The 20th Century

If you collapse Austria-Hungary differently, it'd be interesting to see even more nations arise out of the ashes... perhaps an independent Ruthenia, no Czechoslovakia (Separate Czech and Slovak... maybe even divide the Czech lands into Bohemia and Moravia!)... Also, there was a Sudeten German revolt after that land was assigned to Czechoslovakia... If the Czechs are fragmented, it could do better, and since the Allies are likely unwilling to see Germany grow after the war (We fought this war and they GAIN territory? No!) You could see a separate Sudetenland, or an oddly shaped Austria.
 
Oh, and Luakel...here's an outline map of OTL's 2005 Europe that's as good as any...hold on...

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Something I Want To Attempt...

In OTL, around 1909 J. Krishnamurti was proclaimed "World Teacher" and was seen as a messiah of the Twentieth Century. In OTL, this belief was taken seriously only by those persons within the Theosophical movement and the emerging New Age Consciousness. What if he was taken more seriously, imagine the religious and social implications of a self-proclaimed messiah in India. For more information, please check out the following link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiddu_Krishnamurti

This can certainly add another surreal twist to the Twentieth Century...
 
Any Thoughts??

Hey Guys!! It looks like things are going well in terms of the ATL (especially in Western Europe). Just out of curiousity, are there any thoughts about having J. Krishnamurti become a bigger religious influence than in OTL?
 
Not The Cliches....

Romulus Augustulus said:
He can have an insane suicide cult in this TL...:p
Romulus Augustulus- Don't worry, I have something more subtle, and certainly more dangerous in mind. Try to imagine the anti-colonial ideas of Yasser Arafat along with the religious fervor of the Ayatollah Khomeini. You will still get your British soldiers getting killed, foreigners harassed and assaulted,and more....
 
Romulus Augustulus said:
Nah...they'll lose to both Poland and Russia/USSR.
What's the point of that? :confused:

Most of those areas did have German majorities, anyway, and many of the Poles didn't complain...
 
Romulus Augustulus said:
Well, the Poland of this TL is significantly smaller...it's not Communist, but it has Soviet help, since they want protection from the Germans.
The Poles are much more likely to turn against the Soviets than the Germans...

Besides, Poland will still have land in the south and east.
 
I plan on having the Soviets release the Poles in the manner they released Finland. Then, I'd say that the Poles have some problems with the Germans...the Soviets, alarmed, decide to prop up the Polish government so as to prevent the Germans from causing trouble.
 
Romulus Augustulus said:
I plan on having the Soviets release the Poles in the manner they released Finland. Then, I'd say that the Poles have some problems with the Germans...the Soviets, alarmed, decide to prop up the Polish government so as to prevent the Germans from causing trouble.
Yes, but what is the purpose of having Germany suffer?
 
A Scratch Copy...

Based on some initial ideas, here is a brief idea of what I want to do with J. Krishnamurti in the ATL:

Jiddu Krishnamurti (1895-1986)
1895- Jiddu Krisnmurti is born near Madras, India

1909- Annie Besant, leader of the Theosophical Movement meets Jiddu Krisnamurti, proclaiming him "Maitreya", World Teacher...

1925- Nitya Krishnamurti is killed in Madras, during a rally for the Indian National Congress (INC) by British Colonial Troops...

1925- Jiddu Krishnamurti joins the Rashitraya Swayansavak Sangh (RSS), the National Volunteers Society, in an effort to combat British Colonialism

1929- Jiddu Krishnamurti is arrested by British colonial forces for his speech, "By Any Means Necessary..." in New Delhi

1931- Bombing of the National Water Carrier in New Delhi is later blamed on Jiddu Krishnamurti and his followers...

1932- Bombing of railroads at two locations throughout New Delhi

1932-1934- Bombing of British military bases, villages, and community centers

1956- Jiddu Krishnamurti is arrested by British colonial authorities in New Delhi

1957- Jiddu Krishnamurti is arrested and deported by order of the British Governor-General to Colombo, Sri Lanka...


So what do people think???
 
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