The Battle at Dawn: The first battle between the United States and Japan December 7-10, 1941

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Excellent writing, and this sounds right on target for results. I'd say Oklahoma is a write-off for certain. West Virginia was one of the newest of the Standards, with 8 16" guns. Oklahoma was THE least capable of the Standards, and one of the oldest. Triple expansion engines, 10 14" guns, and chewed up; the only reason for a rebuild would be propaganda. That decision need not be made soon.

Commissioned in 1916, she was well past her sell-by date; IIRC, the second South Dakota was to be her treaty replacement.

Oklahoma's turrets may fill the role that Arizona's did in OTL--defensive batteries that are not needed.
 
I'm very much enjoying this....as far as Oklahoma and Utah are concerned....there are a lot higher priorities other than scrapping them...

Now as far as using the turrets from Oklahoma and if you think about it, the 5 inches mounted on Utah...the 5 inchers should certainly be put back to use, as far as the turrets from Oklahoma are concerned, I think it depends on what Japanese losses look like over the next 3 days. Would it be worth moving a two gun turret to Midway and perhaps one to Wake if it can be held? The rest of the tubes and turrets would be better used as spares...
 

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The turrets for a dreadnought can't simply be dropped in place somewhere like Midway. You need major facilities to move them--something like this: http://www.maritimequest.com/warshi...5_craneship_1_ab1/10_uss_crane_ship_1_ab1.jpg and the facilities to build a barbette. Normal coasst defense guns--even 16" ones...are emplaced in bunkers rather than battleship turrets.

This is pure speculation on my part.... Wouldn't you also be running into water table issues at Midway for installing a recycled turreted gun? Wouldn't you need to build a water-proof caisson of sorts around both the gun casemate and the magazine? The highest point on Midway Atoll is 18' above mean sea level from what I've seen.

Was that part of the thought process for selecting the guns (3" to 5") for Wake Island as well-less engineering for the emplacement?
 
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Sunrise on Oahu: the Second Wave
Sunrise over Oahu

The First Lull
By 0630 it is clear that the torpedo attack is over. Air defense headquarters is reporting that a large force is 45 minutes out and approaching at medium altitude. Admiral Bloch, commander of the Hawaiian naval district, orders the Neosho moved, and 2 tugs and the Oglala assist Commander John Philips in moving her to the Middle Loch where all three vessels continue to assist her in dealing with her fires. This tremendous feat of seaman ship would earn Commander Philips a Medal of Honor and Navy Crosses were awarded to several of her crew as well as the commanders of the other vessels and Admiral Furlong who oversees the operation aboard his flagship.

At this point, the Ward reports attacking and sinking an enemy submarine right at the harbor entrance, and Admiral Richardson is forced to reconsider a sortie. He orders the seaplane tenders to move to the East Loch. The Maryland, California, and West Virginia, all undamaged, are sent to Carrier Row while the destroyer Dewey is ordered to move with them as a roving ship to provide extra AA coverage in case of another torpedo attack. All four ships are still in motion when the Second Wave reaches their target. The destroyers Henley, Patterson, and Ralph Talbot also move to the East Loch to provide additional AA support to the undamaged battleships and are also still moving as the Japanese aircraft approach. This leaves only the Arizona, Nevada, and Tennessee along with the Vestal (which is sinking) and the Dobbin (which is barely afloat) at Battleship Row.

Second Wave

0700 hours Fire in the Sky
The Japanese manage to form up by the time they are approaching the coast as visibility has improved and the morning light is now sufficient to enable safe formation flying. They have been spotted by radar and General McConnell vectors all of his P40s to hit them as they cross the coast. He sends the P36 squadrons to provide point defense, one to orbit over Diamond Head and the other to orbit over Barbers Point so that they can be committed against any formations that get through.

The American P40 squadrons have climbed to 14,000 feet by the time the Japanese formations begin crossing the coast. The Japanese are in a single massive formation, with the Val Dive bombers in the lead and the level bombers arranged by squadrons behind them. The bombers are at 10,000 feet and accelerating toward their attack speed. Providing cover are 18 Zeroes as the Kaneohe raid attack has been canceled because of the delays in launching. Another 42 Zeroes are above and behind the bombers to provide high cover at 12,000 feet. McConnell orders the 18th Pursuit Group to attack the enemy fighter escort while the 15th Pursuit Group goes for the bombers.

