Texas and California get UN seats

When the UN was formed the Soviets got two extra seats. Ukraine and Belarus were represented, in turn the US was allowed two extra seats as well.

Officially the "republics" of Texas and California within the US as states still, but still sitting in the UN as s balance for the "republics" the USSR was granted.
 

Md139115

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I have the feeling that the Soviets would have agreed instantly if it meant that Texas and California would be recognized as legally distinct from the rest of the US. Nice opportunity to fund secessionist movements there.
 
I have the feeling that the Soviets would have agreed instantly if it meant that Texas and California would be recognized as legally distinct from the rest of the US. Nice opportunity to fund secessionist movements there.

Well the cold war did make for strange bedfellows. But i'm having trouble imagining soviet support for Texan seccessionists really working out. Mostly because I think at the time your average Texan would have rather made the state sport mandatory sodomy then accept a single ruble.
 

Md139115

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Well the cold war did make for strange bedfellows. But i'm having trouble imagining soviet support for Texan seccessionists really working out. Mostly because I think at the time your average Texan would have rather made the state sport mandatory sodomy then accept a single ruble.

Well, obviously not Texas, but the bears of the world should stick together...
 

kernals12

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When the UN was formed the Soviets got two extra seats. Ukraine and Belarus were represented, in turn the US was allowed two extra seats as well.

Officially the "republics" of Texas and California within the US as states still, but still sitting in the UN as s balance for the "republics" the USSR was granted.
In the 1950 Census, New York was the largest state, California was #2 and Texas was a disappointing #6, behind Ohio. I think it would be New York, not Texas that would get the seat.
 
Funnily enough, Soviet propaganda portrayed all the Western Capitalist Democracies as being the 'soviet republics stacked vote' that adding Ukraine and Belarus actually was.

I can't find the actual poster, but basically it was a really fat American businessman pressing his 'Yes' button at the UN, and it sent a signal that made all the other NATO countries vote 'Yes' while they were sitting in the background counting money.
 
Funnily enough, Soviet propaganda portrayed all the Western Capitalist Democracies as being the 'soviet republics stacked vote' that adding Ukraine and Belarus actually was.

I can't find the actual poster, but basically it was a really fat American businessman pressing his 'Yes' button at the UN, and it sent a signal that made all the other NATO countries vote 'Yes' while they were sitting in the background counting money.

Seem's kind of pointless to stack the general assembly. Nobody really gives a shit about the General Assembly votes.
 
This is not possible because any US state that did not get UN representation would complain about the favoritism shown to those that did. By contrast, Stalin did not have to worry that the other Union Republics would object to unequal treatment if the Ukrainian and Belorussian SSR's got UN seats...
 
I have the feeling that the Soviets would have agreed instantly if it meant that Texas and California would be recognized as legally distinct from the rest of the US. Nice opportunity to fund secessionist movements there.


Yeah them autonomous states is kinda cool, they could use the term republic for them Texas Republic, California republic. They're not commonwealths like Puerto Rico as they still maintain representation as before, but with a level of internal autonomy, taxation, immigration, and their industries and resources even limited foreign policy.
 
Yeah them autonomous states is kinda cool, they could use the term republic for them Texas Republic, California republic. They're not commonwealths like Puerto Rico as they still maintain representation as before, but with a level of internal autonomy, taxation, immigration, and their industries and resources even limited foreign policy.

Considering the time period do ya wanna guess what would be the biggest effect of Texan autonomy? Hint it ryhmes with Miscenegation which also would stay a crime.
 

Wallet

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I have the feeling that the Soviets would have agreed instantly if it meant that Texas and California would be recognized as legally distinct from the rest of the US. Nice opportunity to fund secessionist movements there.
California was a GOP stronghold and fairly conservative. It was home to Nixon and Ronald Reagan was governor. It would for Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and HW Bush in 1988.

California like Texas and all other states weren’t interested in succession I swear to you. Not even the most radical segerganists in the south ever dreamed of succession. Americans were used to a level of prosperity never before seen in human history. They aren’t going to leave the garden of eden.
 
California and Texas voting against America would be, well weird but at different points at time i could see it happening.
 

Tovarich

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The rifles behind every blade of grass will be ready to open fire on "Commies destroying the country".

So Soviet Step 1: Don't fund secessionists (even if they can find any), fund the NRA so they can make an early start tearing America to pieces, a la OTL.

Considering the time period do ya wanna guess what would be the biggest effect of Texan autonomy? Hint it ryhmes with Miscenegation which also would stay a crime.

Soviet Step 2: Once Auto-Texas goes full apartheid, get them suspended from the UN at the same time as South Africa, neutralising half of the USA's bonus.

This Cold War is much more fun than ours was :closedeyesmile:
 
So Soviet Step 1: Don't fund secessionists (even if they can find any), fund the NRA so they can make an early start tearing America to pieces, a la OTL.
That's not how any of this works. Encouraging Americans to be armed hinders rather than advances Soviet objections.


Soviet Step 2: Once Auto-Texas goes full apartheid, get them suspended from the UN at the same time as South Africa, neutralising half of the USA's bonus.

This Cold War is much more fun than ours was :closedeyesmile:
ASB, very much like step 1, but maybe more so.
 
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