Temple of Pallas-Athena

That reminds me here is a listing of Tech in the year 2160 BP that some
nations posess. that ours doesnt at the same time peroid

1) Foot cranked propeller powered Vessels.
2) Napalm kind of (New World greeks find a way to use Pitch in naval combt
3) Triangular sails, deep keel sailing vessels)
4) double cross bow.
5) Wooden Barding for Horses (Front chest only
6) astrolabe. (for navigation)
7) ballista powered Harpoon (whaling is an important ecomonic activity)
8) Dry docking vessels. (athenians had to invent this tech to get across
the atlantic with a limited number of ships.
 
2159 B.P New World House of the First Councilor (Arcadia, New Capital of the new World Athenians, replacing the city of Thurii on the banks of the Cyrene(Hudson) River.

First counselor Lotaneus sat incredulous before the envoy from the Heparites. He asked the envoy to repeat the proposal offered by them.
The envoy's Greek pronunciation had strange intonations, probably aquired from the savages native toungue. He understood pretty well what the
proposal said, he just wanted to be sure that he had not misunderstood.

The Envoy was of dark complexion but had greek features. Even his buckskin tunic was adorned with Greek symbols. He nervously repeated
the proposal of the Heparites.

"Our People as well as yours have enaged in endeless skirmishers over the
years. We know that the Iriquois & Chocktaw attack your collonies to
the far east and north. The land we are custodian of is coveted by three
other parties besides ourselves the Chocktaw, the Men of Memphis and yourselves." The Envoy Eyed that additional staff had entered the hall
and were writing notes. He continued. "Our great Polis-Lord proposes
ceeding Portions of our northern lands in exchange for passage of those
evacuating those lands to Methina (north Coast Brazil' He paused
we would agree to Eventually ceed all the lands in our posession for the
safe passage for all our people to the Lands shown."

Lotaneus looked at Second Counselor Addenas and nodded to him.
"Captain of the guard, take the envoy to the quarters of the stable boy,
tell him it's only for three days and he may sleep in the craftman's wing."

They waited until the Envoy had departed and the 3 senior Councilmen
broke into spirited talking.

"They have tipped their hand, we need only march on them and all their
lands will be ours."

"It would take us so much closer to Memphis, venegeance could be extracted within a few years."

Lotaneus Raised his both his hands at the two others.
"We do not have the manpower to Occupy all of the Lands of the
Heparites even if we were to easily defeat them in combat and did
you notice the envoy wore Broze accoutrements, Their people know how to work metal now (probably a captured greek taught them a century ago)"
he paused to look at the map the Envoy had left on the table.
"On the whole, I would judge the Heparites to be the most dangerous Natives that we face precisely because the union of greek-savage cultures
has given them an edge over the other natives in this land. Now our
people have had relative peace now for a score of years. Arbor Graz and
all the coastal areas are now fully recovered. You know as well as I that
another Major war must be delayed if our people are to regain their breath.

"But the Enemy is admiting he is defeated, is that not a sign of their lack of
fighting spirit" Addenaes pronouced.

"Our Scouts have reported that the Heparites repeatedly defeat incursions
by the Chocktaw, The Heparite spirit is still strong. And I know precisely
why their Polis Lord wants this deal. He knows he cannot fight the greeks and the Chocktaw at the same time."

"But to transport our enemy to safety is madness" the third counselor
suggested.

"What Safety? They want to go the coast of Methina"(north Brazilian coast)
"They will have to fight for land there too. But as we all know no native
tribes can defeat the Heparites in an battle of equal sides."

Addenas Looked at Lotaneous directly
"With their advanced ways of war they might one day rule Much more than
Methina, even the whole southern lands"

"No, my friend although the K'matek who would be their distant neighbors to
the north are primive their vast numbers will prevent this expansion. I don't
think our envoys have heard of K'matek at all. Which is most fortunate for
us. I think this proposal has merrit if handled properly. I will have my scribe prepare a briefing for full council and then take it before the full
assembly. Let us look at this as a gift from the Olympians. Let us Adjourn


Present day Historical Note: By radio Carbon Dating, the City of Chenrda in Methina was probably founded in 2158 B.P. by Heparites However other cities there point to quick development of small cities and villages and massive land clearing. Exactly How this migration of Heparites occured and for what reason is a mystery. Even more mysterious is how they migrated there. Additionally There appears a total disapperance of Heparites from Mineth (Georgia-S. carolina). Some historians had suggested Athenian naval aid. This is not taken seriously, more likely Ordivictian ships were Hired by the Heparites (they did have a appreciable sources of gold) rather than by the Heparites bitter enemies the Athenians.
 
2155 B.P. New World. (on the Leontini River, Near Arcadia)

River Master, Alamdaen had a moment to survey his charges.
One High councilor, an Odovicitian Ambassador, A Calcian Translator
and a Man dressed in what looked like riding attire. He used a
blue crest helmet, the type that had faded in to lore among the
greek of the new world. His 3rd assitant cameby to give him some
news, very quietly and even out of ear shot of any other crew.

"Sir, I can understand the Calcian, though he speaks with a clipped
greek style." The young man looked at the deck and continued
"There is grave news in the old world. All are worried about the
Persians. If I understood correctly, the MEDES has swallowed his
eastern neighbors. All of the Old world have put aside their differences
and have allied as one against the Persian Medes Aramis."

Alamadaen, cocked his head slightly, looking at he Man with Blue Crest.
"Is help that the....Scythians are they called?, seeks? From us?

"that Scythian seems to believe it will not be enough, it is our navy
that would be most usefull to their alliance"

"Only fools barter away their best tools of war, I think it best we gave
their conflict a wide berth. We still need our military here figthing
the Iriquois and Chocktaw. And Memphis in the southern penisula
continues to raid our new southern borders"

"Yes sir, I think all New Greeks here would agree, especially with Grand chief Snow Elk in charge of the Iriquois League." They boy remebered the
stories of the fate of soldiers captures by the Iriquois, quite barbaric.

