Who do you think will win the election?

  • George W. Bush (R)

    Votes: 31 9.7%
  • Al Gore (D)

    Votes: 103 32.2%
  • Donald Trump (I)

    Votes: 186 58.1%

  • Total voters
    320
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It didn't the two times Republicans stole the election IOTL, it won't ITTL.
Well the times in happened in OTL it was purely due to the mechanisms of the electoral college, which while indeed an issue, it's a rather different one than ITTL. If Trump gets 269 EV and it goes to the House - who pick Bush, it'll be in spite of the fact that Trump has both the most electoral votes and 5.4% more of the popular vote (based on the latest post), far greater than Gore's 0.5% and Clinton's 2.2%. Accusations of party bias will run rampant.
 
Well the times in happened in OTL it was purely due to the mechanisms of the electoral college, which while indeed an issue, it's a rather different one than ITTL. If Trump gets 269 EV and it goes to the House - who pick Bush, it'll be in spite of the fact that Trump has both the most electoral votes and 5.4% more of the popular vote (based on the latest post), far greater than Gore's 0.5% and Clinton's 2.2%. Accusations of party bias will run rampant.
We have to remember the fact that some Reformers are making their way into Congress as well.
 
I would think Trump's platform of loosening regulations would appeal to the business minded Republicans while the social conservatives are likely going to stick with Bush. Trump seems to be damaging Gore's appeal with the moderate Democrats; however, and Gore's only real support seems to come from the Clinton Democrats and Liberal Democrats who are likely holding their noses and voting for Gore.
 
I would think Trump's platform of loosening regulations would appeal to the business minded Republicans while the social conservatives are likely going to stick with Bush. Trump seems to be damaging Gore's appeal with the moderate Democrats; however, and Gore's only real support seems to come from the Clinton Democrats and Liberal Democrats who are likely holding their noses and voting for Gore.

Some social conservatives may also vote for Trump simply because they don't trust Bush to be a "true conservative." Not a lot but perhaps enough to make a difference a couple of key places.
 
I would think Trump's platform of loosening regulations would appeal to the business minded Republicans while the social conservatives are likely going to stick with Bush. Trump seems to be damaging Gore's appeal with the moderate Democrats; however, and Gore's only real support seems to come from the Clinton Democrats and Liberal Democrats who are likely holding their noses and voting for Gore.
I imagine a lot of liberal, anti-establishment Democrats would also vote for Trump because of his reform-based policies and support for universal healthcare.
 

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I imagine a lot of liberal, anti-establishment Democrats would also vote for Trump because of his reform-based policies and support for universal healthcare.

This may also prove to be a big headache for the Reform Party.You would have casual Anti-Semites and Paleoconservatives along with liberal-bordering-on- socialist style voters in the same party.
 
This may also prove to be a big headache for the Reform Party.You would have casual Anti-Semites and Paleoconservatives along with liberal-bordering-on- socialist style voters in the same party.
This is why Trump dropped out in 2000 IOTL. In his exact words, "So the Reform Party now includes a Klansman—Mr. Duke, a Neo-Nazi—Mr. Buchanan, and a Communist—Ms. Fulani. This is not company I wish to keep." I imagine it would end up like the Freedom Party in the A Giant Sucking Sound TL: a big collection of anti-establishment voters from all sides of the political spectrum, but with moderates making up the bulk of the party.

EDIT: While I was searching for that quote, I stumbled upon this sort-of relevant SNL skit from back in the day that sums up what people thought of the Reform Party and Donald Trump's candidacy back then.
 
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We can now make a major projection at this hour...



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Trump wins the Presidency
And we can now project that the state of Georgia and its 13 EV have gone to Donald Trump and with it the Presidency. Donald John Trump is President-elect of the United States!

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✓ Trump: 272 EV
Gore: 133 EV
Bush: 123 EV


This is a night we will not forget soon. Donald Trump, the 54 year old Businessman from New York will become the President of the United States. Trump is the first third party candidate in history to successfully defeat the major parties and win the White House. With 272 EV, he sets an all new record, no 3rd candidate has ever got this far.

