Well! In light of the
28 (!) posts that have accumulated since my last reply, while I was plugging away at the next update (which, by the way, is now nearly complete), I feel that the time has finally come to respond once again to all of you wonderful people who are commenting on my thread.
At the end of this timeline, could you round-up the award shows for each year (Oscars and Emmys, who cares about the Globes). Who was nominated? Of course, we know the majority of the winners.
I plan on doing something like this for the Second Revised Final Draft of my timeline, as it were, along with a ratings roundup for each season (similar to my
Rating Game update for 1968-69). It's very easy to get bogged down in that sort of thing as I'm writing, and I'd rather gloss over the precise details for the time being.
An intriguing update. Williams's death took me by surprise, but in retrospect was all too likely.
I'm glad that you found it so! And yes, sadly, recent events have amply demonstrated that substance abuse is no respecter of people, claiming even those at the very height of their fame and success. Not to mention that
The Richard Pryor Show was certainly a far more conducive environment than
Mork and Mindy.
Daibhid C said:
Unless the butterflies have been active here, TWR would have been
a guest star, not a guest host. Guest hosts were the provenance of a different show that doesn't even exist.
You're absolutely correct! I've already edited the update to reflect that -
and I've even asked the curator of the TVTropes page for TWR to do so ahead of you
Daibhid C said:
I liked the Star Trek sixth season discussion.
Excellent! I'm glad you enjoyed it - because it was a lot of fun to write.
Daibhid C said:
It's just occured to me, what's the Doctor Who situation as of 1980? Is Jim Dale having the same kind of run as Tom Baker did IOTL, or did he take OTL Troughton's advice to Davison and stop at 3 years?
We'll revisit
Doctor Who again in the future, though not in as much detail as we have in the past - but your question will be answered.
So I've been reading the timeline for about a week- up to the end of the 74-75 season, and I must say, I'm impressed. Very fine work sir, and as a lifelong fan of TOS, I'm very pleased to see what you've done with it. Hope it continues as a franchise.
Thank you very much, Voice of the Empire, and welcome aboard! I look forward to your continued thoughts once you have caught up with the timeline.
Voice of The Empire said:
My only concern is with the early ending of....... An overseas political quagmire, if that film has been butterflied away.
Night of the Living Dead was released in 1968, on schedule, ITTL, complete with Duane Jones as the lead. Its production
just barely cleared the frenzy of butterflies.
Do other countries entertainment industries use 'Hollywood accounting'?
An excellent question, and one which merits further research. Unfortunately, I don't have an answer for you at this time.
Pesterfield said:
Whatever the answer will it impact political discussion about regulation?
Unlikely. The Americans have never really been the type to bow to the whims of the international community when it comes to doing business.
It makes quite a bit of sense to make Quirk a bartender. The character spending a lot of time behind a bar would make it very easy to hide the puppeteer.
Exactly
I imagine it'd be a pretty high bar, too, in order to allow Oz to stand comfortably (in a trench behind it).
Time slip said:
I am guessing the back lot would be dressed in such a way to make it look a bit more alien for filming Deep Space?
Most likely. The nice thing about exterior facades is that they're usually easy to build, install,
and dismantle, as needed.
Time slip said:
I am also curious about who else is a part of the cast of Deep Space beside Frank Oz.
Mostly a cast of unknowns and character actors, just as was the case for
Star Trek.
Thanks. Now I'm wondering about the RKO catalog. In both OTL and ITTL, did Desilu buy the catalog?
No, only the studio space. C&C Television Corporation (owned by an Irish beverage manufacturer, of all things) bought the rights to the RKO library in 1955, holding them until it went bankrupt in 1971; IOTL, United Artists then bought half the rights (with a holding company taking the other half); ITTL, UA bought
all of them in one fell swoop (because it didn't need to invest resources into propping up MGM). Technically, the logos and trademarks of RKO itself remained in the shell company that survived after 1957.
A. Does NBC have financial problems in 1981?
No, NBC is the solid, second-place, middle-of-the-road network in 1981. CBS is the one with financial problems, which are (partly) solved by selling back the syndication rights of
I Love Lucy to Desilu, and receiving the right-of-first-refusal on their programming, at least in the short term. They'll have to build on this with successful offerings, of course.
