The Beatles find a concert venue for the proposed "Get Back" concert earlier

Thank you for the Clapton Preston explanation. I still think there's a distinction between touring and doing one off performances, and I do not know how Lennon and Harrison's reservations could be overcome.

If I remember correctly, a number of white album songs were either written or finalized after the sessions began, amounting to at least half an album side, so I think a May 1968 decision to do a single album could easily have led to the loss of those songs, among them Happiness is A Warm Gun, which I think may be Paul McCartney's favorite track on the album, he has said it was the closest thing to a Beatles track on it. If the Beatles make such a decision early enough I think the resulting record would sound different than if they made the decision later on when more songs had been fleshed out. As an aside if it did survive, and space was made for it, Happiness is a Warm gun might have made a fantastic contribution to the Abbey Road medley. The dropped Harrison tracks would go absolutely nowhere, so it may be there would not be as many surviving songs cut from "Umbrella" as we might imagine.

As for the account, I liked it. And I hope my nitpicking does not indicate otherwise

Well, bitching about not wanting to play and then playing and realizing you do is always a possibility - and actually a severely common one (trust me, I'm a recording artist/performer).

Also, keep in mind that my TL had them holding out on touring until their biggest success was their live album/concert film in '69. Their other output, Get Back (which in TTL a pretty shoddy double LP mixing the worst from White with all of OTL's Let It Be) is their least commercially successful outing to date with the most critical division. It would be apparent to Lennon and Harrison that recording is going to be the death of them, and Paul's desire to tour a bit will make a lot more sense.

What options for track listing could they have if they waited to decide on whether to make it a single or a double album until the very last minute? (i.e. What are the most OTL songs we can get written and still avoid a double LP?)

Also, do you see Happiness is a Warm Gun going on my TL's Come Together? That is OTL's Abbey road but recorded with Billy Preston by Brian Wilson and Willie Mitchell in Memphis with more strings and horn sections.

That medley with Al Green-esque horns/organ, Beach Boys-esque harmonies/strings, Happiness is a Warm Gun and Her Majesty thrown in, Billy Preston organ and Moog, and heavier (more miked) drums would be unstoppable in my opinion.
 
I think the divergence is interesting and I would love to hear that version of the song, but while it does take Revolution 1 and 9 away and frees up album space, I don't know if it explains the biggest change, namely the single album idea. The Beatles were talking about a double album in India. I think the only thing that could have convinced them to do otherwise would have been some sort of outside pressure limiting studio time, like their actually picking a third film to do or something like that. You probably need a situation where they agree that they simply can't record a double album and have time to release it in 1968.

I think this could happen organically. For example, they are attempting to record an entire double LP, but Martin keeps the pressure on to wait to flesh out some of the songs.

A more interesting Revolution single as a double A (they did this before), and maybe even an album version of Hey Jude distinct from the single (a la TTL's extended Revolution + Revolution 1 + Revolution 9 being included on the album) will fill out quite a bit of time and therefore only ten of the best White Album tracks from OTL would be included.

Let's say following the increased success of the single, John puts the combination of all versions of Revolution on the White Album, while Paul goes big (and slightly longer) with a version of Hey Jude more akin to the version off of OTL's LOVE, only with more instruments and vocalists.

That's most of side B finished.

Now just add the objectively best OTL White Album suggestions and an additional disc would hurt the product. Martin insists and the Beatles, although slightly reluctant agree.

EDIT: It is still the longest Beatle record to date.

Side A is all Lennon and McCartney White Album favorites and Side B is some L/M, Harrison, a Ringo track and then the behemoth of the album versions of Hey Jude and Revolution.

The following record, Get Back isn't terrible but is certainly a messy shambles that divides consumers, fans, and critics alike. When Live! at the Colosseum, Rome outsells Get Back in '69 the Beatles reluctantly agree to do a small tour of Europe and the US to promote Get Back, perform at Woodstock, and tighten up their chops before going to Memphis to record the Come Together LP.
 
Well if they make the decision in October, pretty much all the songs would have been at least in close enough to final shape to survive, though I do not know how such an abrupt about face would come about.

If you want a calmer 1968 generally, you might need to keep Lennon off heroin. Not sure how you do that. Of course that in and of itself would prevent a number of songs from emerging in all probability, beyond Cold Turkey. However if you do that, and Lennon is somehow in a better mood in the early part of those sessions, you have changed their tenor significantly. From the accounts I have read it was Lennon's even more foul than usual mood that began making those sessions such a miserable experience for everyone, and Paul McCartney blames a good part of that on heroin.

I could see Happiness is a Warm Gun appearing on any Beatles album with a medley after it was fully written, particularly considering McCartney's attitude towards the song which may actually mean it makes the "Umbrella" cut. Ironically, HIAWG does a better job foreshadowing an aspect of McCartney's solo work than anything McCartney actually wrote for it. McCartney has always loved his strung together medley songs.
 
Well if they make the decision in October, pretty much all the songs would have been at least in close enough to final shape to survive, though I do not know how such an abrupt about face would come about.

If you want a calmer 1968 generally, you might need to keep Lennon off heroin. Not sure how you do that. Of course that in and of itself would prevent a number of songs from emerging in all probability, beyond Cold Turkey. However if you do that, and Lennon is somehow in a better mood in the early part of those sessions, you have changed their tenor significantly. From the accounts I have read it was Lennon's even more foul than usual mood that began making those sessions such a miserable experience for everyone, and Paul McCartney blames a good part of that on heroin.

