That was what Long wrote. I can't see the Senate entrusting the country's money to Smith.
Joe Kennedy senior was head of the sec before FDR sent him to London. Maybe Long picks JPK or Morgenthau for treasury?
That was what Long wrote. I can't see the Senate entrusting the country's money to Smith.
Secondedwe should move this to the Political chat just like List Alternate PM's and Presidents- Past, Present & Future did
Here was Long’s planned cabinet in My First Days in the White House written by him.Cabinet of 33th President of the United States of America Huey P. Long:
President: Senator Huey P. Long (Common Wealth- Louisiana) 1937-1938
Vice President: Representative William Lemke (CW-North Dakota) 1937-1938
Secretary of State: Senator William E. Borah (R-Idaho) 1937-1938
Secretary of Treasury: Former Governor Alfred E. “Al” Smith (D-New York) 1937-1938
Secretary of War: General Smedley D. Butler (CW-Pennsylvania) 1937-1938
Attorney General: Former Governor Oscar Kelly “O.K.” Allen (CW-Louisiana) 1937-1938, Vacant 1938
Postmaster General: Former Lieutenant Governor John B. Fournet (CW-Louisiana) 1937-1938
Secretary of the Navy: New Orleans Mayor Robert S. Maestri (CW-Louisiana) 1937-1938, Vacant 1938
Secretary of the Interior: General Lytle Brown (Ind-Tennessee) 1937-1938
Secretary of Agriculture: Farmers’ activist Aaron L. Sapiro (CW-California) 1937-1938
Secretary of Commerce: Former Governor James A. Noe (CW-Louisiana) 1937-1938, Vacant 1938
Secretary of Labor: Former Representative Edward Keating (D-Colorado) 1937-1938
Many more Republicans than I would have expected.Here was Long’s planned cabinet in My First Days in the White House written by him.
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Yeah, I know, in 1932 he literally run on a “There is a crisis? So, what? Let the poors starving and get out of business so better people can have the chance to manage the economy! Now, can we return to the very main theme of this century, alcohol consumption?” platform. So, it’s perfectly possible Long was humorous on it (even his program included a balanced budget, after all). But Long winning by third party means he still has no majority in Congress and he can’t simply bribing and intimidating all Congressmen as he did down in Louisiana. The Kingfish wisely cultivated an image as maverick and populist but he was unusually tricky when he came to deal with his interests, so I can see he nominating Smith to appease the Congress and bankers worried about his economic policies. Public works are managed by other departments, so he can easily sideline him by executive orders and, if economy doesn’t take off, he can blame Smith for the failure. However, you have a point, in fact I’m reserving the right to refresh the list if I find some name more suitable for Treasury (any suggestions?).The rest are great but Smith was the human embodiment of the corporate liberal Wall Street elite, he was a centrist capitalist through and through. Very different to Long's "share the wealth" policies.
Yep, but his choice for Treasury, Senator James Couzens, died in 1936, so I guessed it would be easier switching Smith to Treasury and leave the Director of Budget’s position out of Cabinet, especially with an hostile Congress not open to make him favors. JPK Sr would surely get a seat from Long thanks his friendship with Father Coughlin and his open mind about offering bribes to get what he wants but still a man with a such shadowy reputation (liquor and movie business-mob-connected-Wall Street speculator) could find some resistance from Congress and businessmen.Long planned for Smith to become the Director of the Budget and also planned to make it a Cabinet Position.
I had an idea of maybe having Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. as Secretary of the Treasury or Secretary of Commerce since he was a businessman but what do you guys think?
Long planned for Smith to become the Director of the Budget and also planned to make it a Cabinet Position.
I had an idea of maybe having Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. as Secretary of the Treasury or Secretary of Commerce since he was a businessman but what do you guys think?
Hmm, how about another Smith who was largely involved in the commerce sector and a strong proponent of Long's Share Our Wealth plan, Gerald L. K. Smith. Sure I doubt his nomination would go through but it's an interesting idea to ponder, yk. Also I'm not sure if JPK and Long were on the best of terms, not sure if this is just my AH knowledge kicking me in the butt with tricking my OTL mind. Maybe Kennedy could be better suited for Secretary of Commerce?Yeah, I know, in 1932 he literally run on a “There is a crisis? So, what? Let the poors starving and get out of business so better people can have the chance to manage the economy! Now, can we return to the very main theme of this century, alcohol consumption?” platform. So, it’s perfectly possible Long was humorous on it (even his program included a balanced budget, after all). But Long winning by third party means he still has no majority in Congress and he can’t simply bribing and intimidating all Congressmen as he did down in Louisiana. The Kingfish wisely cultivated an image as maverick and populist but he was unusually tricky when he came to deal with his interests, so I can see he nominating Smith to appease the Congress and bankers worried about his economic policies. Public works are managed by other departments, so he can easily sideline him by executive orders and, if economy doesn’t take off, he can blame Smith for the failure. However, you have a point, in fact I’m reserving the right to refresh the list if I find some name more suitable for Treasury (any suggestions?).