"Besides our soldiers are trained and armed to fight in wooded fields,
not in the open. it would take many years to develop new fighting
styles fit for the old world.'

"What about Kyshua House, could they not bother the Persians?"

"Boy, do you know how far they are from the Persians, I would
take them a month to just reach them."

The River Master remebered his old friend Master Eutenaeus, master
of the Seas, and the treasure of knowledge he had brouth back from
his epic voyage. The Kyshua House Elders were very clever he thought
they never mentioned who their enemies were. But any master worth
his salt knew that their ships were effiently desinged with war in mind.
There must be someone left in the east who can challenge the Persians
and he had a feeling help them would not please Kyshua House.
 
2143 B.P. New World Near Fubuki ( San Francisco Bay).

Lord Yamagata was looking forward to retirement. Kyshua House
Settlement had grown to 3,000 and that was in his mind a colony
large enough to sustain itself. At last his family would have lands of
their own. He did feel a tinge of guilt at having had a hand in the battle
to drive off the natives, but they had been stubborn and would not
give up one of their favorite hunting grounds. He had met the natives
in friendship, but in light of the opportunity to settle lands here in Fubuki
and aquire estates he had taken a more practical point of view. After all
no matter how friendly, the natives could never be incorporated into
Kyshua house anymore than the Ainu.

The peninsula they had chosen
had great defensive value and room to expand. They had named the main settle ment Hokkanen, and Lord Yamagata estimated that the whole penisula could comfortably support 12,000.
His sons had already staked out the 2 richest fishing banks.
He had seen Fish as larger as man being pulled from those areas.

Something bodered him. While he was honored as a lord, the military
representative from Kyshua House kept interfering with work schedules of
the settlement's carpenters. Too many Millitary Facilties were being built
instead of needed bridges and Granaries. High Warrior Kumano would need a talking to. He was assured by the Court and the colonian writ that his authority included the ability to remove and or replace the highest military officer in the settlement. He was the Govenor of the Region of Fubuki and
his Appointee Lord Tone, was Hokkanen's mayor. He made a quick mental note to send a message to the crews of his earlier expeditions(whose names he still remembered) to keep up their Martial training.
He was nobody's puppet and having strong friends backing you would make
the point to High Warrior Kumano.

Historical Note: Hokkanen appears to have had a civil war about the year
2133 B.P, we know that Lord Yamagata was killed in said civil war, Fortunately the city was by then 11,000 strong and survived this period.
There is no official record of any attempt by the courts in Khyshua house
to send a punitive expedition, to restore a Direct precense. It is more
likely that such an expedition may have perished in transit. And owing
to the cost of sending a large military force, Khysua house may have had
to come to friendly terms with their colony once again.
 
2142 B.P. NewWorld (Aeson Station, Three Rivers area near Pittsburgh)
Closest remaining settlement near Ohio Valley) Early Fall.

Strategemon Gavalas Saluted the Convoy's Guard Captain Arkitsa.
It was the Last of a series of Reinforcements that started in the spring.
He Tallied the Total in his mind. 25,200 Hoplites, 2,100 Cavalry, 4,000
Archers. That was an imense Gathering of strenght. Still it had been
very hard to increase Aeson Station from a Mosdest Settlement of 10,000
to a military Base Housing more than any troops save for the Garrison at Capital of New Wolrd Athenians in Arcadia. It had been done slowly
over an 8 year period, financed by the High Council at Arcadia.
There were many veterans that had wanted to go into action in mid summer and deal an inital blow to the Iriquois Leage and the butcher
Snow Elk.(Why wasnt he Dead? thought Gavalas, he must be 65 at least)
They were unconvinced by his argument that not only troops had not
arrived but supplies and workmen to attend to the needs of a city of
projected to grow to 60,000. Indeed an incentive of 100 Gold Drachma
per Year had to be given as a sweetner for the workment to migrate
as well as Land Grants near Delikas, A former abandoned base at the
foot of the entrance to the Ohio Valley, about 50 miles from here.
His Veterans would protest that the civilian Rabble would get in their
way (they did want the camp doxies to come faster though) and the thing
that would calm them down was that their Ordivictian Allies to the north
were not ready. They all wanted final victory over the Iriquois and
only when their safe haven to the north was attacked too, would the
savages be trully crippled.
Even Waiting till Spring was a bit too soon for Gavalas, He had too
many green soldiers. Thanks to a relative peace for over 20 years
the Athenian Army was in his judgement a bit out of shape. Sure his
veterans were Elite fighters, skirmishing with the Choktaw and Iriquois but
they had not really fought a sustained Engagement. For that matter he
barely remembered his actions as a 17 year old soldier in the the Last major Military action which Drove the Choktaw out of Similis(Georgia) who had tried to take the territory formerly occupied by the Heparites. (he remembered the Heparites and how strange it was that
the Athenian goverment had helped them Re-settle in far offlands.)
Now with Trade and Populaton Booming Both Greeks and Ordivictans viewed the Ohio Valley with a longing. He could not believe the
latest estimate of Athenian Population. 6 million. and about 2 million in the
Oridivictian Colonies. He himself wanted the matter settled permanently
with the Iriquois for like most Greeks he Feared Cartago, but he Dreaded the
prospect of Persian Ships in the New World.
He gave orders to his captains to start drilling the Civilians as well, for they looked too jaunty and careless. It's for their own good he thought
it will probably save their lives if things turnout in unexpected ways.
The then proceeded to find his Wife(a former slave turned athenian citizen,
from the Ordivcitan kingdom) as his old shoulder wound started getting stiff.
It was delightfull that she was both purely a breeder of boys, (4 of them)
and expert in the healing arts. He smiled at his good fortune.
 