I could see Happiness is a Warm Gun appearing on any Beatles album with a medley after it was fully written, particularly considering McCartney's attitude towards the song which may actually mean it makes the "Umbrella" cut. Ironically, HIAWG does a better job foreshadowing an aspect of McCartney's solo work than anything McCartney actually wrote for it. McCartney has always loved his strung together medley songs.

Howabout this for your POD:

The Hey Jude/Revolution double A side occurs as I described and with the confidence boost this revolutionary radio hit provides, Lennon's heroin use is dramatically slowed down (though not altogether avoided).

This puts everyone in better spirits and by October they are more willing to compromise with George Martin on the double album question.

The Beatles perform a one-off show at the venue of your choice (my mini TL here has it as the Colosseum, but it's really up to you) which is live broadcast televised internationally via satellite (even in the Soviet Union, unlike the All You Need Is Love broadcast).

The concert benefits both the band and a legitimate charity organization financially. Guest spots by Billy Preston, some Symphony Orchestra, Ravi Shankar, and Eric Clapton cement the historic nature of the performance.

The album is a huge success, but becoming overconfident, diving deeper into drugs, and growing interpersonal conflicts mar the next release, Get Back.

Realizing that the Beatles strength is once again as a live act, the group (even Harrison, believing getting away from London will do Lennon wonders; as Lennon is following the concert even worse off than OTL) succumbs to Paul McCartney's good sense and hit the road for a small tour of Europe and the US where they spend a good deal of time in Memphis and New York (becoming introduced to a new burgeoning underground scene in New York, a scene which will ensnare Lennon following the Beatles amicable break up a couple of years later) as well as headlining Woodstock. The Woodstock performances also have a profound effect on the band, who are now confidently post-psychedelic (while still semi-psychedelic) hard soul-rock.

The final show of this tour will be another mega-concert utilizing whatever idea we didn't use before (cruise ship on the Thames could work in my scenario, although I still like the desert idea because it may introduce Lennon and Harrison at least to some more Arabic rhythms, scales, progressions, and culture - possibilities abound later on).

Following the success and good experience of Come Together the Beatles take a break for a year, during which time Lennon moves to New York early and gets mixed up in the New York underground with Iggy, Lou, and Bowie. McCartney launches a hugely successful solo album/tour, and Harrison flirts with incorporating Arabic blues into his semi-Indian folk-rock. Ringo acts.

John releases an analog of OTL's Plastic Ono Band LP but produced by Tony Visconti who brings a Lou Reed Transformer element and encourages John to glam it up a bit musically. Also notable as being the first western album to become popular with instruments like the rebab incorporated (albeit subtly). Yoko kicks John out earlier and instead of going to L.A., he returns to London in 1970 to sober up a bit and write.

All the Beatles are coming off of tours or releases at the same time and the four meet up in mid-to late 1970 to discuss a collaboration or perhaps a show of some kind.

Paul offhandedly approaches Martin who agrees to produce a back to basics, return to roots type final album - done his way - which will reflect the Beatles' entire musical journey while sending them off on the next phase.

The album, Everest containing equal parts Lennon, McCartney, and Harrison tracks is a conscious goodbye to the fans and sells extremely well and the hidden bonus track, a revamped version of Love Me Do becomes a fan favorite (this was in fact an OTL idea scrapped for Let It Be).


They all part ways. Lennon styles himself as the least glamorous of the Bowie-bunch of MainMan artists (Bowie, Reed, Iggy) and also the most revolutionary (while still being an extreme pacifist, Lennon here becomes far more radical). And the subtle Arab bent to his rockier-than-OTL sound is a trendsetter.

Eventually, he and Yoko reunite and have a child together roughly the same time as OTL (hell, they may even have two). Lennon's house husband days are a little less hermit-like TTL, but he achieves domestic happiness nonetheless.

McCartney's career is pretty much OTL.

Harrison continues to struggle with conflicting opinions within himself on personal enlightenment and musical progress, but he does far better than OTL during the seventies and eighties and introduces a whole new segment of the population to Arab music as well as continuing to do so with Indian music, religion, and culture. Incidentally, both Arab and Indian popular culture are mutually affected.

Ringo does his thing, perhaps acting a little more and maybe even forming a supergroup in the seventies with Harry Nilsson (saving the latter's career).

The lads still talk, and are friendly, but hesitate to reunite again until the early eighties and perhaps again in the nineties.

And there I go again going too far...
 
Perhaps another way of arriving at a single album would be a third 1968 single and having George Martin convince the group they need to shovel a few more songs sideways onto Yellow Submarine to fill it out. Conceivably if that happens, they would be left with an album and a half, rather than a full double album. After much grumbling, a single apbum might emerge from that process.
 
Perhaps another way of arriving at a single album would be a third 1968 single and having George Martin convince the group they need to shovel a few more songs sideways onto Yellow Submarine to fill it out. Conceivably if that happens, they would be left with an album and a half, rather than a full double album. After much grumbling, a single apbum might emerge from that process.

You're a genius, I never even thought of that.

What songs could conceivably be singles in this scenario?
 
You're a genius, I never even thought of that.

What songs could conceivably be singles in this scenario?

I think we would be looking at one single. The obvious one is Obladi Oblada considering it was a hit record for another group that year. If Lennon is happy enough with Revolution that he is agreeable to its release it probably stands the best chance of release. The B side fould be any number of things. Lennon could demand one of his pet songs like Yer Blues be the other side of a double A single, one of the Harrison tracks could be on it (Savoy Truffle) Or McCartney could grab one of his favorite Lennon songs from the period The Cobtinuing Story of Bungalow Bill.

If it isn't the B side I could see Lennon trying to convince the group to release Yer Blues as a single, though it doesn't really work for that. It would be a much better fit for the Plastic Ono Band.
 
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