The American Stinky Pig: Or, Not ANOTHER American Domesticates TL!

Yes, I know. I'm not the first person to propose this idea on these boards. However, the idea of Native Americans having more widespread domesticates is one that really intrigues me, and I thought I'd give it a shot as a timeline. This is my first timeline, so constructive criticism is very welcome! You probably know more than me about Native American ethnography and history, so don't be afraid to jump in with advice/facts.


PART I: DOMESTICATION AND SPREAD OF THE PECCARY

POD: 3,000,000 BC: Genetic changes occur in peccaries moving on the new land bridge to South America. Perhaps the change is due to random genetic mutation. Perhaps some individuals die out or survive who wouldn’t have IOTL, butterflying the species genetics. Perhaps aliens alter their genes for a laugh. Whatever the cause, the peccary ITTL is a very different animal from the one we know. They are hierarchical, less prone to (but still capable of) violence but they maintain their gregarious nature. They become, in other terms, ideal for human domestication.


20,000 BC: By the time humans actually arrive to the Americas, peccaries have split into 4 species.
1. The scrub peccary, too hierarchical to be bred on a large scale and confined to the scrublands of South America
2. The white lipped peccary, living in the jungles of South and Central America and amenable to domestication,
3. The collared peccary, also amenable to domestication and much, much more adaptable and versatile than either of its cousins. It also produces a strong musk when frightened.
4. The long-legged peccaries of the North American plains. They may or may not have been domesticable, but would be extinct by 10,000 BC, so the point is moot.



Like many animals the peccaries would also harbor potentially zoonotic diseases. In addition to spreading Leptospirosis and corona-virus related colds, which would become common nuisance-diseases, they harbored germs that would become plagues. These plagues would change the face of American civilizations, probably more so than the peccaries themselves, and would alter the destiny of the whole world.




3,500 BC: Agriculture becomes fully established as a food source in Central America, the Andes, and Amazonia. Having a constant source of food allows farmers in Central America and Amazonia to domesticate the white-lipped and collared peccaries, which like pigs were not creatures particularly well-suited to pastoralism. Their constant close contact with peccaries would produce lethal consequences for the hapless farmers in the jungles.



A Note from a Major Player in this Unfolding Drama

We are many. And we hunger.

For millions of years, we lived in the blood of the peccaries and the mouths of mosquitoes. As long as there was water for the mosquitoes, all was well.

When the humans took the peccaries into their villages, we found ourselves in their blood-a new and alien place for us. So many of us died, not able to understand and use this new place. But a few of us survived. That was enough.

The humans became another feast for us. Many we killed too quickly. But we learned to keep them alive and they learned to fight us off, long enough for us to move from our new hosts to the mosquitoes and back again.

We hunger. And you are our food.



3,000 BC: River fever becomes widespread in Amazonia and Central America, the mosquitoes of the jungle spreading the disease from human to human. A relative of Yellow and Dengue fever viruses from the Old World, it becomes endemic to the American mainland tropics.

 
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in this case, I'd say no, since the POD is over in the New World, and would have no affect at all on human evolution...

Which is why I chose peccaries. Screwing around with the genetics of caribou, east Asian sheep, and Asian bison (which became the North American megafauna we're all familiar with) would create butterflies in the old world and would affect human pre-history.
 
Very interesting. I will be following this. However...

A Note from a Major Player in this Unfolding Drama

We are many. And we hunger.

For millions of years, we lived in the blood of the peccaries and the mouths of mosquitoes. As long as there was water for the mosquitoes, all was well.

When the humans took the peccaries into their villages, we found ourselves in their blood-a new and alien place for us. So many of us died, not able to understand and use this new place. But a few of us survived. That was enough.

The humans became another feast for us. Many we killed too quickly. But we learned to keep them alive and they learned to fight us off, long enough for us to move from our new hosts to the mosquitoes and back again.

We hunger. And you are our food.
lolwut, diseases can't talk
(it just seems odd to write something from the disease's perspective because this isn't in the ASB forum)
 
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itd be badass if they bred giant-paccaries and rode them into battle:D

also, i'm guessing this early exposure to disease from domesticated animals allows the natives to fight off european diseases later on in history. do you think that the domestication of this species will lead to the domestication of other species, like bison? it'd be only a little more likely, only because the natives would have more guts to do so.
 
This is going to have huge impacts (mothra-sized butterflies) on the development of the Americas :eek: We're going to see, at a glance and off the top of my head, larger, more urban, more populous, more organized, and further spread native civilizations. This in turn would affect politics, religion, technology, economics... :eek:

Basically, this would not simply be OTL + American pigs leads to American diseases spreading through Europe. Though that's possible, by the time the Europeans (if everything in the Old World follows OTL) make first contact, the Americas would be populated by very large, very advanced, and very well-established civilizations. Easily later bronze or early iron age in many areas, instead of early/late copper age being the most advanced settlements.
 