The Americans have studied the recommendations made by Chennault both in person and in writing, and attempt to make their first pass count. The Zeroes spot the approaching Americans and are climbing to meet them as the American fighters make their dives. The two American fighter groups score 9 kills as the Zero proves to be terribly vulnerable to the .50 caliber machine gun. The P40B and P40C has two in the nose, plus 4 .30 caliber machine guns on the wings. However many of the American pilots, while very experienced, and indeed in many cases even more experienced than their opponents, are still green and open fire at too great a range and fail to take into account the rapid closing rate. Thrilled by their success, the American aggressiveness soon turns into a mistake when the P40 pilots attempt to dogfight the Zero and learn that the Japanese is not to be trifled with in a dogfight.

However the 47th Pursuit has an open field while the other American squadrons keep the Zeros busy, and they rip into the 21 level bombers from the Zuikaku which has the mission of attacking Ewa Field. Lieutenant Ken Taylor is the high scoring pilot, shooting down 4, while his wingman George Welch gets 2 more and in all the 47th shoots down 13 of the Kates and force the rest to jettison their bombs and run for the coast as nearly all the rest are damaged to one degree or another. The 47th escapes with only 2 planes damaged by return fire.

Meanwhile the other 5 American squadrons learn the hard way that Chennault's lessons are to be heeded. Although they end up shooting down a total of 15 Zeros (including the aircraft shot down in the first pass) the Americans lose 11 P40s shot down and another 16 are damaged and the none of the rest manage to penetrate the fighter cover to engage any other bombers. However the Japanese pilots are lost forever while 6 American pilots manage to successfully bail out. The Japanese learn that the P40 is practically invulnerable to their rifle caliber machine guns and they do not have enough 20 mm ammunition for a long fight.

As the Japanese push through, McConnell makes a serious mistake and commits both of his P36 squadrons to defend Wheeler Field and both squadrons reach the 21 Kates from the Shokaku after the other 50 Kates and 6 Vals have split off to proceed toward Pearl Harbor. It is later learned that the radar operator at Fort Shafter lost them briefly in a radar shadow created by the mountains. By the time he discovers his error the formations have split.

For the 21 Japanese bombers attacking Wheeler Field, this is a costly disaster for them. The Americans attack with 24 P36 Hawks and while they have half the firepower of the P40 and are slower, they are plenty fast enough to fight a Kate. Lieutenant Gabreski leads the scoring, getting 2 in his first pass, but 9 are shot down by the American fighters, most of the others suffer damage from Army flak guns, and while 36 bombs hit the base and several hangers are set afire and over 25 aircraft are destroyed in hangers or on the ramp, it is hardly worth the cost. Particularly when the Hawks make another pass and shoot down 8 more of them. Only a single Kate makes it back to the Shokaku and is written off on landing, the rest are lost in combat directly or ditch on the way.

The Japanese attempt to neutralize the American fighter force has been a disaster. Of 42 bombers and 60 fighters, they have lost 33 bombers and 15 fighters and critically for the Japanese Naval Air Force, all of those air crew. Damage to Wheeler Field is serious but it is far from knocked out, and while 29 P40 and 4 Hawks are out of the fight (11 permanently, the rest for at least a day), the Americans still have 20 P36 and 47 P40s that remain available and they will be rearmed, refueled and ready for the next wave. Of course these are actual losses. The Japanese pilots claim 30 kills, and damage to 20 more, making the same inflated claims that pilots always do. The Americans claim 90 kills, certain that they completely destroyed the Shokaku and Zuikaku groups and ravaged the Japanese fighters and as gun cameras are not installed yet, and it will take days to find the wreckage of the aircraft shot down, many of those claims stand.

But while this disaster has cost the Japanese dearly, it has cleared the way for the Pearl Harbor attack force of 50 level bombers and 6 dive bombers and there are no fighters standing in their way.


