The ATL Automobiles & Automakers Thread.

[wilcoxchar]

Glad to see you good folks have been busy while I've been out:

@Wilcox: Nacogdoches is a nice town, but I seriously doubt it could ever come close to being a major metropolis.....Why not TTL's Waco or Austin instead?

Hmm, Austin (OTL Washington-on-the-Brazos and capital of Houston) would work.

 

[CaliBoy1990]

Hmm, Austin (OTL Washington-on-the-Brazos and capital of Houston) would work.

Probably so. It'd be pretty fitting, IMHO. Anyway, it's your choice, of course, but I hope you don't mind what was meant to be a helpful suggestion.

Also, anybody else here know about CarTest? I've been using it for a bit and I thought it'd be a great tool for anyone looking to create ATL automobiles of any kind and wanting to see how'd they perform in the real world; it's an old DOS program but it's free; the only thing you may need is DosBox(google it. I'd rather not link because the mods might think I'd be breaking the advertising rules) to run it.

 

[W.W.A.F.T.]

The Mondial V was Ferrari's first sedan, but it was a real Ferrari in every way possible, including the drivetrain from the FF and the engine from the 458 Italia.

the FF wasn't unveiled until 2011, and I thought the travel was in early 2010 (or did one get sent over in an update? in which case I'm squaking about nothing)

 

[YLi]

1. Timeline: Anne
2. Model Name/Manufacturer: Dacia 8400 MSP Dracul
3. Model Type: Hypercar
4. Model Year: 2012
5. Nation of Origin: Romania
6. Production run: 1975-Present
7. Engine: 7.0L, naturally aspirated flat 12
8. Horsepower: 915 hp @ 9500 rpm
9. Torque: 800 lb. ft. @ 6500 rpm
10. Drivetrain: AWD
11. Transmission: 8 speed Dacia Tiptronic
12. Weight: 1450kg (3197 lbs.)
13. Performance:
-0-100 km/h: 2.72s
-400m: 9.2s @ 165mph
-Skidpad: 1.21G
-Gas Mileage: 18 city/24 hwy (*)
-Top Speed: 225 mph

Description: This care is an absolute pleasure to drive on winding mountain roads in the Balkans. The 8400 Dracul Carpathian Edition adds a sequential super/turbocharger to the engine for high performance fun.

Needless to say, this thing is fast.

(*): At highway cruising speeds, 4 of the cylinders generally are not used.

OTL Equivalent: Lexus LFA on crystal meth.

MSRP: $650,000

 

[YLi]

1. Timeline: Anne
2. Model Name/Manufacturer: Ford GT
3. Model Type: Exotic Hypercar
4. Model Year: 2005
5. Nation of Origin: United States
6. Production run: 1963-Present
7. Engine: Twincharged 6.0L inverted Duratec V12.
8. Horsepower: 1100 hp @ 6500 rpm
9. Torque: 980 lb. ft. @ 4000 rpm
10. Drivetrain: AWD
11. Transmission: 7 speed dual clutch manual.
12. Weight: 1485 kg (3274 lb.)
13. Performance:
-0-100 km/h: 2.59s
-400m: 9.1s @ 166mph
-Skidpad: 1.25G
-Gas Mileage: 16 city/24 hwy
-Top Speed: 257 mph

Description: The Ford GT. Real American steel for real Capitalist Americans who wouldn't be caught dead driving in a Dacia, Zastava or GAZ. The Commies ain't got shit on Detroit. The GT features a unique, single piece quick-molded honeycombed carbon fiber body shell mated to aerospace grade titanium frame.

Best part is that this thing can be fixed up at any Ford dealership for a couple hundred bucks. No need to drive for hours to your local GAZ dealership.

OTL Equivalent: Ford GT with Hennessy Upgrade Package

MSRP: $350,000 (cheap huh?)

