The Adamantine Age: Olaf Tryggvasson Chooses the Aesir

So hard to find the line between an author feeling neglected and bumping a thread obnoxiously!:eek:

I try to avoid bumping, because I know how much it frustrates me to see a long-dormant thread apparently returning to life only to see it's someone demanding it do so. Also as I never write timelines myself, I feel I am in no position to demand someone else do so. So often I've seen favorite timelines lobbied for only to hear the author has major life issues to deal with or the like. So sorry if silence was taken for contempt.

With me sometimes I don't comment because I think a thread is nigh-perfect.

Anyway I'll be glad to see this continued as well.
 
You have a new subscribed reader from the bumping, me. So hopefully the increase in readers will provide motivation to keep writing.
 

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This thread makes me sad because it reminds me why I'm an atheist, the changes to religion because of politics, how they invent verses to serve political and missionary ends (Loki becoming Satan). Also how religions change by context (Norweg vs Vinlandic paganism). I wish I could be a theist again. :(

also I have 2 questions:

1. How is the enlightenment affected by the survival of Pagan faith to the present day, how are virtue ethics affected by the fact that Pagan bravery is in many places and equal value to Christian Charity. If they trade with Mesoamerica and the Native tribes instead of killing them, how does that affect the enlightenment?

2. On a related note, religious conflict backed by states, creating a place for skepticism to flourish, and trade bringing new ideas and cultures together were the origins of the Renascence/enlightenment does that mean the 13th century will have a Norse Renascence and the 14th a enlightenment?

3. How will this affect the birth of Global Capitalism, or will some new system arise that has never existed in our reality? With completely different relationships to the means of Production, if so what is this system, and what is its revolutionary opponent, its socialism/communism?

4. Does anyone try to combine Norse Paganism with Christianity and possibly Native Religions?

5. How do Native Religions play ITTL, are they subsumed into Christianity/Paganism or do they become their own religious forces?

6. How are Native cultures affected? With large trading settlement's your going to have iron get out eventually and the larger nations to the South are going to form alliances, will the Iroquois go on to form a large regional empire after allying with the Norse. Hell could the Aztec form an oversea's empire in Africa using Norse Longboats.

7. How does disease affect the Natives, and the Europeans, is the communication both ways this time, say fleas transmitting disease from animal skin clothing to Natives and from Natives to Norsemen?

8. When do other Nations get involved, and which ones? I'm going with the Muslim and Mongol Empires because they are the best organized at this time, and trade with the Vikings.
 
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Aztec africain colonies would for sure shake things up. I'd love to see a Bene interpretation of an Aztec god.
 
Extended Hiatus.

Makemakean is putting this thread on hiatus again. But, I've been brainstorming ideas with him through PM since January, and we've mostly discussed the course of Norse Vestigard's (TTL's North America) history for the next two hundred years after the landing of Leifur Eiriksson. This TL also has major changes in Europe itself, including a major schism in the Latin Church due to the Investiture Controversy, a delayed Christianization of Norway by one generation, a dynastic turnover in Denmark with Thorkell the Tall.
 
Thorkell the Tall? You mean this guy? :D

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Makemakean is putting this thread on hiatus again. But, I've been brainstorming ideas with him through PM since January, and we've mostly discussed the course of Norse Vestigard's (TTL's North America) history for the next two hundred years after the landing of Leifur Eiriksson. This TL also has major changes in Europe itself, including a major schism in the Latin Church due to the Investiture Controversy, a delayed Christianization of Norway by one generation, a dynastic turnover in Denmark with Thorkell the Tall.

A Catholic schism, and a stronger pagan religion, would that mean the enlightenment coming much earlier?
 
I glad that this tread is still alive, I greatly enjoyed the discussion over the winter. I like the direction which the discussion was going and am waiting with bated breath for the resurrection
 
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