The Rise and Spread of Civilization

1,500 BC: The Olmec civilization begins to develop in the lowlands of Central America. Born in the Central American equivalent of a fertile crescent, this large civilization would set the tone for future Mesoamerican civilizations, their artwork and religion a cultural blueprint for others to follow. America’s first cities also give rise to plagues-at first, localized diseases that broke out in the Olmec cities and then disappeared, infections caused by Leptospiral and E. coli bacteria jumping across species. But crowd diseases would eventually rise.

1,400 BC: In Peru, peccary pens begin to appear further and further higher in the Andes. New designs of intricate woodwork meant to keep the peccaries close together (and therefore warm) during the cold nights allows peccary farming to develop at higher and higher altitudes. The Andean peoples would come to rely heavily on peccary meat so they could devote more of their llamas and alpacas to wool production.

1,000 BC: The shedding cough from white-lipped peccaries appeared in the Olmec cities around this time, a relatively small but still devastating plague that wiped out a significant portion of their population. These diseases would also go on to kill a large number of the Olmec’s imprinting itself in Mesoamerican culture. This mark was probably most obviously in its effect on religion. The widespread disease and fear of death that this created led to the creation of the “dark twin” cosmology that would become prevalent in all Mesoamerican civilizations. The Rain God who brought life giving rain would be paired with the Thunder God, whose lightning brought fear and who rained death on the wicked. The Feathered Serpent God of fertility would be paired with his sister (sometimes wife, sometimes both) the Venomous Serpent, who was responsible for the mysterious deaths of infants that she as an infertile woman could never have. The gods of the underworld became ruled by a royal monarchy, the Skull God and his wife the Midwife Goddess. The Skull god brought disease and war. His wife released souls from the underworld to be born or reborn. These gods would become the principle gods of all civilizations in the Mesoamerican region, a sort of polytheistic dualism between the givers and takers of life.

While the shedding cough swept through Mesoamerica and moved southward, the people of the Altiplano plateau in the Andes were developing new methods of peccary husbandry. Keeping peccaries behind fences was both a necessity and a nightmare for American farmers. They were incredibly destructive towards gardens when released and unsupervised. But when fenced, they sometimes would be panicked by the smell of predatory animals, or fights would break out between within the herds, or they would get scent of some food they wanted. Whenever this happened, it tended to end with the whole lot of peccaries running against the fences that contained them, sometimes breaking out. Other times, they would scramble over each-other’s backs, forming a pyramid that allowed them to get over fences. As relatively small animals, they needed fences with little open space between posts that took up a lot of wood and time to make.
It was probably all these frustrations that lead to incensed paleo-Altiplano farmers to develop a new way of building peccary pens. They used copper for nails.
Primitive metallurgy had already been established in South America, but the idea of using metals for practical use was revolutionary. It was also effective. Copper nails could create strong fences in far less time than using only stone tools to shape wood. From there, it was a very short leap to begin creating copper tools to shape wood. Over an 800 year period, the South American Copper Age, Copper tools spread throughout the Altiplano region and to the Pacific Coast, where already existing civilizations would adapt and refine the metallurgy of the Andean farmers.

200 BC: The Apeca civilization develops on the Pacific coast of South America. So named for one of their principle gods, Ai Apec the Decapitator, they were a disparate group of polities that spent most of their time warring with each-other, looking for captives of war for the purpose of sacrifice or trying to control trade routes with the Nazca people to their south. Although only one of several nascent civilizations on the coast, it would be the Apeca who would revolutionize American civilization.

AD 0: A new weapon forged in the Apeca city-state of Llampayec. Like all metalsmiths in South America at the time, the Llampayecs were eager to explore new alloys. Mixtures of gold and silver or gold and copper were quite common. Slightly less common was the use of alloys for practical purposes-copper was precious, and divided between jewelry for the elites and tools for craftsmen and commoners. Elites paid more for copper jewelry, which may have delayed experimentation with copper alloys for the purpose of tools. Nonetheless, the smiths of Llampayec managed to stumble upon a way to create new and better tools: a copper-arsenic alloy. Originally created to make silver-colored copper, the metalsmiths noticed that this particular alloy was hard enough for use as tools. When they experimented by creating blades using their new formula, they found that they had created something that was strong enough to cut through wood and stay sharp, break the soil in gardens, and butcher animals-or people.
The elites and the common people had finally found a compromise: an alloy that looked beautiful but had practical use, and importantly, one that could be used for military conquest, giving jobs for the commoners and glory for the elites.

