The 1001 Arabian PODs

maverick

Banned
This is a game type of thing in which you have to come up with PODs about the Islamic world, between the hegira (622) and 1899, in the space between Dehli and Rabat, including Central Asia, the Balkans, the Ottoman Empire and just the arab-islamic world in general, since I have a feeling that we don't talk much about them in any case...

And so we don't get 1001 responses to this one, please try to come up with as many original PODs as possible, look, I'll start:

1001. WI Mohammed had not been born? (the most obvious)
1000. WI Suleyman the Magnificent had taken Viena?
999. WI the Moors had not been driven out of Spain?
998. WI Saladin had not been born?
997. WI the Tamerlane had marched on Anatolia and conquered Constantinople before the Ottomans?
996. WI the muslims had won the battle of poitiers?
 

Iñaki

995. What if the Apostates Rebellion in Arabia after the death of Mohammed had succeeded?
994. What if Yarmuk had been a byzantine victory?
993. What if Omar Ibn Hafsun had defeated the Ummayad Spanish Emirate in his rebellion against the ummayads in Spain?
992. What if Ali had won the arab civil war and was not killed?
991. What if Abd-Al Malik ibn Muzaffar, amiri real governor of Spanish Ummayad caliphate, had not died in 1008?
990. What if Karaman and not the ottomans had been the victors in the struggle for the control of Anatolia?
 

Roberto

989. WI Timur Lenk had focused more on India?
988. WI Granada had lasted ten more years?
987. WI an Arab Dhow had discovered America? (had to be done)
986. WI the Rashidun Empire hadn't transitioned to the Umayyad Caliphate?
985. WI the Umayyads won the Battle of the Zab?
984. WI the Berbers won the Battle of Kairouan?
 

Ran Exilis

983. What if the Samanids had never arisen?
982. What if the Great Seljuk empire had managed to remain united instead of collapsing as a result of civil war between the many pretenders to the throne?
981. What if none of the Umayyads had made it to Spain after the Abbasid takeover?
980. What if the Fatimids had continued to focus on the central Mediterranean instead of conquering Egypt?
979. What if Morocco had remained under Shi'ite rule (the Idrisids), and had become a predominately Shi'ite country?
978. What if Umar II, the "only pious Umayyad Caliph" (ergo: the only Umayyad Caliph who made serious attempts to convert his non-Muslim subjects) had never risen to power?
 

richie42

978: What if Mohammed lost the Battle of Badr?
977: What if the U.S. never entered the Barbary Wars?
976: What Article 11 0f the Treaty of Tripoli was never written?
 

Rockingham

Banned
973: What if Persia had remained a permanent part of the Arabian cultural sphere?
972:What if the Arabian cultural sphere had fragemented(like the Latin one)?
971:What if an Arab Egyptian state had survived and remained a great power until today.
970:WI Mecca/Medina had been permanently destroyed.
969:WI Sicily was permanently Arabified?
 

Ran Exilis

968: What if a Muslim state had adopted a Romance language and the remnants of the Western Roman culture in the same way as the Samanids, and to a lesser extent, the Abbasids, had adopted the Persian language and culture?
 

maverick

Banned
Great job people!:)

967. WI Nadir Shah had not lived and founded the Afsharid Dynasty?
966. WI the Ottomans had been able to keep Crimea for a while longer?
965. WI the Golden Horde had been able to remain in control of Russia?
964. WI Islam's advance had been halted at Egypt?
963. WI Tippu Sultan had been successful in his war against the East India Company and her allies?
 

Dathi THorfinnsson

Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy said:
Sorry for messing up the title, but it should be "Muslim" or "Islamic" rather than "Arabic".
Click to expand...

No, as it's a reference to 1001 Arabian nights. You know, attributed to Scheherazade? Since some of those stories involved non-Arab settings IIRC we can have non-Arab POD's


960- Prince John converts, leading to AL-Angliyya
959- WI there were a 17 Imam Shi'a
958 - WI there were no 11 Imam SHi'a
957 - Druze considered real (but wierd) muslims, not heterodox, or miscreants
956 - Druze considered the ONLY real muslims
955 - WI Islam converted all (or at least a much larger chunk) of animist Africa before the Christians got there.
954 - WI Scheherazade flubbed her timing and was killed after the second or third night.
 

maverick

Banned
953. What if Muhammed Ali had been able to defeat the Ottomans?
952. What if Napoleon had not invaded Egypt in 1798?
951. What if the Ottomans had won the battle of Lepanto?
950. What if Crimea had not been conquered by the Tartars or the Ottomans?
949. What if the Mongols had been able to conquer Egypt?
 

stevep

948. What if the Sassanid’s had survived in the Iranian highlands?
947. What if the Ottomans had secured permanent footholds in Italy and conquered Rome?
946. What if Napoleon and Alexander had conquered and divided the Ottoman empire?
945. What if the Marmalukes had reformed their state and conquered the Ottomans, rather than vice-versa?
944. What if Khadijah [see 961] had not only out-lived Mohammad but been recognised as his successor?
943. What if the Fatamids had pushed east from Egypt and overrun Syria and Iraq, making the Shiites the dominant Muslim faction?
942. What if the revolt by black slaves in southern Iraq, or a later one, had generated a permanent black population in the area and it somehow survived to the present day?
941. What if Tamerlain had moved against China earlier, say before attacking Egypt and India, and had managed to launch a serious invasion?
940. What if the Golden Horde had converted to Orthodox Christianity rather than Islam?
 

richie42

937: WI during the Crusades, Muslims adopted European culture and technology instead of what was much of the other way around?
 
Mason

Mason

1001b. What if Rattslinger knew more Islamic, Arabic, Muslim history than what he has seen in the movies?
 
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