0715 Hours: A rain of bombs
The Japanese level bombers fly just above the crest line of the Koo Lau Mountains and make their turn approaching the harbor at McGrew Point lined up on Battleship Row. The dive bombers then break off and begin their dive on the Fleet Headquarters building.

This target was the most difficult for Genda and Yamamoto to justify to themselves but the decision was made late in the planning that the best way to reduce the effectiveness of the American battle fleet was to hit their command center and communications facilities at the fleet headquarters building. While not aimed specifically at Admiral Richardson, his death would not be an unfortunate result. Of greater importance is temporarily paralyzing the American ability to coordinate their naval forces that are not at Pearl Harbor. The 6 Val Dive Bombers push over into their attack into a wall of fire from ships and Army flak guns who are also shooting at the far bigger target flying straight and level at 10,000 fleet toward Battleship Row. The dive bombers manage to get all 6 of their bombs on or near the target, and 3 bombs hit the building directly while 3 others land just in front of it. The building has most of the upper part of it destroyed, although the basement (and the critical decoding and intelligence office) are barely touched. However, Admirals Richardson and Pye are observing the approach of the level bombers through a window when a 250 kg bomb lands a mere 40 feet from that window, killing Admiral Richardson instantly and leaving Admiral Pye critically wounded (and missing his left arm). Losses to staff are also heavy and the Fleet Signals office is all but wiped out. Only 4 of the Japanese bombers escape as flak catches them as they pull out of their dives, and of the rest, all are damaged to varying degrees but manage to make it back to their ship.

Battleship Row
The Japanese have 50 level bombers, and leading the attack is Commander Fuchida. As he surveys the port for damage he is appalled to discover that there are 3 undamaged battleships at Carrier Row and the flak is too intense to risk more than one bomb run. He orders half of the force to focus on the Nevada and the rest to focus on the Arizona and a total of 50 bombs are dropped in a very tight group. Flak downs 6 of the bombers as they release or just after, and nearly all of the remaining aircraft take at least some damage, but results are exactly as expected, or so is claimed later. Of 50 bombs dropped, 11 hit a target. Of these 1 goes through every deck of the Dobbin including her engine room and detonates in the mud below the ship, breaking her back and sending her to the bottom within a few minutes. The Vestal is hit by two bombs, both of which plunge all the way through her and both of these bombs are disappointing from the Japanese perspective. The hurried weapons program that produced them was flawed, and nearly half of the bombs have serious problems that result either in low order detonations or complete failure to detonate at all. The Vestal is lucky as both of these bombs are duds. However, a near miss close alongside the Vestal results in exactly the result desired as it detonates normally, and yet more flooding hurries her to the harbor bottom. The Tennessee, which was just getting underway and as yet not seriously damaged aside from debris and fire damage from the explosion of the Hull, is hit twice. The first is a dud which nevertheless wrecks a 14 inch gun in her aft most turret, rendering that gun inoperable. The second bomb detonates in her stern, wrecking the steering compartment, the rudder and both screws, and brings her to a rapid halt.

However the Nevada and the Arizona are the far worst hit. Japanese planners had estimated a 24% chance of getting a hit in an engineering space, and a 20% chance of a magazine hit. These estimates turn out to be right on the money. Of 6 bombs, each battleship takes 3 hits. The Nevada suffers a low order explosion in the ships galley that wipes out an entire damage control team, while another bomb smashes her forward most turret but the low order explosion kills only the crewmen there but does no other damage. The final hit penetrates into her forward boiler room, detonating there and wiping out that space and several nearby compartments as well as letting in water that her crew is nevertheless able to stop although at this point several hundred tons of water has entered the ship and she will need months of repairs.

It is the Arizona however that suffers the fatal blow. One bomb hits her and breaks up after breaking the number 3 turret ring. Another penetrates her after engine room and fails to explode. However the fatal blow occurs when a bomb penetrates her forward magazine that starts a fire that 45 seconds later results in that magazine detonating and killing nearly 1,000 men in an instant.

