The American Dominion PM Collaborative List

Moore2012

Banned
LBJ would be Labor, as well as Pelosi and Hart. Obama would be Lib Dem.

BTW, cut down on the Torywankery, please. BTW, Lincoln was in no shape or form a conservative, neither was Seward.

LBJ was from the left wing of the Lib Dem's since Labor was not strong in his part of Texas. Hart and Pelosi are Lib Dems because that is seen as the only way to become PM. Labor is seen as to radical to win a general election.

Lincoln and Seward where "One Nation" conservatives who greatly admired Disreali. Lincoln visited Disreali in London in 1872, becoming the first American Prime Minister to visit Westminster while in office.
 
1) Why do the party names have to stay the same as in the UK? It hasn't necessarily been the same in other Dominions.

2) How about a list of Governor Generals? Some are going to be important, especially in the early years.

It will be interesting to see how long it is before he majority of GGs are locally born.
 

Moore2012

Banned
List of President-Generals of North America

Jeffery Amherst, 1st Baron Amherst (1766-1774)
Richard Howe, 1st Earl Howe (1774-1782)
Thomas Gage, 1st Baron Gage (1782-1784)
William Howe, 5th Viscount Howe (1784-1793)
Charles Grey, 1st Earl Grey (1793-1806)
Alexander Hamilton, 1st Viscount Hamilton (1806-1816)
Sir James Madison (1816-1826)
John C. Calhoun, 1st Earl of Charleston (1826-1847)
James Bruce, 8th Earl of Elgin (1847-1855)
Winfield Scott, 1st Earl of Chippawa (1855-1866)
Sir Robert E. Lee, 3rd Earl of Arlington (1866-1870), died in office
Sir William Seward (1870-1872), died in office
Sir Joseph Johnston (1872-1876)
Frederick Stanley, 16th Earl of Derby (1876-1885)
Prince George, 2nd Duke of Cambridge (1885-1895)
Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught (1895-1920)
Sir John J. Pershing (1920-1930)
Sir Herbert Hoover (1930-1950)
Douglas MacArthur, 1st Duke of Manila (1950-1960)
Dwight Eisenhower, 1st Duke of Pointe du Hoc (1960-1965)
Adlai Stevenson (1965), died in office
Robert F. Kennedy (1965-1985)
Sir Howard Baker (1985-1990)
George Bush, 1st Earl of Kennebunkport, (1990-2000)
Sir Colin Powell (2000-2010)
Sir John McCain (2010-present)
 

Moore2012

Banned
1973 General Election

Conservative: 386 seats (+36) Led by Richard Nixon
Liberal Democratic: 287 seats (-31) Led by Hubert Humphrey

Labor: 58 seats (+8) Led by George McGovern
Libertarian: 7 seats (+7) Led by Barry Goldwater
American Independent: 27 seats (-20) Led by George Wallace
Total: 765 / Senate-130 (2 per province) House of Representatives-635 seats

Resulting Prime Minister: Richard Nixon (Conservative-American Independent coalition) Total: 413 seats. Majority of 61
Resulting Opposition Leader: Hubert Humphrey (Liberal Democratic) Total: 287 seats.
 
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Moore2012

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1970 General Election

Conservative: 350 seats (-27) Led by Richard Nixon
Liberal Democratic: 318 seats (+9) Led by Hubert Humphrey

Labor: 50 seats (-12) Led by Eugene McCarthy
American Independent: 47 seats (+30) Led by George Wallace
Total: 765 / Senate-130 (2 per province) House of Representatives-635 seats

Resulting Prime Minister: Richard Nixon (Conservative-American Independent coalition) Total: 397 seats. Majority of 29
Resulting Opposition Leader: Hubert Humphrey (Liberal Democratic) Total: 318 seats.
 
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Moore2012

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1967 General Election

Conservative: 377 seats (+91) Led by Richard Nixon
Liberal Democratic: 309 seats (-132) Led by Lyndon Johnson
Labor: 62 seats (+24) Led by Eugene McCarthy
American Independent: 17 seats (+17) Led by George Wallace
Total: 765 / Senate-130 (2 per province) House of Representatives-635 seats

Resulting Prime Minister: Richard Nixon (Conservative) Total: 377 seats. Minority of 11
Resulting Opposition Leader: Lyndon Johnson (Liberal Democratic) Total: 309 seats.
 
LBJ was from the left wing of the Lib Dem's since Labor was not strong in his part of Texas. Hart and Pelosi are Lib Dems because that is seen as the only way to become PM. Labor is seen as to radical to win a general election.

Lincoln and Seward where "One Nation" conservatives who greatly admired Disreali. Lincoln visited Disreali in London in 1872, becoming the first American Prime Minister to visit Westminster while in office.
And Obama? He is in no shape or form a Labor man! Tell you what, I'll do an different list.
 