MAJOR GLOBAL POWERS POPULATION Wealth & POLITICAL STATUS 2142 B.P.

EUROPEAN AREA______________
pop Wealth
PERSIA 65 million 2,100 GC
RECENT ABSORBTION OF ASIA MINOR & BRUNAN STATE, Reaquired
East AFRICA, LEVANT, PORTIONS OF SCYTHIAN LANDS.
Resettlement of Hebrews, HINDI ALLY LIABILITY

AEGYPTUS 35 million 1000 GC
SOME REAQUISITION OF MID-AFRICAN TERRITORIES, CONSTANT
SKIRMISHES W/ PERSIAN RAIDERS IN THE SINAI.

CARTAGO 26 Million 600 GC
AQUISITION OF WEST AFRICAN LANDS, ESTABLISHMENT OF TWO COLONIES
IN THE NEW WORLD. PEACE TREATY WITH CALCIA & ORDIVICTIANS.

ORDIVICTIAN 22 Million 800 GC
DRAMATIC RISE IN TRADE, RELIABLE MERCHANT CROSSING TO
NEW WORLD BRING GREAT PROFITS. ITS COLONIAL HOLDINGS
HELD BACK BY IRIQUIOS LEAGUE

SCYTHIAN 20 Million 500 GC
CONSTANT BATTLES W/ PERSIA, ELITE CAVALRY KEEP IT FROM BEING
DESTROYED BY PERSIA, KING HAS THREATENED TO JOIN PERSIA,
IF MILITARY ASSISTANCE. FROM OTHERS NATIONS DECLINES.

CALCIA 15 Million 300 GC
STAGNANTION, POLITICIAL INTRIGUE DURING PEACE TIME. THREAT OF
REBELLION FROM ITALIAN PENISULA, ONLY SMALL COLONY
ESTABLISHED IN NEW WORLD

DELOS REPUBLIK 12 Million 280 GC
MAJOR ALLY OF SCYTHIA, PROVIDING HALF of ALL MILITARY TROOPS.
ENEMY OF CARTAGO AS THEY WILL NOT ACCEPT DELOS SHIPS IN
THEIR ATLANTIC PORTS, AND THEREFORE UNABLE TO ESTABLISH
COLONIES IN NEW WORLD. Constatly Raiding ASia Minor Coast

ATHENIAN STATE 6.5 MILLION 200 GC
STILL POSESESS BEST WARSHIPS, BEST LIGHT INFANTRY/ARCHERS.
SKIRMISHES WITH CHOKTAW & IRIQOIS And METHIANS.
WOMEN POSESS 1/2 mans VOTE in COUNCIL.
EXPANSION INTO OHIO VALLEY Prevented by Strong Iriqous
& Choctaw Raids.

HINDI STATE 30 MILLION 100 GC
MAJOR DROUGHTS HAVE WEAKENED STATE, PERSIAN ASSISTANCE
NEEDED TO KEEP HINDI FROM DISINTEGRATING. ALLY IS LARGE
LIABILTY TO PERSIA.

METHION (Fla) 2 Million 20 GC
Originally a mix of Cartago Troops and Greek Captives, Now some Native mixing
Providing Millitary ARMS to CHOCKTAW against ATHENIAN STATE. Has Expanded into
Nearby Islands (CUBA)

ASIAN/AFRICA

LIANG CONFEDRATION 41 MILLION 900 GC
GROWTH SLOWED BY CONSTANT NEED TO SUPPORT QUIN REBELS, IS AWARE OF
PERSIAN EMPIRE, PHILLIPINES NOW A PRODUCTIVE COLONY.

GDHAR KAHANATE 33 MILLION 800 GC
HIGH COST TO MAINTAIN LOYAL PORTIONS OF QIN, FIGHTING A REBELLION IN KOREA.
AND CONSTANLTY BATTLING REBEL QUIN FORCES. LAST KHAN ASSASINATED 2 YEARS
AGO, NEW KHAN CONSIDERING PEACE TREATY WITH QUIN REBELS.

QUIN LOYAL 15 MILLION 150 GC
A PUPPET STATE of G'har Khanate, BEING ROBBED of it's production.

QUIN REBEL 10 MILLION 210 GC
SUCESSFULL AT DEFEATING KHAN ATTACKS. Supported Economically by Liang Conf.

KYSHUA HOUSE 15 million 360 GC
POSESSES Excellent Sailing Vessels, Defeated GDAR Khan Invasion
Indirect Support of Korean Rebellion. Has Recovered from Khan War.
One Colony in the New World (in Penisular San Francisco)

UQUER TANKINZA 6 Million 105 GC
A Rising Millitary/Economic Power Formed out of the Remants of the
Former UQUER MEOM, Favorable Climate Expanding Animal Husbandry.
into Marginal Dessert Lands. 15 Great Clans form basis of Rule.

_______________________________________
Pre-Bronze Age Peoples.
IRIQUOIS LEAGUE 12 Million 50 GC
Most Fearsome Native Warriors, 20 Tribes are part of this League However
7 of tribes Dominate the others. Have Learned to use/breed Horses from
capturedAthenian Stock. Raids on Ordivictian Western most
Farms/Villages causing Abadonment by Ordivctians.

CHOCKTAW Confederateion 15 Million 70 GC
Absorbtion of Cherokee and other neigboring Tribes, Has Encountered a new
Large Organized Tribe, KIOWA. Which has prenvented Their Expansion into
the SouthWest. Skirmishes W Athenian State. Good Relations with Methion.
There is a TRUCE Between them and the Iriquois League,
But not genuine Alliance.


K'MAKTEH 20 Million 120 GC
Major Native Tribe, Had easy Expansions until the Rise of the Kon-CE
INTRIGUE has Weakened Tribal Solidarilty.