 

[TheMann]

Timeline: Rise of the North / In Defense of Humanity
Model Name: Lamborghini Countach Evolution
Manufacturer: Automobili Lamborghini
Model Type: Supercar
Model Year: 2019
Origin: Sant'Agata Bolognese, Emilia-Romagna, Italy
Production run: 2019-2020
Engine: 4.0-liter powercharged V12, multi-fuel capable
Power: 672 hp (gasoline), 706 hp (methanol), 753 hp (bio-ethanol)
Drivetrain: Mid-engined, rear wheel drive
Transmission: seven-speed dual-clutch semi-automatic transmission with paddle shift, developed and supplied by Linamar Visteon
Weight: 2,435 lbs
0-100 km/h: 3.4 seconds
Top Speed: 338 km/h (210 mph)
MSRP: $365,000

Description: A handful of Countach road cars from the factory in Italy were built when Lamborghini enthusiast Walter Wolf and racing legend Bobby Rahal were the first to reclaim the factory in 2016, but these were built to the order of a number of Lamborghini fanatics who wanted something different, and Lamborghini delivered, with a mildly-tuned Countach body hiding the absolute latest in technology - a carbon-fiber body with aerogel windows, a new interior with a modern digital projection dashboard, rear view cameras and blind spot watch system and most importantly, the drivetrain installed on later Lamborghinis, with a technological marvel engine.

Lamborghini's new four-liter V12 was developed by racing engine builder Jensen Auto Racing Engines in conjunction with electronics company Western Electric, metal castings maker Worthington Industries and auto parts maker Linamar Visteon. The engine is said to be one of the highest-tech internal combustion machines ever made, making one of the first uses of powercharging - electrically-driven superchargers. In addition the use of high-pressure gasoline direct injection, hydraulic valve timing and Miller cycle design allows the engine to get incredible fuel efficiency on any fuel, with this engine able to achieve 672 horsepower at 9,700 RPM running on gasoline, and yet achieve 37 miles to the gallon on light load cruising. In a car as light as the Countach Evolution, it makes for unbelievable performance - 0-60 mph in just 3.4 seconds (and only that slow because of severe problems with traction) and an electronically-limited top speed of 210 mph. Only 23 were made in 2019 and 2020, making it one of the rarest of all Lamborghinis.

 

[YLi]

1. Timeline: Anne
2. Model Name/Manufacturer: Hennessey Venom GT
3. Model Type: Exotic Hypercar
4. Model Year: 2012
5. Nation of Origin: United States
6. Production run: 1993-Present
7. Engine: Twincharged 6.4L Crowley Cycle Duratec Flat 12.
8. Horsepower: 1660 hp @ 6000 rpm
9. Torque: 1480 lb. ft. @ 3800 rpm
10. Drivetrain: AWD
11. Transmission: 9 speed automatic.
12. Weight: 700kg/1543 lb.
13. Performance:
-0-100 km/h: 1.29s
-400m: 6.68s @ 321mph
-Skidpad: 9G (*)
-Gas Mileage: 20/31 city/hwy (**)
-Top Speed: 350 mph (estimated)

Description: Unlike the Zastava Yugo, you do not need jet fuel to power this car. Unlike the Yugo, you do not need a jet engine mechanic to service the vehicle. Unlike the Zastava Yugo, this car is not slow.

Yes. This car, built in Houston, Texas by Hennessey Motor Works (a wholly owned subsidiary of Ford Motor Corporation) is faster than the Yugo.

It is manufactured entirely of a honeycombed carbon nanotube monocoque frame and bismaleimide thermoplastic composites, has a redline of 22000 rpm, has aerogel windows and honeycombed titanium axles reinforced with crystalline nano-steel threads. Even the transmission is built entirely from honeycombed single crystal superalloy structures to save weight.

There are no compromises to this car. And there will be no compromises for any driver. Everything else on the road is just too slow.

Must be custom ordered a year in advance. Cash up front only please.

(*): Fan car, can do more Gs, but might kill driver.
(**): ECU is awesome.

OTL Equivalent: Hennessey Venom GT

MSRP: $28 million.

 

[TheMann]

0-100 km/h: 1.29s

Holy f***. You are aware that to get to 100 km/h in 1.29s, it requires an acceleration rate of 21.53 m/s/s, which is equivalent to 2.2G of accelerative force, right?

-Skidpad: 9G (*)

This is even more insane. Nine Gs is sufficient force that it will kill many people from crushing their bone structures. A car capable of this in a hard turn is likely to result in broken bones against the doors.

 

[YLi]

This thing is pretty much a hyperexotic fan car in the same vein as the Red Bull X2010/X2011 seen in Gran Turismo 5. While it's impractical to say the least, anyone that can afford the 28 million dollar sticker price is likely not going to care at all about being practical. The driver has to wear a g-suit in order to operate the vehicle safely and the tires can't really take the strain of going so fast.

