The Battle at Dawn: The first battle between the United States and Japan December 7-10, 1941

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So the IJN is down to three available carriers with reduced air wings...How much ammunition will the Japanese battleships have on board after completing the bombardment?

I'd honestly be looking at having some US cruisers and destroyers attack the invasion force...
 
Hot frick'n DAMN!!!

Ok, lots of blood and men lost in the early morning. Too many USN strike squadrons and pilots lost. They did get a carrier, but it was the slowest and oldest one. The Japanese lost a few fighter pilots, and many of the fighters will be out until they can be rearmed and refueled. The US has launched strikes at the invasion force, but the Japanese battleships are about to blast Midway to pieces. Or at least the airfield. Yikes!

The US still has surface and subs available, but unless they can cripple/sink some more of the IJN carriers, the US is about to lose one to three carriers.

As always absolutely enjoying the updates and all the action you throw into them. Thanks for the series of chapters and I will wait to see how things go later in the Morning of the story.
 
They have already lost more than o.t.l. shall they double down and see how much more can they loose? Let them burn up more fuel, at best take over an island they have zero chance of holding. Go east while you have the ships to make the difference, otherwise your political influeance will fall and the army will pick up every other resource they can.
 


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This was one of the movie Zekes, a Canadian-built Harvard. Couldn't you have got a real Zeke for this timeline?
 
They have already lost more than o.t.l. shall they double down and see how much more can they loose? Let them burn up more fuel, at best take over an island they have zero chance of holding. Go east while you have the ships to make the difference, otherwise your political influeance will fall and the army will pick up every other resource they can.

Also if the IJN actually TAKE Midway then they either have a long battle of attrition keeping this distant isolated base supplied or abandon it and accept the loss of face involved. It's a lot closer to American power than Japanese, and bases could and would be built in the string of islands leading from Hawaii to Midway.

Yes the smart move would be to abandon the place, saying the point of the exercise had been fulfilled with the 'great victory' but what will the Army or any Admirals that want Yamamoto's position say? Giving it up would be logical, but WWII Japan was not big on that kind of logic as far as I can see.
 
Even if the Japanese somehow win by sinking the US carriers and taking Midway they are still short of a carrier, several other ships and experienced pilots and crew for other carriers they want to build. The more attrition Japan takes, the less chance it is for them secure New Guiena
 

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Got to ask. how (if at all) would this TL is it were reality change the OTL ship building program and the aircraft dev and procurement fpr that matter?
 
Japanese have already lost two carriers (KAGA and I believe a sub got SORYU) and ZUIKAKU is headed back for time in the repair yard. Plus their air groups have been butchered. Yeah the Americans are getting clobbered but this is not going well for Japan.
 
Impressive battle scenes here. That many bomb hits--no wonder Kaga's gone. Losing one of the big carriers this early is a disaster for Japan.
 
So, I counted 132 fighters (flying from four carriers) the IJN is using on the Midway attack. The original oob had 135 flying from six carriers. I thought they lost more than 3 fighters in Hawaii?
 
So, I counted 132 fighters (flying from four carriers) the IJN is using on the Midway attack. The original oob had 135 flying from six carriers. I thought they lost more than 3 fighters in Hawaii?

I will double check my numbers.... should be 27 x 4= 108
90 for Midway sweep / CAP
18 reserve
(some of the Midway sweep were planned to be used for Strikes)
 
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