01: Benjamin Franklin (Crossbencher) 1781-1789
02: Thomas Jefferson (Nationalist) 1789-1802
03: John Adams (American) 1802-1809
04: Joseph Bloomfield (Nationalist) 1809-1816
05: William Crawford (American) 1816-1820
06: Henry Clay (Progressive) 1820-1834
07: Alexandre Mouton (Nationalist) 1834-1838
08: David Campbell (Conservative) 1838-1843
09: Myron H. Clark (Progressive) 1843-1857
10: Ashbel P. Willard (Conservative) 1857-1860
11: Gustav Koerner (Conservative) 1860-1862
12: Abraham Lincoln (Progressive) 1862-1869
13: Schuyler Colfax (Progressive) 1869-1872
14: Thomas A. Hendricks (Conservative) 1872-1877
15: James G. Blaine (Progressive) 1877-1882
16: Samuel J. Tilden (Conservative) 1882-1886
17: John Macdonald (Conservative) 1886-1890
18: Adlai Stevenson I (Progressive) 1890-1902
19: Joseph G. Cannon (Progressive) 1902-1909
20: Wilfrid Laurier (Progressive) 1909-1915
21: Robert Borden (Conservative) 1915-1923
22: Arthur Meighen (Conservative) 1923-1928
23: Henry S. Breckinridge (Conservative) 1928-1933
25: Upton Sinclair (Social Democratic) 1933-1941
26: Franklin D. Roosevelt (Social Democratic) 1941-1947
27: Thomas E. Dewey (Conservative) 1947-1954
28: Harold Stassen (Conservative) 1954-1962
29: Lyndon B. Johnson (Social Democratic) 1962-1968
30: Nelson Rockefeller (Conservative) 1968-1974
31: Pierre Trudeau (Social Democratic) 1974-1981
32: Stanley K. Hathaway (Conservative) 1981-1988
33: Joe Clark (Conservative) 1988-1994
34: Howard Dean (Social Democratic) 1994-1998
35: John McCain (Conservative) 1998-2005
36: Mitt Romney (Conservative) 2005-2013
37: Justin Trudeau (Social Democratic) 2013-
 
American general election, 2013

Social Democratic: 341 seats (+197) Led by Justin Trudeau
Conservative: 139 seats (-211) Led by Mitt Romney
Progressive: 45 seats (-20) Led by Hillary Rodham
Libertarian: 30 seats (+7) Led by Gary Johnson
Ecologist: 21 seats (+11) Led by Al Gore
Constitution: 7 seats (-21) Led by Tom Tancredo
OTHER: 4 seats (+1)
TOTAL: 587 seats, 294 seats needed for a majority

Resulting Prime Minister: Justin Trudeau (Social Democratic majority)
Resulting Opposition Leader: Mitt Romney (Conservative)

 

katchen

Banned
As far as Mitt Romnney goes, you have a bit of historical explaining to do. To begin with, how the LDS Church fared in the Ameriican Confederation. Also, wouldn't the British West Indies be a part of this Confedration? If not, whynot?
Also, I coud see some of these American politicians of sufficient stature standing for Parliament at Westminiser. Maybe an American British PM or two. Abraham Lincoln would be just the poltiician to do something like that, and compete with people like Gladstone, Palmerston and Lord Russell. So might Seward.
And Andrew Jackson would be a kick-Ass general of confederation British troops against Napoleon--probably in the Peninsuoar campaigns. And if he survved, one of the loudest voices insisting on expansion into New Spain , New Granada, Peru and La Plata.
And on the villanous side, I could see John C Calhoun doing a lot of mischief and making life miserable for Sir William Wilberforce. In Westminister, backed by the Southern US Cotton Interest and the West Indian Sugar Interest, whether the West Indies are part of the American confedreracy (or is it Commonwealth) or not.
Lots of possibilities here.
Conversely, why not Sir Winston Churchill for American Parliament during his "wilderness years' He had an American mother after all.
 
Justin Trudeau basically has the same views as Upton Sinclair. :rolleyes:
Tony Blair basically has the same views as Keir Hardie or Clement Attlee.

Barack Obama basically has the same views as William Jennings Bryan.

Tom Mulcair basically has the same views as Tommy Douglas.

David Shearer basically has the same views as Michael Savage.
 
Tony Blair basically has the same views as Keir Hardie or Clement Attlee.

Barack Obama basically has the same views as William Jennings Bryan.

Tom Mulcair basically has the same views as Tommy Douglas.

David Shearer basically has the same views as Michael Savage.

Good point, but I still don't see Sinclair and FDR in the same party, or Sinclair of all people becoming PM out of nowhere.
 

Moore2012

Banned
As far as Mitt Romnney goes, you have a bit of historical explaining to do. To begin with, how the LDS Church fared in the Ameriican Confederation. Also, wouldn't the British West Indies be a part of this Confedration? If not, whynot?
Also, I coud see some of these American politicians of sufficient stature standing for Parliament at Westminiser. Maybe an American British PM or two. Abraham Lincoln would be just the poltiician to do something like that, and compete with people like Gladstone, Palmerston and Lord Russell. So might Seward.
And Andrew Jackson would be a kick-Ass general of confederation British troops against Napoleon--probably in the Peninsuoar campaigns. And if he survved, one of the loudest voices insisting on expansion into New Spain , New Granada, Peru and La Plata.
And on the villanous side, I could see John C Calhoun doing a lot of mischief and making life miserable for Sir William Wilberforce. In Westminister, backed by the Southern US Cotton Interest and the West Indian Sugar Interest, whether the West Indies are part of the American confedreracy (or is it Commonwealth) or not.
Lots of possibilities here.
Conversely, why not Sir Winston Churchill for American Parliament during his "wilderness years' He had an American mother after all.

Jackson did want to annex South America but was held back by Westminster. Lord Wellington's government (although Wellington liked Jackson personally) thought it bad policy to let their American cousins grow to big, to quick.

American politicians are not found at Westminster for the same reason no Canadian has (except Law) ever become the UK's PM.

As to British politicians in America, there have only been 4 Canadian PMs born in the UK and they all held office in the early years.
 
Good point, but I still don't see Sinclair and FDR in the same party, or Sinclair of all people becoming PM out of nowhere.

Not out of nowhere. I'll show you the decline of the Progressives and the rise of the Social Democrats, in due time.

And Sinclair was a Democrat.
 
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