Being practical is not the point in any case. The Venom GT is entirely the result of American exceptionalism being taken to a ludicrous extreme. The designers of the car insisted that America has to make the fastest car, no matter the cost.

This was the result.

 

[TheMann]

^ Regardless of that, there is no way a car that can run on the road can achieve such speeds and G-forces, and even if it could, you would need extremely skilled drivers just to take them out of the driveway and nobody in their right mind would ever push them to the limit on the road.

 

[TheMann]

Timeline: Rise of the North / In Defense of Humanity
Model Name: Spyker C8 Aileron Roadster
Manufacturer: Spyker Cars
Model Type: High-Performance Sports Car
Model Year: 2022
Origin: Zandvoort, North Holland, Netherlands, Canada
Production run: 2022-2027
Engine: 4.7-liter Pontiac Magna V10
Power: 564 horsepower (gasoline), 592 horsepower (bio-ethanol)
Drivetrain: Mid-engined, rear wheel drive
Transmission: seven-speed dual-clutch semi-automatic transmission with paddle shift, developed and supplied by Linamar Visteon
Weight: 2,904 lbs
0-100 km/h: 3.6 seconds
Top Speed: 292 km/h (181 mph)
MSRP: $90,000

Timeline: Rise of the North / In Defense of Humanity
Model Name: Spyker C12 Zagato Performance
Manufacturer: Spyker Cars
Model Type: Supercar
Model Year: 2022
Origin: Zandvoort, North Holland, Netherlands, Canada
Production run: 2022-2028
Engine: 4.7-liter turbocharged Pontiac Magna V10
Power: 680 horsepower (gasoline), 730 horsepower (bio-ethanol)
Drivetrain: Mid-engined, all-wheel-drive using Haldex Traction drive system
Transmission: seven-speed dual-clutch semi-automatic transmission with paddle shift, developed and supplied by Linamar Visteon
Weight: 3,176 lbs
0-100 km/h: 3.2 seconds
Top Speed: 328 km/h (204 mph)
MSRP: $121,000

When Dutch automaker Spyker Cars began operations in 2016, the company started by refining examples of cars that had traveled - namely their C8 and C12 sports cars. The result was that the cars looked similar to pre-Doomsday cars on the outside, they were nothing like them underneath. Adding to that was the fact that the hypercar market was effectively becoming crowded with so many makers of such cars. To deal with this, Spyker priced its vehicles at far lower than the cost of many such vehicles and worked with parts producers to make the cost acceptable.

The C8 Aileron was the result. In an age of high-tech, the genuinely opulent interior and wild exterior stood out, and fitted with Magna engines and the same Linamar Visteon gearbox as the Aston Martin Victor and several Lamborghinis, built on top of a bonded aluminum chassis with carbonfibre bodywork and aerogel windows. The larger and pricier C12 uses a twin-turbocharged version of the Magna V10, and uses bodywork originally styled by Italian styling house Giugiaro, though with a few changes to smooth off the excesses of the design. Both cars are fitted with scissor-style doors and fabulous interiors with traditional gauges instead of common digital screens for data information. The C12 uses a highly-advanced Haldex Traction all wheel drive system to give the car excellent traction even less than ideal conditions.

 

[YLi]

^ Regardless of that, there is no way a car that can run on the road can achieve such speeds and G-forces, and even if it could, you would need extremely skilled drivers just to take them out of the driveway and nobody in their right mind would ever push them to the limit on the road.

It's possible, in theory at least. As long as you're at Bonneville or something.

At top speed, I'm more worried about the pavement than the car.

 

[TheMann]

It's possible, in theory at least. As long as you're at Bonneville or something.

A fan car at Bonneville is a recipe for disaster in itself. It would tear the surface to bits and cause massive clogging of salt in the chassis.

At top speed, I'm more worried about the pavement than the car.

A legitimate concern, but that at sort of speed you would also have to worry about the nose of the car getting up off the ground. If it does, that thing will take off like a bird in a Category 5 hurricane.

 

[YLi]

The whole fan car bit and AWD transmission should take care of the nose leaving the surface of the road. As I've stated before, I'm more worried about the generated downforce cracking the pavement, but that can be solved with the road surface being up to military airbase runway standards.