22 AD: A new lord comes to power through a coup d’etat in Llampayec. Known as Silver Ocelot, he had ambitions for his city state which could be realized through the new metals. He was the first lord to organize an army using the new bladed weaponry rather than clubs, and over the course of his campaign he invented the military use of the helmet when his own ceremonial bronze hat saved his life during an assassination attempt.
The Llampayec Empire was not a very well organized empire, however. It mostly consisted of a tribute system, where the elites of other Apeca city states within would simply send a percentage of their wealth every year to Llampayec and were obliged to open their borders to Llampayec merchants. This trade would spread copper across the Apeca city states and to their neighbors, who would experiment with their own new uses for bronze and techniques for smelting.

100 AD: In the city of Tollan, located in the valley of the North Mountains (as the lowland Central American civilizations called OTL’s Valley of Mexico), a public health problem develops. The city’s massive population requires large amounts of peccary meat, but the large presence of peccaries in the city was resulting in their dung getting everywhere. The high priest of the city, Moon Rabbit, decided to end the problems caused by the free-roaming herds, and ordered the appropriation of many of the peccaries. They were essentially “nationalized” by the city government and moved into large, common holding pens. This caused great distress to the city’s commoners, but they felt powerless against the proclamation of a high priest. Keeping the peccaries penned up, however, proved to be ultimately lethal for the peccaries and the city itself.
In these crowded conditions, a new disease broke out among the peccaries. A respiratory illness, the bleeding fever, caused by viruses related to the hemorrhagic viruses of rodents killed off almost the entire population of the city’s peccaries, before starting on the people of Tollan themselves. Within months, the city was emptied as its inhabitants fled, unwittingly carrying the disease across the trade networks in Central America. The disease would work its way downward into South America, leaving a trail of devastation in its wake and ending the Llampayec Empire.
It would also work major changes on the culture in Mesoamerica. Human sacrifice was ended as a practice around this time: the plague disrupted religious organizations too much (especially since they now failed on their promise to heal the people), and made humans too scarce a resource for sacrifice. The disruption to society also resulted in a major change in the writing systems of the descendent civilizations of the Olmecs. The small number of scribes available to teach complex letters, and the lack of manpower to carve hieroglyphs into rocks meant that the alphabets had to be simplified. The beautiful pictures that once constituted the syllabaries of the Mesoamericans became more abstract squares, circles, and ovals, drawn together in different combinations. These new alphabets were easier to learn, teach, and write down, and would expand literacy in Mesoamerican society. The peccaries would help here as well: their skin provided useful ‘paper’ for the Mesoamericans, and countless notes, maps, myths, and records would be written onto peccary skin and stored in the libraries of large population centers.

200 AD: Corn and peccaries are successfully introduced from Central to North America, along with the bleeding fever, river fever, and shedding cough. Although at the time corn was not the great foodstuff it would later be bred to be, it was still enthusiastically adopted by the natives of the north. The death toll caused by the Mesoamerican disease cultures depopulated large portions of North America, opening up land for settlement by new corn farmers. It was for this reason that the Caddoan speaking peoples west of the Mississippi river spread to cover most of the southeast. They farmed corn earlier, and were able to recover from the depopulation caused by diseases faster. With land emptied by the Mesoamerican plagues, they were able to advance westward towards the Atlantic. With trade networks disrupted, they had nothing to do but advance: in many cases, they had no-one to trade corn with, and so they sought to take abandoned land or appropriate it from weakened rival societies in order to increase their wealth.
Their expansion was patchwork, however. Many people survived the onset of the diseases and began to recover. Some lived as hunter gatherers or part time hunters and part time farmers in land less suitable for farming corn, trading, intermarrying, and fighting with the Caddoan farmers. Others added the corn brought by the Caddoan people to the crops they already farmed, often adapting the Caddoan languages with it.
 
Yup, wall of text. I'm going to need to raid google image search a little. But first, some answers and clarifications:

Xwarq: As you've probably guessed, this thread is more or less a Jared Diamond fanfic. The diseases are important for that: It's important to look at things from their perspective:p

Errnge:It would be totally badass if they bred giant peccaries for that purpose! Like something out of a Warhammer Orc army. As fun as that would be, though, I don't think it's going to happen.
As for bison, I don't think they're really domesticable without horses (or giant peccaries). They're dangerous and unpredictable animals, not to mention devilishly fast. It seems possible to ranch them, but they can't be raised like cattle.

wolf-brother: Americans+pigs does change a lot of things, but not that much. Peccaries aren't raised for their milk, and without animal milk to wean their babies early, American civilizations will have a lower birthrate than Europeans. Also, the peccaries cannot be raised out of the presence of heavy agriculture. They aren't grazers like sheep, and eat many of the foods that humans eat. In other words, they compete with their keepers for food. Unless there's a lot of excess food, the kind that can only be achieved with Meso and South American crops, Peccaries aren't going to be kept. Crops diffused very slowly across the Americas IOTL, and domestic peccaries cannot speed that process up.
 
