Two websites, ancientscripts and paleoaliens. no clue how credible they are.
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Might be worth trying the Cuneiform Digital Library Initiative: https://cdli.ucla.edu
Interesting world map, much like on Earth you'd probably see civilisations becoming shaped by the geography of their respective areas especially when you start to account for resources that are most likely to be found in certain regions. The various Hatar Seas north of much of the civilisation you've placed so far are probably going to be the home of most of the wealth for some time much akin to the Mediterranean in OTL, this will especially be the case around the Mediterranean climate Pelasian and Thalmedic seas (i dont know if there is a name for them as collectively they are basically a Tellarus equivalent of the great lakes when you add the Scyllic and Nuragian seas). The Katal Rift creates a very interesting geopolitical issue however in that whoever controls the end segment of said rift for what looks like it will be quite some time will determine who is even allowed to access those seas from the Katal Sea as most likely the end point of the rift will become some kind of Constantinople style city, except with boats unloading on one side and loading onto a new boat on the other (that rift is also 100% going to become a suez canal at some point). The result being that 'Persian' style empire will probably be stupid wealthy for quite a while until the global GDP centre shifts north and east towards the mouth of the Nuragian sea and the Tavaric Ocean, which it will because eventually the various Rhodin civilisations will work out that if they follow the Ashufe Islands they come across an entire other continent to exploit and trade with which will make the Bay of Fornesta on the east side of the Tavaric and Hybras on the west side major centres of trade. Once Talamor is discovered too you'll begin to see a steady decline of the Katal Rift's economic and geopolitical value. While it will remain important for trade with the various civilisations in the Sea of Katal it's importance for trade on the world stage will decline proportionally just as it did when they discovered America in OTL. The discovery of Talamor however will happen much earlier than the equivalent discovery of the Americas on earth (by europe anyway) as the Ashufe Islands provides a nice trail of breadcrumbs to the continent, some viking style bloke or trader will eventually try his luck at crossing before heading along the coast of the Sea of Theas - even if that one gives up due to there only being desert for much of the coast eventually someone will find the more valuable Cape Tatso.
There is going to be a long and significant clash over the Sorgan mountains which will act as a natural barrier between Serica and Ahurastan, any Serican civilisation will likely come out on top regardless though as to invade across from Ahurastan you're either going to have to cross a desert first or go down a pretty narrow gap of land south of the Transerican mountains (themselves impassable for any army for many hundreds, if not thousands of years) which will just become a bottleneck. My guess would be that the 'Persian' Empire you see will likely clash there with the Kingdoms developing in Central Serica much akin to Greece vs the Persians on Earth. The smaller, brown-ish empire in the south Serica Sea or it's northern counterpart however will be the state that conquers most of Serica once they begin to exploit their more economically valuable coastline and very nicely sheltered sea there. I imagine a 'roman' style empire would develop there over time.
Nobody is going to go south of the Ahura deserts for a long time imo, any civilisations that emerge there will likely end up as likely quite large and uninterrupted countries stretching from the Ksack Peninsula to Avarda who are only large because nobody sees the point in conquering them as they'll be worth nothing and lowly populated (much like Arabia). Southern Avarda, as seen in that GIF, will probably be the most valuable southern region of Serratar but will struggle due to the fact their only means of trading with the Hatarian Seas will be, as aforementioned, through the Katal Rift which will mean any empire there can just deny them access if they want to. You may actually eventually see some King decide he wants to take the rift tbh just to maintain access. Southern Avarda will just shift southwards eventually though and begin to trade with/conquer/colonise Capricornia while trading with the civilisations that will emerge in southern Rhodin.
Interestingly Malag and South Ozaran will probably remain quite untouched for a long time if empires do not develop there due to the Guadul Desert acting as a natural barrier and the Verdant sea being a pretty large obsticle between the more 'civilised' Rhodin and the region. The Great Plains of Talamor will probably be run by nomads for a **long** time as the Aephyr Mountains present a huge natural barrier akin to having the American Rockies in the east rather than the west which will stop much colonisation from the west until Colum Valley is properly developed. Therefore unless a civilisation develops there that manages to harness the coastline that region will probably remain pretty poor, divided and nomadic until someone comes along and colonises from across the Lautian. This is especially the case due to it's largely flat and thus indefensible nature which will make being a nice little coastal town beneficial but any other form of fixed settlement past the South Chenpala Mountains pretty pointless and subject to constant attack by raiders and nomads. The 'bridge of jewels' probably therefore wont be very valuable for some time, especially as the Tullqash desert and more importantly the Inqil Hills will block it from being a very valuable trading route onto Equatoria from Talamor with any civilisation in the Laethanian Peninsula more likely just expanding up and down the Talamor coast until they get good enough ships to just sail around the Tullqash desert to southern Equatoria.