 

[YLi]

1. Timeline: Anne
2. Model Name/Manufacturer: First Automobile Works (FAW) SLS
3. Model Type: Supercar
4. Model Year: 2011
5. Nation of Origin: China
6. Production run: 1973-1994, 2000-
7. Engine: Twincharged 6.6L inverted V12.
8. Horsepower: 920 hp @ 9500 rpm
9. Torque: 850 lb. ft. @ 4000 rpm
10. Drivetrain: AWD
11. Transmission: 7 speed semi-automatic, dual clutch
12. Weight: 1320 kg/2910 lbs.
13. Performance:
-0-100 km/h: 2.70 seconds
-400m: 9.1s @ 166 mph
-Skidpad: 1.22g
-Gas Mileage: 18 city/ 24 hwy
-Top Speed: 245 mph

Description: Originally a shanzhai (imitation) version of the legendary Mercedes 300 SL, the First Automobile Works' SLS took on a life and character of its own. Supremely fast and confident, the SLS has a very smooth, civilized edge to it that's not found in Eastern European or American made supercars.

OTL Equivalent: Mercedes Benz SLS

MSRP: Free (if you happen to be a registered member of the Chinese Communist Party), otherwise it's $345,000

 

[YLi]

1. Timeline: Anne
2. Model Name/Manufacturer: Ford Taurus Police Interceptor
3. Model Type: Police Car
4. Model Year: 2010
5. Nation of Origin: USA
6. Production run: 1999-
7-9). See notes.
10. Drivetrain: AWD
11. Transmission: 6 or 7 speed semi automatic.
12. Weight: 1821kg (4015 lb)
13. Performance: (See notes)

Notes: The Taurus Police Interceptor comes in 3 configurations, patrol, response and road traffic pursuit.

The Patrol Edition has a 3.5L turbocharged V6 mated to an electric motor, which lets it get good gas mileage. The V6 and electric motor combo makes 360 hp and 450 lb/ft. of torque.

The Response Edition places a 5.6 liter supercharged V8 into the engine bay. This gives 730 hp and 680 lb/ft. of torque, which allows the vehicle to get from 0-60mph in under 3.3 seconds and gives it a top speed of over 180 mph.

The Road Traffic Pursuit Edition places the 6.0L inverted V-12 of the Ford GT into the car. This engine makes 1100 hp and 980 lb/ft. of torque, which allows for 0-60 time of less than 3 seconds and a top speed of over 200mph. The Pursuit vehicle is absolutely perfect for running down getaway cars and pursuing participants of illegal street races.

OTL Equivalent: This.

MSRP: Free, if you're a cop (taxpayer $$ cover it)

 

[CaliBoy1990]

Sorry I haven't posted in a while, guys.

Here's another post to get this moving again(no pun intended, btw )

(Also, all DoD and 'For Want of a Nail' entries are presumed canon unless stated otherwise).

1. TL of Origin: Timeline-191
2. Model Name/Manufacturer: National Motors Confederate MkI
3. Body Style: 2 door coupe or 4 door sedan.
4. Model Year: 1929
5. Place of Origin: Fort Worth, Texas, Confederate States of America.
6. Production run: 1924-32 (MkI), 852,000 units
7. Engine: 2672cc inline-4
8. Horsepower: 45 bhp @ 2500 rpm (1924-26) 62 bhp (1927-30), 66 bhp (1931-32)
9. Drivetrain: Front engine, Rear-wheel drive.
10. Transmission: 3 speed manual(discontinued 1932), 4 speed available in 1929.
11. Weight: 2551-2645 lbs. (coupe) 2781-2962 lbs. (sedan)
12. Top Speed: 60-78 mph.
13. Description: N.M.'s flagship automobile was one of the first mass-volume mass-produced vehicles in the C.S.A.'s history, and ironically, largely built by free labor, unlike most other Confederate autos of the time.
OTL Equivalent: Ford's Model T, and some contemporary Chevy models.

