Jack Brisco
Banned
Support North Vietnam
Better yet, after WWII tell the French they were not to come back and let the Vietnamese work out their own destiny.
Support North Vietnam
No such thing is guaranteed. The timeline of events shifted by even 2-3 years could flip things drastically. NV sources are scarce, but the idea of a successful invasion was not considered a done deal in Hanoi.
This is just nonsense. Why do you assume that SV leadership wanted peace then ?
It is just bad. Looks good, but still bad.I’m mainly going by the Ken Burns series
Rejecting peace was their position, Nixon or not. For a complete explanation look at David T's post on this.but the Nixon campaign interfered in the talks to bolster his campaign by way of ensuring a Democrat didn’t secure peace.
Not exactly. Badly mauled and their lower cadres went to ground so that they could no longer operate against SV forces.there was no more VC
No such thing is guaranteed. The timeline of events shifted by even 2-3 years could flip things drastically. NV sources are scarce, but the idea of a successful invasion was not considered a done deal in Hanoi.
This is just nonsense. Why do you assume that SV leadership wanted peace then ?
This is both wrong and irrelevant, LOL. By the time the US was in the thick of it Ho Chi Minh had been sidelined.
In 1945 the US did not care much about SE Asia, why would they stick their noses in French affairs ?
Mine the Harbors, bust the Red River dams, and do Linebacker II level bombing in 1965, and dare the Soviets and China start WWIII over it.
They won't risk it.
While that is going on, build up the local RL/PF forces sooner over ARV, while a Phoenix Program gets started early.
Assassinate Prince Sihanouk for his glee on hearing JFK was shot.
Will it be pretty?
Not at all.
But probably cut supply to VC and PAVN will be in no shape to assist them across the DMZ, and Cambodia will play out far different than OTL
Better yet, after WWII tell the French they were not to come back and let the Vietnamese work out their own destiny.
Actually that much isn't so true. Edward Miller's "Religious Revival and the Politics of Nation Building: Reinterpreting the 1963 ‘Buddhist crisis’ in South Vietnam" is a pretty good article on the topic if you can find it.The problem with Diem that cannot be overlooked, is that he was rabidly Catholic and oppressed the Buddhist population, which was the majority of the South Vietnamese population.
And as far as his nationalist credentials are considered, it would be good to remember that he was no French lackey. French loss in the North did not mean that they had been turned out in the South, it was left for Diem to do that.Actually that much isn't so true. Edward Miller's "Religious Revival and the Politics of Nation Building: Reinterpreting the 1963 ‘Buddhist crisis’ in South Vietnam" is a pretty good article on the topic if you can find it.
And as far as his nationalist credentials are considered, it would be good to remember that he was no French lackey. French loss in the North did not mean that they had been turned out in the South, it was left for Diem to do that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proclamation_of_Independence_of_the_Democratic_Republic_of_Vietnam
i think so too. Once Ho declares independence fully support Vietnamese people and not the french. The US had sympathy for fighting the Japs and history of being a former colony. This will likely cause the french to considerably be more anti-american(perhaps as even neutral in the cold war) but it will insure the US would not lose the Vietnam war.
How did Churchill con the US into protecting his empire ?While Churchill conned us into protecting his empire
How did Churchill con the US into protecting his empire ?
Honestly Diem on his own wouldn't be too bad, Nhu and Thuc (and of course Madam Nhu) not only influenced him but occasionally went behind his back to create problems. Rather than OTL's policy of ignoring how the country is being run and then sponsoring a coup when someone burns themself alive, the US would probably be best off pressuring Diem to take a more confrontational line with his family. On his own Diem could probably have been a Syngman Rhee type figure (a tyrant who only pays lip service to democracy, but also roots out the domestic communists and builds a cohesive if not quite stable nation), and that would probably be about as good as the US was going to get.And of course then there was Diem and Nhu, and The Dragon Lady . . . (You've got to be a real piece of shit when your own father follows you around the USA and warns people that you are a psychopath.)
"Viet Minh" (which loosely translates to "The Enlightened Vietnamese
All of this assumes that Americans had no brains of their own.
Actually, this is a small mistake, "Viet Minh" is short for "Viet Nam Doc lap Dong minh Hoi" or "The League for the Independence of Vietnam". It should also be noted that the translation of "The League" (in the name) is the same as "The Allies" (as in the Allies faction of World War 2). "The Enlighted" is present within the name of "Ho Chi Minh" though.