The Area 51 guys ask help to you.

Well,the truth is that the interdimensional portal is a partial success.
three hundred million of dollars...and the portal remained open only four minuts before collapse..:(
but something is passing.
Is a strange card,and we at Area 51 not understand much...
So the idea is ask help to a alternate history forum.
So..what story tells this card?

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The Vulture

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With the amount of time you've been on this forum, one would think you'd have learned not to waste everyone's time like this, yet you persist in doing so.
 
How could California end up as part of British North America? The Texans would have surely taken that land when they took the Southwest.
 
How could California end up as part of British North America? The Texans would have surely taken that land when they took the Southwest.

Despite this thread being rather... well, I'm going to answer this question:

Quite easily. If Britain went to war with Spain, Texas could go for a revolution during that. The British would take California for whatever resources it had (gold, maybe?) and the Texans could have whatever they could grab.
 
I just dont see how its possible to get a UK-owned NA AND a French-owned Quebec.
Remember Quebec was captured well before the American revolution. Since the Britihs either headed this off or won it (by the map), how on earth does France get Quebec back??? By the time the anglo-french wars end, Britain is far too powerful for France to win a battle in NA.
An independant Quebec I could buy, a French owned one is going to require some really creative AH.....!!!
 

perfectgeneral

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If you can imagine an independent Quebec, you are halfway there. At a later date Quebec joins France by popular vote.
 
Well,the truth is that the interdimensional portal is a partial success.
three hundred million of dollars...and the portal remained open only four minuts before collapse..:(
but something is passing.
Is a strange card,and we at Area 51 not understand much...
So the idea is ask help to a alternate history forum.
So..what story tells this card?

You're silly, mister.
 
Make it a bit more serious.
So:
Premise:
A timeline in which American revolution not happen (or in which we have a "The two Georges" solution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Two_Georges )
and in which we have:
1-An huge indipendent texan Republic
2-An semi-indipendent (from Spain) New Spain (Mexico,and Central America)
3-A French semi-indipendent Louisiana (in this timeline without American Revolution French Revolution not happen and French become a constitutional Monarchy).
Questions:

1-More probably California is part of Texas Repubblic or of British North American Commonwealth?

2-Can Texas buy Alaska or is more probable that is sold to British?

3-Without Napoleon,the French sold all Louisiana http://willswordsofwisdom.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/louisiana_purchase_treaty_agreement.jpg
or is more probable that take a part?

4-Quebec is with all probability British?
 
I'm not entirely sure where the angry denouncements come from, but will answer a few in my humble opinions

-1- Alaska was initially valuable as a furs and whaling place, and Kodiak Island was important in this. Over time of course, the trappers spread out Southwards as they depleted more Northern populations, then came the Klondike and the discovery of gold. Now, that might seem to indicate a huge reason for Russia to have the lower West coast, but it is also a huge reason for Britain to fight to keep them out/boot them out. A war over the Klondike could well explain the Alaskan border on this map.

-2- California is not linked by land to anywhere in particular, except of course Baja which is rather negligible. There are great mountains all around the place, and getting there from the East in OTL was a nightmare. Even Texas owning the territory on the map gives them no greater shot at California. In addition, California had its own population, and its own administrative history. Its not about to merge with Texas without being conquered, which is pretty much not going to happen.

Britain on the other hand has a great advantage - not so much the territorial contiguity from Oregon, as the access from the sea. In OTL, the USA gained control of California not because of the patrols penetrating from the East (which were late, beat up and had to fight their way in) but because of the marines landed from the sea. If Britain wants California, it is in a much better position to take it from the sea.

-3- Quebec would be more confusing but does not need to be impossible. No Seven Years War, and British penetration from the 13 colonies Westwards could well mean that when a war does happen it is the prize of the (Old) North-West that is important and Quebec can be by-passed

Best Regards
Grey Wolf
 
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