And yes, it would be the feature of such a system, and not a bug, that a non-surgeon almost always decides when an operation is necessary or highly helpful.
So, it's rare, but it's the thing. There really is the occasionally human being walking around with two hearts in their chest.Two hearts are better than one for toddler who undergoes historic operation
Stanford Medicine News Center, Oct. 21, 2004
https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-n...toddler-who-undergoes-historic-operation.html
' . . . called a heterotopic or “piggyback” heart transplant . . . '
' . . . Double hearts are a good choice for patients whose heart problems cause extremely high blood pressure in the pulmonary artery . . . '
' . . . From 1997 to 2001, eight children received heterotopic heart transplants in the United States. . . '
We have minimally trained "medics" now, they're called EMT's...so, what's your point/proposal? Are we supposed to believe that high school grads with decent grades and better than average reactions/fine motor skills go off to a Medical JC and graduate in 2 years with an Associates Degree in Surgery?In OTL, the 1910 Flexner Report brought big changes to U.S. medical training and practice.
As an ATL, I'm envisioning a post-WWII committee also bringing big changes, but of a different sort. The committee looks at such factors as the experience of rather minimally trained medics during the war, and also the fact that the country was becoming richer perhaps faster than you could realistically train doctors the standard way for the anticipated demand.
And every once in the while, a committee charged with issuing recommendations does come up with radical proposals.
Perhaps a little of both.Is this thread about baseball or medicine...?
Let's say top 20% in fine motor skills. And for the simpler operations, I'm thinking could be in there doing the operation within six months.. . Are we supposed to believe that high school grads with decent grades and better than average reactions/fine motor skills go off to a Medical JC and graduate in 2 years with an Associates Degree in Surgery?
And that's kind of the gist of the it. Surgeons aren't necessarily doctors in this system. Surgeons often progress to becoming doctors sometime between their late 20s and early 40s, but it's just as "normal" for them to not to. In fact, there's even a career designation of "master surgeon.". . . The surgeon’s going to take out that skin growth or tumor. The doctor might decide that your atypically . . .
Count me in the 99%ers, big guy...I am actually rather stunned by this. While I absolutely accept that professional athletes have a God given gift well beyond the average person that does not translate, in any way, into the sort of knowledge it requires to be a surgeon. Yes some 18 year olds have exceptional motor skills, but can you even get a 12 year old to understand half the information a physician needs to acquire, even if you see surgeons as more highly paid meat-cutters (which BTW is entirely untrue) I would point out that the number of 18 year old highly trained butchers is fairly close to zero.
Perhaps the best way to ask this question is this: would you rather have an 18 year old with maybe two years of training, and the maturity if the average 18 year old or a 28 (or 38) yer old who has gone through the pressure cooker of STEM undergrad, Medical School, and Residency with all the knowledge acquired during all that schooling perform life or death surgery on the individual you love most on this earth?
Fairly sure I know how 99% of the population is going to answer.
I am actually rather stunned by this. While I absolutely accept that professional athletes have a God given gift well beyond the average person that does not translate, in any way, into the sort of knowledge it requires to be a surgeon. Yes some 18 year olds have exceptional motor skills, but can you even get a 12 year old to understand half the information a physician needs to acquire, even if you see surgeons as more highly paid meat-cutters (which BTW is entirely untrue) I would point out that the number of 18 year old highly trained butchers is fairly close to zero.
Perhaps the best way to ask this question is this: would you rather have an 18 year old with maybe two years of training, and the maturity if the average 18 year old or a 28 (or 38) yer old who has gone through the pressure cooker of STEM undergrad, Medical School, and Residency with all the knowledge acquired during all that schooling perform life or death surgery on the individual you love most on this earth?
Fairly sure I know how 99% of the population is going to answer.
You put it that way, especially since we both know that 28-, 29-,or 30-year old resident is seriously sleep deprived.. . . would you rather have an 18 year old with maybe two years of training, and the maturity if the average 18 year old or a 28 (or 38) yer old who has gone through the pressure cooker of STEM undergrad, Medical School, and Residency . . .