Texas remains independent

1845: Texas doesn't feel like nominating itself for Statehood since its a good summer what would it look like today aside from having George W. Bush as its most likely President.
 
Texas was a godless mess, underpopulated and full of anarchy and lawlessness. It will have to overcome those problems. It will need a European protector and investor. The French were willing.
 

jahenders

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1845: Texas doesn't feel like nominating itself for Statehood since its a good summer what would it look like today aside from having George W. Bush as its most likely President.

It would have a very hard time surviving to make it to post-1900. First, Mexico might have decided to reclaim it anytime. Second, it was foundering in debt it couldn't pay -- those debts were a huge reason it became a state.

Norton is correct that a foreign protector might address these problems somewhat, but there would be a price in accepting one.

The US will likely still find reasons for conflict with Mexico and will likely wind up with Mexico. The US and TX might have some border wars over what is now AZ, NM, CO, etc. TX will probably be beaten down to something like its current size.

Assuming the US still has a civil war (though TX's absence shifts the political balance somewhat), TX might choose to support the CSA. However, their support as a foreign nation would be less than their support as a CSA state. CSA still loses.

Anyway, if TX survives all that and doesn't decide to become a state later, it'll be a small country between two larger countries. It will always be economically and politically tiny relative to the US. It will try to avoid pissing off the US too much. It may eventually develop a relationship with the US like the one the US has with Canada.
 
Well if Texas remained independent, the US may not allow major connections with France or Britain. Or at least squawk if it should happen.

Texas might sell/trade some of its claims to the US for money and support though.
 
Just a quick note about the Bushes. They are a patrician New England family that still maintain a house in New England. Prescott Bush was a Senator from Connecticut. GHW Bush was born in Massachusetts and GW Bush was born in Connecticut. GHW Bush moved to Texas to participate in the oil business.

An independent Texas just means that GHW Bush returns to New England and enters US politics from there. His son sort of adopted Texan culture, just as Barack Obama adopted Black culture. With an independent Texas, this doesn't happen.

However, one President who would be affected is Lyndon Johnson, who was born, raised, and lived his entire life in Texas.

I agree with the earlier posters that Texas joined the USA for good reasons, and the only way to keep them out is for the USA to decide that it doesn't want the place.
 

Wallet

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Eisenhower was born in Texas, but would his German family move to an independent Texas?

Since a world war is going to happen, (I believe that the Congress of Vienna makes its likely)

What happens?
 
There are, on average, 100 million sperm in any mating process. That gives a 1 in 100 million chance of any of these people being born. Not to mention that their parents and grandparents being born runs on the same principle. Not to mention that's just one go at sex. So that's a 1/(100 million) X (All those variables) chance of these people being born.
 
Also interesting stuff you could not run for two terms but you could run if you opponent was President for a few years, what do you Americans call it consecutive terms or something along those lines?
 
Technically, Bush could be the President of the Republic of Texas, provided they were still using the Constitution of 1836. Article 6, Section 1 says that "No person shall be eligible to the office of president who shall not have attained the age of thirty-five years, shall be a citizen of the republic at the time of the adoption of this constitution, or an inhabitant of this republic at least three years immediately preceding his election.

Bush would qualify under the third standard.
 
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