KON-CE 8 Million 40 GC
A new Tribe Arising because of their Mastery of Archery and animal Farming
All Large Villages Posess Modest Wood Palisades and Cleared surrounding
land to give Field of Fire. K'makteh Unable to Defeat them militarily
HEPARITES (HELENO-Algonquin) 3 Million 30 GC
This Relocated Tribe has found it Easy to dominate and Take Native lands.
only their Small Size Prevents them from Expanding Rapidly, Some Knowledge of
Metal Working, but only for domestic use and crude leather studded armor,
not Weapons.


HEBREW RESETLEMENT 2 M N_Madagascar 1 GC 2M Ceylon 1 GC
Hebrews shipped to very primitive enviroment. Constant Warafare with
Indigenous Peoples. Many deaths due to transit, hostile enviroment.
result of treaty of ceasefire with persia.

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2141 B.P New World (south of Lexigton, KY)

Turtleback waited for his scout to send him news of the
white men's path.
He had a skirmishing band of 200 warriors with him, but his instructions were
clear from Chief BlueSwan. He was not attack the white men unless they crossed the Me-Agadi (Ohio) river. For a Chowtaw to hold his war temper was a feat. No wonder the chief had sent him instead of QuickSnake thought Turtleback.

He thought of the glory Quicksnake was earning in Ab-ta (Georgia) with his braves. Maybe he could entice the white men to come across. He threw a piece of dried fowl in disgust as it had spoiled in spots. Finally the scout threw out the signal of aproach. Turtleback respected his scout even though he was not a particularly good warrior. He could swim, run for hours and had from prisoners even learned some of the
white's words.

"High warrior the enemy does not prepare to move from the banks of the River." Scout ThinFox reported. "They are still Cutting & Moving trees, some of their structures are going to be very large."

Turtleback did not like the news one bit. He did have experience attacking small villages in Ab-ta and he knew that the white's TreeWalls made them Invulnrable to raids of his size. They would need 1,000 warriors to do anything to such a place. He did not have the authority to call for a union of other forces spread out along the River as far as 20 leagues from here.
What he was about to do might cost his life, he tribunal council might demand it.

"ThinFox, gather the other scouts"
Once the Scouts had gathered Turtlebak announced:
Send the other high warriors my words:

"I will not allow the white's to settle so easily at night
or day along the river. We must prevent their TreeWalls,
make them retreat from the river. I am taking the first step, I trust that any other white encampment near your will be razed by the ferocity of your warriors."

He turned to ThinFox. I must send you to Chief Blue Swan and the council, they must know of my actions. Tell them we will need more warriors to replace the fallen. And if they request my life, tell them to send my replacement and I will return to face the council tribunal.


Historical Note: There is evidence that the Large Attack on the Iriquois in 2141 B.P. was planned as a much larger and ongoing
operation. Most Military historians doubt that the Athenians intended to engage BOTH the Choctaw & Iriquois in the Ohio valley. More likely the attacks on the Chocktaw were provoked as a reaction to the Natives hostile actions during
that campaign. In any event it is clear the History of that century would have been signficantly different had the Athenians been content to enage just the Iriquois.
 
2138 BP NewWorld Athenian Port of Dyina on the banks of the Cyrene(Hudson)River Near ArborGraz (Long Island)


Trader Aretes was mad at the Athenian Council. How could a merchant
expect to turn a profit with the levees on goods traveling up river. He accepted it when, in his youth, Arbor Graz was being rebuilt. In the end
he thought it never fully recovered it's former glory. Once there had been
150,000 living there. But the council had decided that it would serve best
as a Military Training Base. Because it had large expansive open areas
the new Athenian Army as his nephew described it, like to play at war on
a large scale. Using sometimes 10,000 men in training maneuver.
Aretes didn't really see the need. They were training for open combat with ample room. Our native enemies do not fight that way, he thought.
And who is the enemy now that we need such training. Persians, this
was the bogeyman parents still taught to their children. No adult Athenians believe any Persians will show up at out door step for many generations.
The Official was about to board his ship to asertain his cargo and
the goverments share. He was accompanied by 4 guards, big and
Lean they looked to Aretes.
"Master Aretes may I see your manifest."
Aretes handed over his parper work.
30 crates Oranges....50 Rolls of PorkLoin...50 bales of dyed cloth...

The official came to an item he very much needed and his guards too.
Boots, well made from the Ordivictian colonies up north, that fine seal
leather top and musk hide lining made them a luxury item in the winter.
The Official just said Boots and the Merchant pointed to a covered
crate. The official placed 8 pairs sureptisiously into his day bag. He
thought he was being generous leaving the merchant with 36.

Aretes was not suprised, but he did not like it. Even though the official
discounted his levee a bit. It did not come close to making up for the
loss of a portion of his most profitable goods. He could remember a time
long ago when the reach of the Council of Arcadia was not so long.
How can they not know how many merchants can go out business if
the hand of their agents gets too sticky. He had known more than few
traders that decided to leave trading and go inland and start a farm.
Competition from The Ordivictian and newly arrived Calcian Traders added
to his worries. He obcourse had defenses on his boat and could have
dispatched the Officous Oaf and his minions. Perhaps it is time to take
an interest in politics. He was a lowly one-of-many in the assembly of 2,000 at the capital. He had never really attended regulary. And maybe that is the mistake of the Assembly, too busy to really hold the high council
accountable. If things keep up, thought Aretes, we may ruled by the
High Council only. Perhaps change is in order.....

Preesent Historical Note: Assemblyman Aretes is a comon name and figure placed in Coins of New Athenian State. It is clear he was an important political figure but details of his actions and beliefs are piecemeal.
 
SHIP TECHNOLOGY

AN OPINION FROM ME that most Here would agree on. Technology is driven by war, trade, Cultural Adaptabilty. In this time line the naval vessel of all the euro-asian empires in contact with Athenians of the New World have been trying to catch up to the Athenians who for very good reasons continually try to improve their vessels & their armaments.

