type of pirate captain)

That would have been great! Dan Ackroyd, Rick Moranis, Mel Brooks himself
 
The Longest Day

The Longest Day (fantasy/adventure)
A modern day sorceress makes an enemy of a major devil, who decides to do her one dis-service—telling her exactly which day she would die on.
So, as the appointed day approaches, she hatches a plan—to follow the sun, taking advantage of the international date line and timekeeping conventions, to ensure that, wherever she is, it is NOT July 23, 2008. The devil, becoming aware of the plan, is desperate to stop her—and teams up with a Cardinal, who doesn’t want people avoiding their appointed date with eternity. (And especially doesn’t want a devout pagan to live forever…)

Fleeing from the unholy duo of priest and fiend, the sorceress and her apprentice work their way west, by plane, ship, broom, gateway, and more, as the unholy alliance of church and fiend mobilize forces to try to stop them, so she can meet her scheduled doom. Replete with flashy battle scenes and explosive effects, the duo leave a trail of carnage behind them in their flight from July 23. Overall, a fun fantasy romp through the modern world.

The scene where she bamboozles the TSA with a well placed spell, thus bringing her sword and blunderbuss pistol right through security, while the fiend and cardinal are detained well past the takeoff of the plane, is a classic.

Unusual for a fantasy movie, considerable research was done to insure that real world science and history were portrayed accurately, and the magic was carefully thought out, as was its interaction with technology.

Much criticized by the Catholic Church for its portrayal of the villainous cardinal and his minions, the film is a staple for those who like action adventure, a sexy heroine, and lots of explosions, both magical and mundane. It was also criticized harshly by Homeland Security for its portrayal of the TSA and other agents—a portrayal that many experts claim is frightfully accurate.

Top rated, must see.

(And I just might try writing this...)
 

ThePest179

Banned
Another one for Fear, Loathing, and Gumbo.

Far Cry (2008)

Far Cry is one of many films set during the US intervention in South Africa. The film tells the story of Richard, a Spec Ops soldier who is given the objective to kill a Soviet arms dealer and Spetsnaz operative, Strelok "The Jackal", and collect intel on other known and unknown arms dealers and rebel commanders operating in the region. Over the course of the movie, Richard witnesses many atrocities committed by South African troops (as well as taking part in some), he begins to question his mission, and the war itself. When Richard finds and corners Strelok, he spares his life, in return for a safe trip to Europe. Strelok complies, and after three days of preparation, Richard is sent to Europe. The last scene depicts Strelok, three weeks later, getting gunned down by a different assassin unceremoniously, and completing the mission which Richard abandoned.
 
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