1. TL of Origin: Decades of Darkness
2. Model Name/Manufacturer: Halliburton American
3. Body Style: 2 door luxury coupe.
4. Model Year: 1959
5. Place of Origin: Hollytown, West Texas, U.S.
6. Production run: 1959-72
7. Engine: 5.9 litre OHV V-12
8. Horsepower: 313 bhp (1959-63), 348 bhp (1964-67), 362 bhp (1968-72)
9. Drivetrain: Front Engine, Rear Wheel Drive.
10. Transmission: 3 speed automatic(discontinued 1967), 4 speed automatic(available 1966 onwards)
11. Weight: 3758 lbs (MkI) 4145 lbs. (MkII) 3882 lbs. (MkIII)
Description: Texan businessman Walker Bush, Jr.[1] was a rare breed of man indeed; originally a genteel planter partly of old Yankee stock, raised on his father's plantation in East Texas. He who loved fast automobiles, exotic women and gourmet dishes and didn't mind smoking the occasional marijuana cigarette down in Mexico State while attending University there. While his semi-libertine attitudes and love of motorsports didn't endear him to some of his fellow elites, and certainly not the vast majority of *Eastern Planters[2], he didn't care much because all he was worried about having fun, and making the extra buck on the side.
In the late '40s Bush decided to try a career in auto racing. Although not the best of drivers he had the guts and the will, and in 1952 he actually won the Wilson Cup, though partly helped by good luck. After a nasty accident in Louisiana in November 1954, though, Bush swore off full-time racing and ran his last event in Illinois in October 1957. During that time, Walker began to capitalize on an old idea of his. He had always loved fast & luxurious automobiles, and owned dozens of models from around the world. But he could never find an American horst that suited his interests. So, in 1954, he got in touch with HoPar[3] founder John 'Jonny' Shelby and wealthy sportsman and motorsports aficionado Richard Cheney, and together, they began to plan the first stages creation of the company a year later. To boost his portfolio, Walker Bush also bought thousands of shares in the Whitman truck building company in 1956. It may not have been necessary but Walker felt it wouldn't hurt. On Christmas Eve, 1957, the company was incorporated as Halliburton Motors, LLC, after Walker Bush's favorite childhood hangout, his uncle Albert's ranch in West Texas, and in August 1958, Halliburton's American was introduced to showrooms nationwide. The horst received rave reviews from motoring journalists from many across the world(Australia being a notable exception), very rare for an American auto even in a time and day where free labor was becoming more and more prominent. In September 1963 the American was redesigned; some liked this new edgy look but others complained that it had lost some of its elegant flair. Nevertheless, it's performance and build quality were praised almost universally. Although the company's fortunes looked rather bright for the first 8 years of existance, things started to go downhill in 1965 after 17 Halliburton stockholders were caught swindling lower-level investors, most of them non-white[4]. The case had to go to the Supreme Court; they ruled in favor of the plaintiffs in February 1966. Halliburton managed to control the damage, and it seemed like things were better than ever by 1967. However, though, they couldn't have seen it coming: Certain events that occurred that year saw Whitman, and several other manufacturers across the nation, suddenly suffering a major shortage of workers. Unfortunately, Halliburton had been so intertwined with it's subsidiary that the company itself began to lose revenue. The final redesign and last increase in engine power occurred 1968; many were wowed by the body design and even more thrilled with the performance of the 3rd gen. American than the first. Sadly, though, this didn't save the company; Whitman was liquidated in 1970 and took over half of Halliburton's remaining assets with it. 2 years later, in November 1972, the Calvinia company from Salinas, Kansas, bought Halliburton, thus ending the first iteration of the American and, with it, the collaboration between Bush and Cheney[5].


OTL Equivalent: Various luxury cars.

[1]This guy's name may change if Jared requests I do that.

[2]Contrary to the opinions & wishes of some, TTL's America isn't going to be a libertine paradise......at least not in many places anyway.

[3]Basically a tribute to OTL's MoPar. Try to guess who I based Jonny Shelby on, btw.

[4]Well, this is DoD's America after all. Expect the more notably prejudiced amongst America's upper class to pull stunts like that.

[5]Things may change from time to time, btw. I may end up posting a version 2 on here sometime.

(P.S. Any off-topic discussion about DoD would be best done in the original story thread.)

 

[TheMann]

Timeline: Rise of the North / In Defense of Humanity
Model Name: BMW M1
Manufacturer: Bayerische Motoren Werke (Bavarian Motor Works)
Model Type: Supercar
Model Year: 2021
Origin: Berlin, Germany
Production run: 2020-2023
Engine: 3.0-liter V12
Power: 540 horsepower (gasoline), 585 horsepower (bio-ethanol)
Drivetrain: Mid-engined, rear wheel drive
Transmission: seven-speed dual-clutch semi-automatic transmission with paddle shift
Weight: 2,682 lbs
0-100 km/h: 3.7 seconds
Top Speed: 276 km/h (172 mph)
MSRP: $115,000

