The Austro-Bulgarians

This morning as I was waking up, in my dream I heard this strange word no details or context and thought it would make an interesting thread. I admit I know next to nothing here, so an Austro-Bulgarian Empire is it possible without ASB. If so how? What would this empire be like? The only thoughts I have in this matter is that this monstrosity would some what more powerful but much more unstable.
 
The Bulghars and not the Avars and Magyars settle in the Pannonian Plain in the Migration Period, leading to an Oghur Turkic-speaking "Bulgaria" replacing Hungary in world history.
 
The Bulghars and not the Avars and Magyars settle in the Pannonian Plain in the Migration Period, leading to an Oghur Turkic-speaking "Bulgaria" replacing Hungary in world history.
It's worth noting that this kind of happened IOTL. The Bulgars did control a large part of Pannonia during the First Empire period. However its center was always south, towards Greece, which was at times a valuable trading partner and at times a vulnerable target for lucrative raids. By contrast there was relatively little to draw the Bulgars to settle much in Pannonia. The problem here is that any PoD that would get the Bulgars to settle there rather than where they did would require a more powerful ERE to repulse them, or a different steppe group to push them out of the region before they became sedentary. Either of these would almost certainly butterfly away 'Austria' as we know it.

Hmm... Maybe the Varna crusade succeeds, creating Catholic crusader states in the Balkans including a sizable one for Bulgaria. Over time through marriage and conquest the Habsburgs end up controlling the Balkans, but due to butterflies Hungary remains outside of their control. Later on the HRE collapses/is dissolved and the new Austrian empire takes its place. Eventually the Bulgarians become the second most populous ethnic group in the empire (somehow) and the Austrians are forced to grant them a dual monarchy like with Hungary IOTL.
 

gurgu

Banned
well, there were 5 Bulgar tribes that moved away from old Bulgaria:
  1. asparuh formed the Bulgarian empire
  2. kotrag formed Volga Bulgaria
  3. unnamed ruler went with longobard in northern italy( in city of bulgarograsso, translated as fat Bulgarian were found graves of soldiers buried with their horse, then only populations doing this were in the Asian steppes and Bulgar came from there
  4. unnamed ruler again with longobard but near Salerno in celle di bulgheria, this city is officially recognized with Bulgar origin and has Bulgarians as second language after Italian-English in the schools
  5. last kuber went first in Pannonia and later in Macedonia then the descendants joined the asprauh descendants
Make number 5 stay in pannonia and repel Magyars and we would have 2 solution:
  1. one modern Bulgaria going from Budapest to burgas
  2. an orthodox Bulgaria same as OTL but named South Bulgaria and the Other in the other taking the place of Hungarians and so catholic, named North Bulgaria
 

gurgu

Banned
Similar interesting possibilities could be Austro-Cumania, Austro-Khazaria, Austro-Bissenia, and Austro-Romania (western Vlach migration into Hungary).
not sure about the vlach, without the magyars to keep raiding/fighting the bulgarians there would have been a slow integration( the second bulgarian empire, the ruler was tsar of bulgarians and vlachs) so there won't be the modern Romania but only transilvania( populted from the romanized dacians)
 
This morning as I was waking up, in my dream I heard this strange word no details or context and thought it would make an interesting thread. I admit I know next to nothing here, so an Austro-Bulgarian Empire is it possible without ASB. If so how? What would this empire be like? The only thoughts I have in this matter is that this monstrosity would some what more powerful but much more unstable.
Maybe Bulgaria is Part of Austria Monarchy. Bulgars are granted privelige like Magyars. Austria-Hungary-Bulgarian Empire. But it could be hard with an Orthodox Nation. Maybe the Bulgars are incorporated Like Serbs, etc..
 
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