The surviving Japanese aircraft break for home, and with the American fighters still rearming and refueling, they get away. A total of 8 aircraft are lost to flak during the attack, a result only possible because of the destruction of the Ewa and Wheeler Field attack forces. However, one battleship has been destroyed, and two others are knocked out of action for months at least. A fleet auxiliary has also been sunk as has a destroyer, and personnel casualties are very severe aboard the Arizona and very high aboard the Nevada, Vestal, Dobbin and Tennessee. Indeed this attack has resulted in the most casualties of the day as over 1,500 men are dead or missing never to be found among all the ships and at the base. Fleet headquarters is shattered, and communications are down until something can be restored. Among the dead are Admiral Richardson and Rear Admiral Kidd, and Admiral Pye is out of action as well. Admiral Bloch is senior officer present and takes command upon hearing the news while he is aboard the tug Ontario overseeing the movement of the battleships around Carrier Row.
 
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authors note: of 13 AP bombs dropped (converted shells) that hit something roughly half failed to explode or resulted in low order detonations. However one of these low order detonations created a fire in the magazine of the Arizona that was fatal. Two other battleships were sent home for repairs from basically duds and low order detonations. The Vestal took a hit that went right through her and turned out to be a dud. But numerous near misses exploded just fine and historically this attack was very successful in terms of results

In this timeline fewer targets, so less dispersal of targets and a decrease in hits (flak was heavy against the OTL attackers too) but the Japanese get somewhat better results. In some run through they got two magazine hits, in others they got none when I gamed it out. So taking the average here

In this timeline the Japanese take a lesson from the Germans and attempt to paralyze the American fleet command. They are seeking a battle with the fleet after hitting the base. Hitting the fleet command center is function of this task. One could argue that this is not historical in terms of Japanese typical tactics, but Yamamoto is gambling for a fleet action here, and reducing American command effectiveness is part of the plan for that. The American fleet that survives the attack respond ineffectively (or so he hopes) and this will allow Yamamoto to find and defeat the fleet that isn't in the harbor without fear of them being reinforced.

According to the plan

Some of this is of course poetic license. Kimmel literally wished for his death when a spent bullet hit him as he watched the Arizona explode and the Oklahoma roll over. He would have preferred to die with his fleet. I figure Richardson would have wanted the same thing.
 
Shame to see the Arizona suffer its OTL fate. But I guess considering the amount of times it gets attacked here it only makes sense.
Still, Japanese carriers are going to be in desperate need of recuperation after this, with precious little in the way of offensive capability. This along with less damage to the American Battleline might allow the USN to be more proactive in resisting Japanese offensives towards Wake and Midway.
 
Shame to see the Arizona suffer its OTL fate. But I guess considering the amount of times it gets attacked here it only makes sense.


her position and that of the Nevada dictated the attack priority and thus the results in this timeline. In OTL the Nevada was not targeted as the density of battleships was further forward.
 
This is pure speculation on my part.... Wouldn't you also be running into water table issues at Midway for installing a recycled turreted gun? Wouldn't you need to build a water-proof caisson of sorts around both the gun casemate and the magazine? The highest point on Midway Atoll is 18' above mean sea level from what I've seen.

Was that part of the thought process for selecting the guns (3" to 5") for Wake Island as well-less engineering for the emplacement?

The 3" guns had been selected for the Marine Base Defense Battalions back in the 1920s. They were relatively portable & had a minimum accaptable capability vs ships, and had utility as anti aircraft artillery. The 5" guns were added on as the 1930s ran out to give the BDB more punch. They still were relatively portable, which was important as the BDB were suposed to be able to pack up and move to defend other forward naval bases as needed, unlike the Army coast artillery units.
 
The turrets for a dreadnought can't simply be dropped in place somewhere like Midway. You need major facilities to move them--something like this: http://www.maritimequest.com/warshi...5_craneship_1_ab1/10_uss_crane_ship_1_ab1.jpg and the facilities to build a barbette. Normal coasst defense guns--even 16" ones...are emplaced in bunkers rather than battleship turrets.