Khyshua House (Japan) is the only rival to the naval advancement of the Athenians, so they are compared here side by side.


FROM A SCHOLARLY JOURNAL DATED: 61 BP Univesity of Leontini.

Comparison of Naval Technology From the classical Period of 2137 BP,
Athenian & Kyshua House



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2130 B.P. Old World Meotz (Acre) 12th Prefecture of the Persian Empire

The Medes of all of persia was a patient man. For years he had been
building up his naval forces from this protected penisula. It had taken
10 years to build up the Massive Jetty that protected the harbor. Indeed
the jetty was large enough to place a modest wall on top, affording extra protection in addition to the fortress. The Meotz fortress was one of his favotire lesser capitals. It had an aestectic quality that was unequaled by others. He turned his attention to the report of his scouts. He supposed
he should be alarmed by the news of Wild Greeks in the New World. New
Athenians as it where. If Persia were as weak as during his Grandfather's
time he would worry about their vengeange. He did not know what the geeks of in his empire would think. Most of the greek world was absorbed into the will of the Medes of Old, and he doubted there would be much
kinship between them. But the did not have time to dwell on greeks.
In addition to the naval build up against Aegypus on the Medtearranean,
he was worried by developments in his Northern Frontier and the east.

A new aggressive tribe had been menacing trades routes to the Ghar
Kahante. It had been a small matter when he was a boy. But now
the Kosovack's where on his north in large numbers. It was strange
that there were so many. The land up north had been know for it's
dryness and lack of foraging. There had been scattered nomads eeking
out a living there, but nothing like these new people's the Medes thought.
His General's and engineers estimated that they must use covered water channels to create their settlements in near desserts.Well he
thought find those channels and end their existance. They had tried to do so for 3 years and for small results. The problem as he understood was that
his army had to take water with them while the enemy had his nearby.
A large army could only go a short distance before returning to large
water supply, while a smaller nimbler detament could go far, but would
be at risk at being anhiliated (at it almost happened to the Hevar Detachment last year) His Generals wanted him to build his own water channels, but his engineers demured saying that the Manpower involved would be large because the water would have to be pushed Up Course.
The Medes had agreed it would cost too much. He would give the current
strategy another 2 years.
Annother concern was the New Empire they had just accepted diplomats from. The Liang Confederation was agressive, excellent Jungle fighters, and
was rich in resources. They had weaknesess, Poor Cavarly, it's soldiers were lightly armed. For now Persia's Hindi Allies were in Direct contact with them, but considering the Pedestrian Qualitity of the Hindi Army it did not
reasure the Medes. He began to regret having the Best Hindi General covertly assasinated last year. The Medes thought it best to put up his
empire's best diplomatic face, as he was pretty sure the Liang Confederation had enemies too.

But now his attention turned to the New Wolrd. Three Empires posess colonies on that part of the world in addition to the wild greeks. Such
a great expense by them must have a justification, he thought.
He grabbed a Medes Warrant and Wrote Thusly to his best agent:

Sepia of Arolis, you will be given command of large trading vessel with a crew that speaks calcian. You will infiltrate to the west, and thence to
the new world. You will live in the new world for 3 years. You find out
details of interest to the matters of state. Upon your return you will be
given the Estate of Noelis on the Lycian Coast. each of your crew will receive equivalent of 25 years Pay of a royal guard.
May Fortune Favor you: Medes Parafesis

He gave the warrant to the palace Altern with instructions to gather all that
was neccesary for the endeavor. He remebered stories by his grandfather that before the REFORMS, The threat to hostages, or beheadment was enough to encourage great feats from persians. It was deemed that
reward was the better motivator, for dangerous missions because.
those under duress tended to never.come.back. and help.the.enemy.
 
NewWolrd: 55 B.P. University of Thurii:

ATLAS OF New World ATHENIAN
CAMPAIGNS INTO LYSIAN LANDS (Ohio),

The estimated Year is 2141 B.P the illustraion below shows the Attempt by ancient Athenians and Ordivictian to Anhilate the Iriquois league
.
Two Athenian & one Oridivictian Battle Forces Attemped to envelop the strongest members of the League. The campaign faltered due to heavy pressure from chocktaw raids unpon the southern prong of the
offensive. The descision by Stragememon Gavalas to pursue the
chocktaw resulted in enough disarray to the envelopment so that
a large portion of the Iriquois tribes escaped. In his defesense
Gavalas related to his accusers in the high tribunal, that they were not
raids, but full attacks which only got stronger as the months passed.


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Adding another set of technologies in addition to the ones below
Plus Another Historical event related in a story below that.

Year 2129 B.P. Improtant Technology advancemnt in this timeline.

1) Foot cranked propeller powered Vessels. (NewWolrd Athenians, Ordivictians who took great pains to find the Athenians secrets in this area.

2) Napalm kind of (New World greeks find a way to use Pitch in naval combt
3) Triangular sails, deep keel sailing vessels) Kysua House
4) double cross bow.
5) Wooden Barding for Horses (Front chest only
6) astrolabe. (for navigation)
7) ballista powered Harpoon (whaling is an important ecomonic activity)
8) Dry docking vessels. (athenians had to invent this tech to get across
the atlantic with a limited number of ships. (Athenian concept gradually
spreading in the old world.

Adittionally,

Metallurgy at the level comporable our Roman Iron Age. (New World Athenians benefited from contact with Old world in this case)

Early primitive Small spyglasses, about 5x maximum. Fragile
and expensive because most attempts at creating lenses fail.

Concrete that sets in seawater

Cloth that is very resistant to salt water damage.


(OLD World, Near the Sinai, Aegyptus). 2128 B.P.