I like the different diseases' names but it is a bit odd to read about things happening in America and Peru and so forth, especially given the obscure etymology of the word Peru.

Some of the changes seem rather quick to me or rather lucky, like the plagues causing simpler language.

Those things said - looking good!

Just a thought, maybe we could see some court peccary breeds that reach that vary a great deal from the natural color schemes.

Peccary-babies.jpg


D'awww.
 
Like many animals the peccaries would also harbor potentially zoonotic diseases. In addition to spreading Leptospirosis and corona-virus related colds, which would become common nuisance-diseases, they harbored germs that would become plagues. These plagues would change the face of American civilizations, probably more so than the peccaries themselves, and would alter the destiny of the whole world.​

Great, another Vlad Tepes.
 
Whanztastic raises a very good point; OTL only five animals were domesticated in the Americas, and one of them (the dog) was domesticated long before people were in the Americas, so it hardly counts. With an ATL sixth species domesticated, would this lead to a trend of more species? Especially in Mesoamerica, were the only domesticates were the dog and the turkey.

Also, nitpick: I'm not sure how a disease in upper Central America could spread so far south as to reach an ATL Andean society. There was no, zero, zilch, nada, contact between the only two OTL wellsprings of 'civilization' in the Americas, and I don't see peccary domestication suddenly changing that. Perhaps later (much later) we might see seafaring trade from the Caribbean to the mouth of the Amazon, or from the Pacific coasts of the Andes to those of Mesoamerica - but there's never going to be an overland route for disease-ridden people to spread by. Too much jungle, too many mountains, and no reason or will to even attempt to try.
 
Also, nitpick: I'm not sure how a disease in upper Central America could spread so far south as to reach an ATL Andean society. There was no, zero, zilch, nada, contact between the only two OTL wellsprings of 'civilization' in the Americas, and I don't see peccary domestication suddenly changing that. Perhaps later (much later) we might see seafaring trade from the Caribbean to the mouth of the Amazon, or from the Pacific coasts of the Andes to those of Mesoamerica - but there's never going to be an overland route for disease-ridden people to spread by. Too much jungle, too many mountains, and no reason or will to even attempt to try.

disease spread in such a manner when the spaniards landed in mesoamerica, so why not beforehand?

also, maybe llamas could be bred into something like horses and traded further north? if people become more conscious of breeding in the americas like they did in the old world, there could be some interesting animal diffusions, and a lot of variation in taxonomy from what we know today. i know llama cavalry sounds a little silly, but llamas are very similar to camels, so it actually isnt that much of a stretch if the proper breeding is applied. another breed of peccary or llama or alpaca could become something like old world sheep and herded on the great plains, expanding native civilization into an area that was largely untouched by humans until horses were reintroduced.
 
I like this TL! I don't have too many comments, but it's very interesting to me. I want to see where it goes. Keep posting!
 
Also, nitpick: I'm not sure how a disease in upper Central America could spread so far south as to reach an ATL Andean society. There was no, zero, zilch, nada, contact between the only two OTL wellsprings of 'civilization' in the Americas, and I don't see peccary domestication suddenly changing that. Perhaps later (much later) we might see seafaring trade from the Caribbean to the mouth of the Amazon, or from the Pacific coasts of the Andes to those of Mesoamerica - but there's never going to be an overland route for disease-ridden people to spread by. Too much jungle, too many mountains, and no reason or will to even attempt to try.
I'm not so sure about that. This is an area i'm very interested in, so i've ordered a few ILL books. Right now, i'm finding that there was an Ecuadorian culture called the Manteno that used large balsa rafts to trade with western Mexico.

Denemark, Robert Allen; el al. (2000). World System History: The Social Science of Long-Term Change. Routledge. ISBN 0415232767

Encyclopedia of Prehistory: Middle America
Peter Neal Peregrine, Melvin Ember, Human Relations Area Files, inc
 
I am curious about whether or not there was a fair amount of human civilization in the Amazon basin, as has been suggested by recent work, and if there was a small, domesticated animal, such as the stinky pig, if that would have any impact on them?

I am not up on the whole debate but with their new line of argument it seems plausible that a new paradigm of American civilization (beyond the Peruvian, Central American, North American one) could be assisted by the peccary, one that flourished at the mouth of the Amazon or even further in.

Is their any substance to these recent claims?

EDIT: I don't mean to sidetrack conversation so early in the game, just a random thought. This TL is off to a strong start, IMO. Also, I too am a Diamond fan.
 
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