Good points. The turrets and guns might prove better as spares and replacements if the ships are not recommissioned. The 5/25's and 5/38's could prove useful with adding to the AAA on the other battleships if/when they get an upgrade.
 

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Comparing this universe to OTL: there would likely still be great recrimination against local commanders for the damage done to the fleet and land bases. Our 20-20 hindsight also sees the tremendous loss of Japanese aircraft and especially skilled aircrews - something not apparent to the average US citizen back in Iowa, hearing about all of the US losses.

Still Admiral Richarson probably (deservedly) winds up with a Midway class carrier named in his honor
 
More good stuff. Nitpick here, though an important one. Tennessee was armed with 12 14" guns, not the 8 16's of the Colorado class--so how many guns were taken out may be important. It's looking like battleship losses are abut as bad as OTL--2 total losses, and the same 2--Arizona and Oklahoma. More total losses of other ships, too--but at a high cost to the Japanese. Losing Neosho can hurt later. Well done here!
 
You mentioned casualties were higher on Nevada than Arizona. How did that happen?
EDIT: Nevermind, I read that wrong.

that might have been poorly edited, so I will review that. Total loses on the attack by the High Level Bombers and dive bomber attack on Fleet HQ were 1,500 total dead, including roughly 1,100 aboard the Arizona. The number of wounded are very high as well, as many men were on deck on nearby ships. The Tennessee was in close proximity to 2 major detonations, so nearly every one who was exposed on deck aboard the her was at least wounded and many were killed between the detonation of the Hull and the even bigger explosion of the Arizona (plus the hits she suffered too)

Far worse than she suffered in OTL
 
More good stuff. Nitpick here, though an important one. Tennessee was armed with 12 14" guns, not the 8 16's of the Colorado class--so how many guns were taken out may be important. It's looking like battleship losses are abut as bad as OTL--2 total losses, and the same 2--Arizona and Oklahoma. More total losses of other ships, too--but at a high cost to the Japanese. Losing Neosho can hurt later. Well done here!

she took a hit that wrecked a turret ring in OTL, but losing one of three guns in her turret does reduce her firepower somewhat. More important obviously is the damage to her stern. On the plus side, thus far, 4 battleships are unscathed and the only aircraft with weapons that can sink one are done with their attacks. While 250 kg bombs can do a lot of damage to the upper works of a battleship they cannot penetrate the main decks.

Those bombs can kill cruisers and carriers (in sufficient numbers) but they can't kill a battleship. They can only knock one out of action for a while.
 
Comparing this universe to OTL: there would likely still be great recrimination against local commanders for the damage done to the fleet and land bases. Our 20-20 hindsight also sees the tremendous loss of Japanese aircraft and especially skilled aircrews - something not apparent to the average US citizen back in Iowa, hearing about all of the US losses.

Still Admiral Richarson probably (deservedly) winds up with a Midway class carrier named in his honor

well initially he and Kidd will get destroyers named for them and the Navy will make him a hero because he went down with his ship (so to speak)
 
there were at least three different tables of organization for Marine Corps Defense Battalions, depending on what kind of heavy weapon they were equipped with, there was one organization that used the old Navy 7 inch gun (which were emplaced at Midway), I can't find the exact cite, but I remember reading it in Samuel Eliot Morrison's History of US Naval Operations in WW2, probably Volume 3.
 
Cool updates and sorry that Arizona was lost as OTL. I understand how it could happen, just sorry that the trembles of fate dictated her loss with so many. This is proving to have a higher body count for both sides. The loss of the Arizona and the crippling of the Tennessee and Nevada has lowered the ability of the US battle line to respond to any follow up attacks toward the IJN.

Good point about the Japanese taking out the Navy HQ. Cutting off, for now, the leadership of the Fleet and having to reroute communications may hinder the ability to fight off the 3rd Wave. Shame that so many of the IJN bombers got away, but I am sure that even those planes that made it back may not be able to fight any time soon. How many will be written off or have a lengthy repair time?

Now the US will need to rearm and refuel its remaining fighters so that they can hopefully do more damage to the 3rd Wave.
 
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