Coleth the Engineer assitant took a long drink from the water bag and
surveyed the fortess walls. He was sure they would withstand anything
the Persians could throw at it. As his master Arodis said now there
is something of value for it to guard.
He had been working on the canal project for 20 years. He had
heard stories of the Grand Underground Aqueduct that was built over a century ago, but that was child's play. He knew the numbers, over
40 millions Cystre of Earth Moved, 4 million FullStone placed to build the
canal. He estimated it had cost he lives of 50,000 slaves to build it.
He did not mind that all the credit was going to Arodis. Even though
it had been his "invention" that would keep f Maintenance of the
canal at one tenth the estimated cost. He knew that would be the key
to canal's sucess, based on prior attempts to build smaller tributary
canals. His filtering gates were inspired a touch by the Grand Aqueduct
but the Aqueduct had never to contend with Salt Water and a Tide.
It would ensure the safety of Aegyptus. His people would be able
to move Ships Men and materials to whence a threat came in either
the Metre (Mediterean) sea and Red sea. There had been a great haste
at the end to finish, but he did not know why, A threat from Idiira (East
Africa) or Persia?. What lies beyong throught the red sea route Persia he thought, Allies he hoped.
 
2124 B.P. New World Near Methian/Chocktaw border (Georgia/Alabama)

High Warrior Red Lizzard awaited the White Allies of his tribe. He detested the "Advisor" as their leader had called himself. In Red's opinion the white leader was warrior of no note but he had the power to dispense valuable weaponry that the chocktaw had urgent need for. His tribe would need such deliveries for a full year daily to arm them all with the hard weapons of the whites. The Advisor would only provide once per full
moon. Red did not believe the lies of the whites about there being a
scarcity of weapons makers. He never saw a white "methian" war party
armed with lesser native weapons.
He had talked about the problem with the Grey Tree council. The
aggresiveness of the Kiowa was sapping Choctaw Strength. More than
half of the New Weapons were used on the Kiowa. It was the only way
to halt their relentless attacks. He wondered what made the Kiowa fight
so desperately, maybe hunger. Another tribe in the west Pushing them into Choctaw lands?. Red Lizzard thought the solution was to move the
Choctaw nation into a full war frenzy on the Kiowa and destroy them. But he was too low on the council to oppose current custom of raiding the
Athenians near the harvest time. It certainly kept them from growing too
large. But the enemy whites still made progress and their tree fortified
towns were difficult to attack. He had no doubt that with the Choctaw fully armed with white weapons the southern lands of the Athenians
would be captured. The Elders had tried to find the secret of making
hard weapons. Choctaw made hard weapons, were never good enough to be of much use except in ceremonies. His people knew that among
the materials they traded to the whites were the ingredients used in the
hard weapons. Still quite a few attempts this season had come closer than ever to replicating white weapons. It might take many years but
he was confident the secrets would be found.
He now spotted the Advisor's party. He was startled to see that
it was many times larger than customary. For a moment he thought
he would be under attack. But upon closer look, he saw that there
were extra "wagons" as the white called them, But not extra troops.
The Advisor approached and his translator moved besides him.
"Red Lizzard, my elders send special weapons to you as gift for
to your tribes bravery and greatness." The Advisor produced what
looked to Red Lizzard a heavy sword and a very long Spear.
He asked how the Spear was used, and just as he thought it was
a weapon of Horse, not foot.
There were other minor weapons but the Advisor pulled out something
that looked like an red fruit to Red Lizzard. The white Advisor
pulled a white thread and threw the fruit at a tree some distance away.
The hard fruit broke apart and a dark fluid exploded with fire that starlred him and engulfed the lower tree trunk. The white's aides threw water on the fire to quench it.
The Advisor presented two wagons full of those Hard Fruit. They
were not to get wet, and had to be used before the next moon. Red
Lizzard saw the pain he would inflict on the Athenians with such a weapon
and promised himself that he himself would cast the first hard fruit at
the Athenians even if it cost him his life.

Present Historical Note: Southern Athenian Towns excavated from over two millenia ago, reveal that some palisades had burned with an accelerant as well as some remains of buildings. They coincide with evidence of Choctaw attacks.
It seemed to be of great sucess and we have found over 3 dozen other sites of the same time period. And coincides with a major Incurson by the
Choctaw into the most southern boundary of Athenian settlements.
Athenians soon after adopted a double walling tactic with the inner wall
being lower but made of stone/clay materials, in such settlements fire
damage has been found to be minimal.
 
2122 B.P. Old World Near Genas (Genoa)

It was perfect, the enemy was exposed and although had scouts trying
to find his force, General-Soldier Parini's well disiciplined Troops were as still and invisible as the wind today. Now, He gave the signal.
In ten minutes the enemy's escape routes along the coast were cut off. His main force of 10,000 in center was the hammer to his twin anvils
on either side of his enemy. He had given instructions to accept surrenders from Calcian Troops. After all, some of them were distant kin.
But Parini knew that the Calcian leadership had treated the people south
of the Alps with ill-regard. They had left them to fend off Scythian Privateers by themselves. And kept raising the levees taxes required each year, until rebellion of Italia was inevitable. Parini did not believe the
pleadings of the leadership in Parisen, that the Calcian new world colonies protection demanded a larger army and navy. Did not those colonies breed men of fighting age by now?.
The battle was joined and his center kept driving the enemy to the shore. It could hardly be otherwise, The shore was only 3 miles away. How foolish of the enemy to not attempt to invade by sea rather than risk being ambushed on the coastal route to Italia. He saw the standard of
the enemy commander in the distance on a small hill. That would be
Commander Izzax, who was rallying his fraying wings quite effectively.
A scout came up to inform him that one of his forces blocking the retreat of the enemy was under heavy attack. He realeased his final
reserves of 1,000 men, to assist that flank. Meanwhile the enemy center
wavered but held well enough to keep a rout from developing. He sent
another scout to his forces on the other flank of the enemy and gave orders for them to attack at all costs.
An hour later came word of a collapse of the enemy flank. In good time as his own losses were becoming significant. At last he saw it, the
signal of truce was raised from enemy Commander's location. The enemy had been driven to a 1/2 mile from the shore and he thought was about to
break and rout. His scouts estimated his losses at 1,500 casualties, they estimated the enemy had 7,000 casualties maybe 6,000 to individual
surrenders by enemy sections. The Calcians had sent a force of 25,000
to make an example in northern Italia. Parini was certain that if he gave
parole all surrendered soldiers, most of whom were from Masilla, the vast majority would gather their families and come live in Italia, as the Calcian leadership frowned upon defeated armies. He wondered if this was the last of the punitive attacks by the calcian leadership.