Yep, but his choice for Treasury, Senator James Couzens, died in 1936, so I guessed it would be easier switching Smith to Treasury and leave the Director of Budget’s position out of Cabinet, especially with an hostile Congress not open to make him favors. JPK Sr would surely get a seat from Long thanks his friendship with Father Coughlin and his open mind about offering bribes to get what he wants but still a man with a such shadowy reputation (liquor and movie business-mob-connected-Wall Street speculator) could find some resistance from Congress and businessmen.
GLK Smith has virtually no chance to get Congressional approval and Long didn’t owe any favors worth of a such struggle. Some other names I thought:Hmm, how about another Smith who was largely involved in the commerce sector and a strong proponent of Long's Share Our Wealth plan, Gerald L. K. Smith. Sure I doubt his nomination would go through but it's an interesting idea to ponder, yk. Also I'm not sure if JPK and Long were on the best of terms, not sure if this is just my AH knowledge kicking me in the butt with tricking my OTL mind. Maybe Kennedy could be better suited for Secretary of Commerce?
Better suited for HUD Secretary IMVHO, though that wouldn't open up a House seat in Ohio for Nina Turner to run for (she'd be a good pick for White House Chief of Staff).SBA Administrator:Chokwe Antar Lumumba
I think he wouldn't pick Jayapal for the cabinet, and definitely not such a low level position like OMB Administrator, as she would most likely be aiming her sights on the Speakership come 2023.Office and Budget: Pramila Jayapal
Would Bernie really pick two Senators if the Democrats are only just barely holding onto a 50 seat majority?CIA Director: Martin Heinrich
Director of National Intelligence: Ron Wyden
I feel like she'd stay in Congress until running for Senate in 2024.Consumer Financial Protection Bureau: Katie Porter
Again I don't think Sanders would risk a Senate seat like that by nominating Duckworth to the cabinet. Would probably set her up for Secretary of Defense later on in a future Democratic administration.Secretary of Veteran Affairs: Tammy Duckworth
I personally think Bernie would go with Elizabeth Warren, Tulsi Gabbard, Nina Turner, or Rashida Tlaib as his running mate over Val Demings.Vice President: Val Demings
Yeah getting Nina a opportunity to get into the house was a major factor in choosing Fudge.Better suited for HUD Secretary IMVHO, though that wouldn't open up a House seat in Ohio for Nina Turner to run for (she'd be a good pick for White House Chief of Staff).
I can't speak to the relationship between the two but she was the one who stood out the most in the section about this post. Plus considering it's taken her this long just to be appointed leader of the Progressive Caucus, I don't think she had a realistic shot at speaker.I think he wouldn't pick Jayapal for the cabinet, and definitely not such a low level position like OMB Administrator, as she would most likely be aiming her sights on the Speakership come 2023.
The section regarding these two positions only had three candidates and the third one didn't impress me as much.Would Bernie really pick two Senators if the Democrats are only just barely holding onto a 50 seat majority?
Remember in this scenario she's being offered the job in 2020. If anything she could view as a resume padder for when she runs for Senate. If she had even considered running by this point.I feel like she'd stay in Congress until running for Senate in 2024.
Illinois is a pretty Blue state, I think it'd be worth the risk. Plus she's been considered for the job for about a decade at this point.Again i don't think Sanders would risk a Senate seat like that by nominating Duckworth to the cabinet. Would probably set her up for Secretary of Defense later on in a future Democratic administration.
Demings is there as the sole concession to the moderate/conservative wing of the party. Plus she could help with African Americans, a voter block Bernie notoriously struggles with.I personally think Bernie would go with Elizabeth Warren, Tulsi Gabbard, Nina Turner, or Rashida Tlaib as his running mate over Val Demings.
May I suggest Rudy Giuliani for Attorney General instead of Pataki (or DHS could work but I don't think Pataki would accept an appointment from Trump), Rob Portman for Secretary of Commerce instead of Jeb (no way he'd accept a job from the guy who beat his brother), Howard Dean or Jim Ramstad for Secretary of Health and Human Services, Al Sharpton for Secretary of Education, John Hagelin for Secretary of Energy, and Max Cleland for Secretary of Veterans Affairs.Trump 2000 Cabinet: WIP
President: Businessman Donald J. Trump of New York (Reform)
Vice President: Media Proprietor Oprah G. Winfrey of Illinois (Reform)
Secretary of State: Former General Colin L. Powell of Virginia (Republican)
Secretary of the Treasury: Businessman John F. Welch, Jr. of New York (Independent)
Secretary of Defense: Senator John S. McCain III of Arizona (Republican)
Attorney General: Governor George E. Pataki of New York (Republican)
Secretary of the Interior: Former Senator William W. Bradley of New Jersey (Democratic)
Secretary of Agriculture: ???
Secretary of Commerce: Governor John E. Bush of Florida (Republican)
Secretary of Labor: Labor Leader James P. Hoffa of Michigan (Independent)
Secretary of Health and Human Services: ???
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Representative Charles B. Rangel of New York (Democratic)
Secretary of Transportation: ???
Secretary of Energy: ???
Secretary of Education: ???
Secretary of Veterans Affairs: ???
Secretary of Homeland Security: Senator Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut (Democratic)
Any Suggestions, Comments, or Changes I Should Make?