Description: BMW's cars don't get any hotter than this, period. The M1, built as a reboot of the Porsche-kicking 1970s original, was meant to be the range-topper in BMW's considerable lineup of both cars and motorcycles, and was designed from the start not to be a competitor in the high speed sweepstakes, but instead to be one of the purest driving machines out there, in keeping with BMW's ethos. The do this, the German-built M1 uses a new, high-compression V12, made from three of the S1000RR superbike engines and the gearbox of the M5 with shorter gears to handle the incredible 12,500 RPM rev limit. The combination of the rev-happy engine and fast-shifting (70 milliseconds) gearbox in the lightweight M1 was meant to be exhilarating, and when combined with the M1's chassis, often lauded as one of the best-handling cars ever made, meant for a car that in the hands of a good driver had few rivals and absolutely no equals as a driving machine. BMW had been aiming to blow its Canadian, Japanese and Commonwealth rivals into the weeds, and they did it quite nicely indeed....

 

[Petike]

1. Timeline: Better Weather, Less Revolutionary Bloodshed, More Indigestions - An Alternate History of the Kingdom of Hawaii
2. Model Name/Manufacturer: Archambault 4VT-PMF Dépendable
3. Model Types: 3 door or 5 door 4x4 delivery van (aka, a pemofi = French slang abbreviation for "petit motofiacre")
4. Model Year: what you'll see in the three pictures after this description are versions from the late 1960s and mid-to-late 1970s
5. Nation of Origin: The Kingdom of France
6. Production run: 1944-1988 (with numerous updates and facelifts)
7. Number built: 15 123 968
8. Engine: 470 cc H2
9. Horsepower: 20, 24, 28 hp (depending on the version)
10. Drivetrain: 4x4
11. Transmission: manual 3 speed (pre-1954 models) manual 4 speed (1952-1971 models), manual 5 speed (1971-1988)
12. Weight: OTL 615 kg
13. Description: A simple, inexpensive, durable, versatile and dependable delivery van version of the classic Archambault 4VT Bellerose passenger car. Outside of Europe (plants in France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Malta and Greece), it is also produced in several developing countries, where it is a an arguably even more popular "people's car". Many of these "tropical" versions are modified to run on lower-octane fuels or are converted to run specifically on various types of biodiesel (coconut oil being a favourite ingredient in these types of fuel). Of course, because of this, the Dépendable is extremely popular in the Kingdom of Kauai, where it belongs to one of the most frequently seen car models in general.
14. OTL equivalent: Citroen 2CV Camionette

A green-white Dépendable in the tropics.

Other Archambault cars:
Archambault 4VT Bellerose

 

[CaliBoy1990]

1. Timeline: Better Weather, Less Revolutionary Bloodshed, More Indigestions - An Alternate History of the Kingdom of Hawaii
2. Model Name/Manufacturer: Archambault 4VT-PMF Dépendable
3. Model Types: 3 door or 5 door 4x4 delivery van (aka, a pemofi = French slang abbreviation for "petit motofiacre")
4. Model Year: what you'll see in the three pictures after this description are versions from the late 1960s and mid-to-late 1970s
5. Nation of Origin: The Kingdom of France
6. Production run: 1944-1988 (with numerous updates and facelifts)
7. Number built: 15 123 968
8. Engine: 470 cc H2
9. Horsepower: 20, 24, 28 hp (depending on the version)
10. Drivetrain: 4x4
11. Transmission: manual 3 speed (pre-1954 models) manual 4 speed (1952-1971 models), manual 5 speed (1971-1988)
12. Weight: OTL 615 kg
13. Description: A simple, inexpensive, durable, versatile and dependable delivery van version of the classic Archambault 4VT Bellerose passenger car. Outside of Europe (plants in France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Malta and Greece), it is also produced in several developing countries, where it is a an arguably even more popular "people's car". Many of these "tropical" versions are modified to run on lower-octane fuels or are converted to run specifically on various types of biodiesel (coconut oil being a favourite ingredient in these types of fuel). Of course, because of this, the Dépendable is extremely popular in the Kingdom of Kauai, where it belongs to one of the most frequently seen car models in general.
14. OTL equivalent: Citroen 2CV Camionette

A green-white Dépendable in the tropics.

Well, I'll be......thanks for the contribution, Petike, I thought most people might have forgotten about this thread by now.