Present Historical note:

It is surprising to most scolars of antiquity how long Greater Calcia lasted as a state. During the last decade of intact existance, goverment funding needs drove mercantile and farming levees to a point of exaustion.
Indeed, the cost to Calcia in aquiring colonies in the new world in the end
cost it most of its mediterranean posessions. Fortunately for them Italia became embroilled in a territorial dispute with the Republic of Delos, over
Trenat Provinces (Around Trieste). Otherwise a quick push toward Parisen
might have finished Calcia altogether.
 
2119 B.P. MAP OF NEW WORLD BORDERS.

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2118 B.P. OLD WORLD (Memphis Capital of Aegiptus)

A feast was ordered. 1,000 bulls were sacrified, 10,000 slaves were
freed (mostly from Military Support Duties). The struggle against the
Great Persian Menace was over for now. King Perdrase felk just joy
on this day. The Rebellious Portions of Persian on the West, with
support from Aegyptus and Scthians, had broken free. The new State
carved out of parts of Persia was called Kingdom of Etua. The Aegyptian King though the Persian problems with the harvest must have been
severe, and his military advisors told him about very effective raiders
attacking Perisan cities close to their sacred homelands. The pressure
must have been too great, and the Rebel forces too disgusted with
the Confiscation of so much Western wealth and treasure, to stem the
tide of the fall. To be sure King Perdrase thought Persian could still be
a menace, but with their Navy finally destroyed They were going to be
hemmed in. It had been tough to negotiate a peace treaty with
the Scythians, having suffered the longest at the point of the Persian
Spear. It took a marriage between Etuan Princess & the Crown Prince
Meros to pacify the situation.
Obcourse the King had A problem. His Navy was overlarge compared
to Ageyptus' needs. Half of it would have to be demobilized, pending
a treaty forbiding war Vessel on the mediterranean. He had enough
money to pay them through a half year. (courtesey of their Cousins in
Cartago, who had always given monetary support (and Poor Troops) to
keep Persia at bay. Now the money would stop. Still such a great
naval force should not be entirely reduced like that. Perhaps they
could be used to found colonies on (Madagascar) a rich land which could
produce much wealth overtime. He was glad that option was open.
He had been worried that with New World Colonies out of reach, the
more Western powers would become Invulnerable with their growing
wealth. It bothered him still that colonization was so well developed
in the new world. Dont those people on distant shores have any ambition
other to being a humble servant to their home states?. If he could find
a way to Forment Rebellion in the New World, the tables might be leveled.
His gaze concetrated on The Ordivictian & Cartago New wolrd Possesions.
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New World: 2117 B.P.
Capital of New World Athenians (Arcadia, 100 miles SSW of Lynchburg)

The High Counselors Were Uncofortable in the Summer heat, and Some expressed a wish to depart quickly to their Own Homes.
But First counselor Etenaos needed to plant a seed in their minds
if nothing else was acomplished today. The meeeting came to order and the 10 others slogged to their seats.
"I have heard of the request of the general Assembly to create a feasting day on the 1st week of the 5 month, celebrate the downfall of Persia, and to begin accepting Greeks of the old world into
our lands." There were many nods of concurrence at the table. "Let me give you my view on the feast. Firstly it is unwaranted as Persia still survives albeit at less than half her former
strenght, sencondly, Persia ceased to be our Primal Enemy about the time the major powers of the old world began estabilishing colonies in the new world. Thirdly, New World Athenians had nothing
to do with the Victorious side. No Troops were sent, no ships sailed." Etenaos shifted in his seat.
"So I ask you what exactly is to be celebrated?".

"You think our Allies the Ordivictians a threat? Intimated High Counselor Ounardios.

"You've traveled to their colonial holdings up north. You know very well that with their short growing season their colony is retarded in wealth and growth. Only the gold and Furs flowing from
Indian traders keep them a good investment for the Ordivictian King." Etenaous Stood.
"We must be realistic, we hold the best lands for farming crops and animals compared to all other old world colonies. I think we will come into comflict with the Ordivictians or with Cartago at some
point in the coming century."

"Are you suggesting that attack them? asked another HIgh counselor
"Do you think we should ally with the savages?" asked Ounardios
"No, but I must tell you that we must not weaken Iriquois any further, Although our assault on the Iriquois gained us the Lysan Lands (ohio) it was, If I may say Functionally a much better result for
the Odivictian King's colonies as great threat was lifted from them . Now Our Eyes should turn to the Chocktaw in full measure and not help the Ordivictians Kings Colonies in any way."
"As to letting Old World Greeks settle on our lands, I am not opposed, but consider how Medicised
those greeks that lived under persian rule for over 300 years. I submit that only Younger pairs should be
are allowed to emigrate and in small numbers, to our frontier areas. We Hacked our lands our the wild woods, they should have to do the same."
The Meeting continued on other matters but Etenaos was please that they were now more thoughtfull and alert. I think I put a doubt into their minds he thought. Good.

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2112 B.P. Arbor Graz, Near Platatea. At Naval Port of Euteneaus.