MatthewFirth said:
B. Is Bob Hope still doing specials at least?
Yes, he is.
MatthewFirth said:
C. Will Baba Wawa finally be allowed to leave the Today Show and present something else?
The answer can be found in the very first post of this timeline
MatthewFirth said:
D. If there was to be a fifth TV network, who would be the contenders to run it?
Nice try
MatthewFirth said:
E. What's happening in the Game show market?
Stay tuned!
MatthewFirth said:
F. Any chance to adapt James Bond books for television (e.g. Octopussy and the Living Daylights/For Your Eyes Only)
Not if United Artists has anything to say about it.
MatthewFirth said:
I must also let you know that when making suggestions for spin-off timeline, you don't have to do these yourself of course, since I knew you would not want to do more after this is finished. The spin-off ideas are for those who are supporters.
I'm afraid I'm
far too much of a control freak to be anything less than a co-author on any spinoff, and that would take a
lot of time and energy.
I just hope the appeal doesn't go though, otherwise I would be upset. Also I just realized that Ghostbusters and Blues Brothers won't be made without SNL. I know this isn't a utopia, but come on!
I'm afraid that them's the breaks of being 15 years out from the POD!
One thing I would like to know: Did any of the OTL plane crashes occur in TTL?
I was just thinking...some of them could be butterflied away, and some could be worse than OTL
and better than OTL, IMO.
Plane crashes are so susceptible to butterflies that you can count on
any of them after 1967 having been avoided ITTL - replaced by a whole
new set of plane crashes.
Unknown said:
Waiting for your next update, Brainbin.
It will be ready
very soon!
Brilliant, but very sad, update.
Thank you, vultan.
vultan said:
Like the little alt-discussion board thread you made. Maybe you could do for other what-ifs of the TL ("what if Spielberg had made more James Bond movies?" - "what if Deep Space had been made as an explicit Star Trek spin-off?" - "what if Kubrick had directed a live-action Lord of the Rings trilogy" - and of course, "what I'd Lucile Ball had decided to sell Desilu in the late '60s?")
I like the way you're thinking! Perhaps when updates are coming along more slowly, I could write some more of these. They
are fun little trifles
Lucy did sell Desliu, to Paramount.
Except the POD of the whole timeline is that she didn't
I think the idea here is a "What If" discussions from within the timeline. I don't recall Brainbin doing any of those so far.
Or political ones, such as "WI Nixon were elected POTUS in 1968 ?" Anything like the OTL events would probably be dismissed as ASB.
To clarify what
vultan was asking for, he wanted more examples of
people within the universe of this timeline asking what-if questions like the ones he listed above, written in the style of my "What if
Star Trek gets a sixth season?" experiment. Obviously,
in that fictional universe, the events of OTL (following the POD) did not happen.
It should be noted that Lucille Ball did appear in at least one later (comparative) Bob Hope Special ("Bob Hope Buys NBC"). All I remember was her line, "Boy, do I hate telling lies," near the very beginning.) I'm not sure when it was. I was but a kid at the time.
That Wacky Redhead was close friends with most of the major radio stars of the 1940s, and grew especially close with Hope in the 1980s (by which time, sadly, he was one of the few who was still alive). In fact, her final public appearance IOTL was accompanying him to the 61st Academy Awards, where they presented together.
Hey, I just got alerted to this.
http://issuu.com/anandylaanbaatar/docs/net_july_2013
If you can read it, go to page 20.
Thank you for sharing that, Dan. It's certainly an article that I was
immensely flattered to read, and a great showcase for this site in general and this timeline in particular.
HOLY CRAP! This is probably the most epic TL on the forum.
Well, I certainly appreciate that compliment, though I really must say that it isn't at all true. But thank you for saying so anyway
Yeah, but they think we're anal!
Not just anal.
Terrifyingly anal.
And they couldn't be more right, either
(And welcome aboard, Lycaon pictus!)
But this was the TL being promoted the most.
Indeed it was - something for which I have personally thanked the author of the piece in question,
Richard Cobbett.