You have been watching Election 2000, we will be right back...



 
Headlines of November 8th, 2000
BREAKING:

BUSH WILL NOT CONCEDE TONIGHT!

Bush Campaign will wait for final results - may file recounts in Georgia.



GORE WILL NOT SPEAK TONIGHT


Is waiting on results from House, Senate before making final decision.


TRUMP TO HOLD VICTORY SPEECH FROM TRUMP TOWER


Trump is expected to speak any moment now.
 
The final hours of the Bush campaign...
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The Bush campaign had dearly hoped for a victory, but their hopes were dashed with the Novemeber Surprise of Bush's DUI arrest. Even after the election had been called, they hoped that perhaps they could overturn the result in a recount and put the entire election to a vote in the house.

However, after numerous phone calls, they simply could not find the support from Congress to elect George W. Bush as the 43rd President. Congress did not want to anger the American people by electing a runner up as President, as they had done in 1824.

Bush accepted this gracefully. He knew what he had to do. At 10 o'clock in the morning he picked up the reciever...

Congratulations Mr. President-elect...
 
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The Bush campaign had dearly hoped for a victory, but their hopes were dashed with the Novemeber Surprise of Bush's DUI arrest. Even after the election had been called, they hoped that perhaps they could overturn the result in a recount and put the entire election to a vote in the house.

However, after numerous phone calls, they simply could not find the support from Congress to elect George W. Bush as the 43rd President. Congress did not want to anger the American people by electing a runner up as President, as they had done in 1824.

Bush accepted this gracefully. He knew what he had to do. At 10 o'clock in the morning he picked up the reciever...

 
Gore concedes
After hanging up, Bush flicked on the television, changing it to the news. Right now, a familiar face graced the screen...

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Good morning, moments ago I spoke with Donald J Trump and congratulated him on becoming President-elect of the United States.

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President William Jefferson Clinton watched as his Vice-President conceded the race. He felt his dissappointment, but it was a fleeting feeling. Clinton was satisfied, and in fact anxious to leave the White House. He would be fine, and soon he would move on with his life.

Earlier he had delivered his statement on the election. Soon he would have to meet with the President-elect, he knew him well. However, he couldn't shake the feeling that perhaps he himself might forgotten. It didn't bother him much, how could one compare with the first independent President in history?

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He watched as three politicians made their final exit, the end of three long careers. However, their time in the limelight was over.

Now it was his turn to shape history...
 
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Trump Victory Speech


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Thank you. Thank you very much, everybody. Sorry to keep you waiting. Complicated business. Complicated. Thank you very much.

I have just recieved calls from Vice-President Gore and Governor Bush to congratulate us. It's about us. On our victory, and I congratulated them and their family on a very, very hard-fought campaign.
I mean that very sincerely. Now it is time for America to bind the wounds of division, have to get together. To all Republicans and Democrats and independents across this nation, I say it is time for us to come together as one united people.

It is time. I pledge to every citizen of our land that I will be President for all of Americans, and this is so important to me. For those who have chosen not to support me in the past, of which there were a few people, I'm reaching out to you for your guidance and your help so that we can work together and unify our great country.

As I've said from the beginning, ours was not a campaign but rather an incredible and great movement, made up of millions of hard-working men and women who love their country and want a better, brighter future for themselves and for their family.

It is a movement comprised of Americans from all races, religions, backgrounds, and beliefs, who want and expect our government to serve the people -- and serve the people it will.

Working together, we will begin the urgent task of rebuilding our nation and renewing the American dream. I've spent my entire life in business, looking at the untapped potential in projects and in people all over the world.

That is now what I want to do for our country. Tremendous potential. I've gotten to know our country so well. Tremendous potential. It is going to be a beautiful thing. Every single American will have the opportunity to realize his or her fullest potential.

The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer.

Thank you, and may God bless the UNITED States of America!
 
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Regardless what happen, seems Trump is fated to beat a bush and a clinton protege...well somethings never changes.
 
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