the Belgium War of 1919

ingemann

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Interesting, this would have large effects on the interbellum, whether Belgium lose or win.

But a win is the most interesting.

If Belgium win, it will have gotten a large group of Dutch speakers whom really don't identify as Belgian at all (like the Flemish to smaller or greater degree did and do). It will also have gotten a significant German/Luxembourgian minority. At the same time Belgian industry have been significant increased, it will have easier access to Germany (and vice versa).

Netherlands on the other hand will on the other hand likely heavy invest in their army and navy no matter what. While it may also tend toward pro-German/Nazism it may still decide to stay neutral (as it know if it choose the wrong side it will lose Indonesia). It loss of Limburg means that it will need to import raw material from Germany to feed its industry through Achterhoek may be able to deliver the needed coal.

In the interbellum we also saw increase economic cooperation between Benelux and the Nordic countries. We will not see a Dutch-Belgian cooperation, but cooperation between Netherlands and the Nordic countries will likely still happens. This will allow Netherlands to keep building their army up.

When WWII begins we will see a much better armed Netherlands, but also a Netherlands which Germany don't need to invade, so it may succeed in staying neutral through the War. Which will change Indonesias history radical, in that the Japanese dfo not break the Dutch hold over Indonesia, we may see a bloody Indonesian war of independence where much of the eastern part of Indonesia stay Dutch and later become independent as separate states from Java.

As for Belgium we will likely see a much larger collaboration from the Flemish/Belgian Dutch under the War. It will likely result in a much uglier relationship between the groups after the War, through membership of EEC and EU will likely keep things peaceful.
 
Wow three necromency in one thread.:eek:

Four Actually. After being created in July of 2008, it's been ressurected in April of 2009, April of 2010, Feburary of 2011 and now the OP's ressurecting it again in August of 2012.

Seriously, can we just give this thread a prize for this?:D
 
Four Actually. After being created in July of 2008, it's been ressurected in April of 2009, April of 2010, Feburary of 2011 and now the OP's ressurecting it again in August of 2012.

Seriously, can we just give this thread a prize for this?:D

upps, i got the feeling some member in this forum see me more like this:
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do i have to change my loggin name to : Fronk-en-steen ?

I'm just kidding.

I have the habit, to post info to my older threads or restart them.
do lack time or lack of information like this thread and other to pause.
you will see in future somme of my thread resurface :D
or do i broke some law in this forum ?

Back to topic

on ingemann remarks:

the only one how opposed Belgium would be the USA
France and Great Britain would with certain reserves, let Belgium act there way
because Belgium take parts from Weimar Republic and consider the invasion of Dutch and Luxembourg as collateral damage

Alternative:
in TL were King Albert I survived, He could take over some of areas on East special the on side of Third Reich after WW2.
 
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Honestly - you drive the Dutch into (NAzi)Germanys bed by doing it.

THe Japanese would get much coveted resources from the DEI without having to go to war - this might doom China.
 
Honestly - you drive the Dutch into (NAzi)Germanys bed by doing it.

THe Japanese would get much coveted resources from the DEI without having to go to war - this might doom China.

That put a complete new perspective on this TL

Netherlands join forces with The Third Reich against Belgium.
Maybe Netherlands become after 1919 even a Fascistic state !
the USA and Japan get a agreement, they can invade DEI (former Netherlands colony in Indonesia )
Pearl Harbor 41 never happen
Imperial Japan build his "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere"
this means the end of China as a Nation
intriguing view: a Japanese Empire survived World war two, never hit by a A-bomb
about A-bomb, Belgium deliver Uranium for US A-bomb program,
would Belgium really demand in exchange, to USA to additional A-bomb targets in Fascistic Netherlands ?

all this because Belgium national extremist in 1919...

thx for idea, Richter von Manthofen
 
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The Belgium war of 1919. ver 2.0

Part one

The death of King Albert I. of Belgium, during World War one. was shattering to the Kingdom of Belgium, because his son Leopold was too young for succession to the throne.
So the Belgium government took the responsibly, until Leopold reach the age of 21 in 1921.

This was the starting point for the 1919 war, the main reason was the traumata of belgium people who question: who is guilty for this ? why had our King to die ?

National Extremist in Flanders and Walloon found them fast:
next to former German Empire, it was also Luxembourg and Netherlands fault !
Because the Belgium government suspect, that Netherlands was not Neutral during the World War one and let German supply and troops movement true there land.
the Duchy Luxembourg, because there immediate surrender instead to fight against them.

But in Reality was a other reason:
The Belgium National Extremist wanted the Original boundary Belgium had in 1830, but lost territory in 1839 peace agreement
that include the duchy of Luxembourg and parts of the Netherlands province of Limburg.
Already in 1854 prince Leopold II had made Plans for invasion of Netherlands, to get this lost territory back. but abandon his plans.
The 65 year old Plan resurface and was modified in Honor to Kings Leopold II. and Albert I. by the Government
the modification include occupation of dutch Zeews Vlaander to provide harbor of Antwerp free access into north sea.
after treaty of Versailles, were Belgium territory claims was refused by US President Woodrow Wilson
the Plan was modified again for occupation of more German territory, because instead getting German territory as exchange for World War one, Belgium Government got only some Prussian Military railway under there control.

Also needed the Government this, to suppress upward trend of Separation or Republicans force in Belgium.

The build up of the Invasion force had problems, because allot Soldiers were most tired after 5 year war and refused to stay in the Army.
other who had no chance to join the Army during German invasion of Belgium Joint the Belgium Invasion force, mostly member of the belgium resistance.
who also were national extremist, like the war Veterans who volunteer for this.
To arm them was easy, the Belgium collected the Equipment left behind by Entente and German Empire forces on Belgium territory...
 
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