Caradarix Cyclades, Though about home and how wreched it had been.
He did not miss, downing trees almost everyday, to create more farmland, drilling in the militia every third day, thin meals of winter, Chowtaw
ambushes killing some of his childhood friends. No decent looking females
and worse a shortage of women. And money, no money for even shoddy
Ordivictian wares.
His fortune has certainly been improved, since applying an joining the
Athenian Navy. True he did not have a high ranking. But he was paid.
At shore after Naval Maneuvers were over, warm food, and a cot in a room that was even with 4 others twice as warm and less corrupted in
the aroma of the living, than his own home. He was unlikely to ever hold
a high rank. He was after all, a son of female ordivictian slave, who while
techically freed, still amounted to 3rd class citizenship, even though his
father has been a respected if modest athenian merchant. Perhaps if his
father had been a military man, he might have gotten a commision for
Steersman or even Assitant Shipmaster. He was not bitter. He had
a future here in the heart of Athenian Naval power. He had found a
girl, a true greek, though from a poor family, and her looks well if he looked
her in the eyes and nothing else she was fine. After all in the darkness all
women tend to be warm soft and round.
His commanding officer approached. Looking a bit worried and in a hurry
"Mister Cyclades, go to the Hightower and tell the superintendant to sound alarm number 6" after you've done that, comeback on board and prepare to warm the pitch"
"Sir, will we be in battle soon." said he as he climbed down the lookout
position"
"I expect so, the Methians, have raided our lands near
Dubra(Potomac river)" we are giving chase.
As Caradarix, ran to the Hightower, he wondered what madness would drive the Methians to raid so far north. Athenian Naval vessels were 5 knts
faster than anything the Methians had. Hee hoped they could be found.

Historical Note: Toward the later portions of their expansions, the Methians became extremly skilled at navigation. There are many accounts of a handfull of their vessels raiding Athenian, Ordivictian
settlements, and most of the time they got away with treasure and slaves
The Athenians appear to have responded with building very fast light
ships, basing them upriver and nearby potential targets. While the raids
were controlled, they still sapped the morale of the Athenians, but also
drove them to seek a decisive course of action against the Methians.
 
2111 B.P. Old World, Salyut, Eastern Persia

The Medes of the Persians was short on patience with his Scouts.
conflicting reports, suspect information, some feeling to enemy hands.
He let the current scout, One Lorayi, continue his report after silecing him.

"I beg your pardon Medes, but it is true, Your 2nd cousin has pledged
for the Kingdom of Etua." He took 5 cohorts of experienced men with him he Aparenlty is to wed a Etuan Royal Princess."

"Scout, there seem to be an endless supply of Etuan Royal Princesses, could they not be Raiding their brothels?." Smirked the Medes.

"No sir, I feasted my eyes on one of them, Not ravaged nor Used did they
look. but Sir a more urgent matter, Had heard from a Trader that the
Our Enemies the Kosovacs No longer enter our lands..and.

"Obcourse they don't enter our lands, Idiot Scout!!", burst our the Medes, "Most of it is not Scythian or Etuan Holdings, Now I wish to speak with
my spies, Depart with haste."

The scout beat a quick retreat.

The Medes, needed to be sure of something. His Spy Orlayen approached.
"what news have you from our Bruni holdings."

"Our dominion there is secure sire, the governors are too preoccupied with
maintaining what they have to even think about confederating and challenging Persian Rule" the Spy Paused. "I have even heard that those
people are fmally paying significant tribute, some have complained about it."

For the first time in a month the Medes smiled. The west maybe gone, even some parts of the homeland. But with Kosovacs distracted elsewhere, he could rebuild. Other great Medes had done so, so too
Medes Dorinyer would restore great glory for Persia.

He thought about reports earlier in the day about those powerful
New World, Athenians. Damnable Greeks. How did the Aegypitans
build that canal that was instrumental in persias defeats. A greek
built it. No Damnable ReedDwelling Eypytian did that. And the Kosovacs
Fought with cunnng and in great order, Greek style. Did these New
World Athenians have Agents within his very sphere of influence.
He calmed down after remembering how many Greek soldiers had died for
persia in the last 10 years. Yes they could be loyal under proper Persian
stewardship.
Another though came to him. These New Wolrd Athenians seem to be
an ascending power. Perhaps they could used, afterall persia is no threat to them in her current state. He could use a powerful entity across the
seas to distract Cartato and Aegyptus. He would send Agents too to
the new worlds too, who can wisper about the threat from cartago and
how the Ageypitans covet their holdings. That thought put a spring in
his step, and concetrated on a noontime meal.
 
MAP and INFO

2109 BP World political map.

Points of interest:

A) Spyglasses are now much more common

B) Athenians Naval vessels have only a modest tech advantage over
Methian and Ordivictian vesels, at this time

C) New world athenian/immigrant population, 9 million

D) Ordivictian Colonial population 3 milion.

1) GDHAR KHAN has fractured and now consists of
and inland portion, called khun shan.

2) Quin Lam and Quin Sun have drifted enough appart
to be two states (one part had been occupied by Ghdar for 100 years)

3) Persia is now reduced to a small rebdout plus it's weak brunan Territory.

4) Etua is a kindom created by treaty between aegyptus, Scythians, Delos
Republic, and Persian viceroys.

5) Liang confederation is hampered by a recurring drought.

6) Unlabeled ovals in central asia are a mysterious steppe peoples who
seem to have mastered dessert/warfare. and vare ery good on horse.
They are also contributing factor to the demise of persia.

7) the calcian colony was conqured by the Methians which now controll
Florida and the carribean. (remember the methians are descendants of a defeated cartatago (barely)invading army and captured athenians females)

8) KIOWA are the bane of the Chocktaw, very fortunate that some advanced
technology has been "figured out" by the choktaw council and their weapons are better than all other native armies, but much strenght is diverted
to controlling the kiowa horde. (6906)

MAP CORRECTION METHIANS ARE IN THE CARRIBEAN ____NOT IN ASIA PACIFIC...graphics error.
KYSHUA HOUSE controlls lower koka penisula and sakkalin.

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