Anyway, really cool map!! - btw i love mini-egypt
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They're pretty much just ancient Egypt for now, for the beginning of history most things are gonna be kinda simple lol. My goal for now is to make basic outline of history and flesh it out more when I think of things to add to it. If you can think of any Egyptian-sounding names for Pharaoh and Gods/Goddesses, shoot them my way. Same for the other cultures/civilizations
Previous timeline updates threadmarked and updated with a little more information/context. Years 1250 to 1570 will be coming tonight or tomorrow. Happy Halloween everyone!
Timeline (1250-1570 AF)
c.1225 AF: Animal herders and farmers settle the northern tip of Ozara.
1225 AF: Kyngir completely conquers the Miscayan Valley and southern Esirta, expanding their great empire. Tymria also expands at this time. The city of Sutarba is one of the last to fall, only falling this year.
1231 AF: A revolt in the Neo-Kyngiran Empire sees Akwar defeated by Surun, which becomes capital of the empire and takes the Kingship there.
c.1230 AF: Tymrian Kings lose a majority of their power, and decentralization occurs.
1238 AF: An eclipse is recorded in Serica this year. Used by later astronomers to help historians date Chūn-era events.
c.1250 AF: Wooly Mammoths are critically endangered in northern Sibirica.
1271 AF: The Emperor of Chūn is assassinated by a warlord from a nearby tribe. The warlord becomes emperor while the original heir flees.
1284 AF: Kyngir's empire collapses when invaders from Esirta attack and Surun's dynasty is wiped out along wth the city itself. Sutarba, Nidunu, Akwar and Nagshe break free and Esirta reconquers it's lost lands.
1288 AF: Akwar is defeated and burned down by invading Edadians.
1298 AF: A large flood occurs on the Yùjiāng (Jade River) in Serica. The Chūn Dynasty is crippled by this, but in ther later decades afterwards experiences a resurgence in prosperity.
c.1300 AF: Rasan society begins to weaken and decline. Migrations force people from the north to settle on the border of the Rasan.
1300 AF: Ancestors of the Achtomec people of southwest Talamor begin making beverages from cacao.
1305-1315 AF: Tyrmia and Kaerm go to war for about a decade.
1306 AF: The original heir to the Chūn dynasty return to reclaim his throne but fails and is killed. The Warlord Emperor (no name yet) intermarries with his family to cement his claim.
1318 AF: The Nasenite people found the city of Sytha in the northwestern part of their lands in southern Lotan, it becomes their capital.
c.1320 AF: Most Rasan port cities, like Ehulim and Kutarim, are abandoned.
c.1320 AF: The Gandao Kingdom creates its first calendar, based off Ersa's lunar cycle.
1328 AF: The city of Kadimar is founded, near the old ruins of Nissar.
1330 AF: The capital is Serica is moved to Yuánjīng this year from Chángchūn.
1335 AF: Chūn armies reach the West Serican Sea this year while subduing nearby tribes.
c.1340-1350 AF: A great famine in Uhaakin causes people to settle the northern coastlines near Tymria.
c.1350 AF: Ancestor veneration becomes the dominant religious practice in Chūn Serica. Their soldiers begin using armor around this time as well.
c.1350 AF: Iron tools are introduced. This marks the ending of the Bronz Age and the beginning of the Iron Age.
c. 1350 AF: The Nasenite people settle to the north of Neathuq, civilizing like their southern neighbors.
1352 AF: Barbarians besiege Yuánjīng this year but are defeated thoroughly.
1365 AF: Tymria goes to war with Kaerm, invading three times in the next 5 years.
1370 AF: The city of Kaerm itself falls to Tymria, forcing the Kaerm people to move their capital south to Wedeb.
1370 AF
The NASENITE culture develops north of Neathuq, expanding the civilized world north and west. RASAN breaks up and shrinks as their society begins to destabilize. KYNGIR has completely collapsed, with many independent Katalic and Miscayan city-states, predominantly SUTARBA, filling the space of the old empire. The MUKANIAN period begins in the Pelasian peninsula when the adopt many ideas from nearby Knoas. TYMRIA takes control of many nearby desert oases, expanding greatly. People on SCYLL also learn much from Knoas and Tymria, opening trade up in the central Thalmedic.
1375 AF: Kadimar conquers Nidunu and it's lands.
1383 AF: Akwar becomes tributary to Kadimar after the later successfully invades the former.
1391 AF: A large earthquake hits southern Albalon in the Thalmedic sea, creating tsunamis that hit Knoas and the coast of Tymria.
c.1400 AF: Iron tools see ther use for the first time in Avarda.
c.1420 AF: Permanent settlements are created for the first time in Natecuya.
1421 AF: Sericans repulse another tribal invasion.
c.1428 AF: Sutarba conquers Edad, leaving Miscaya mostly divided between Sutarba and Kadimar.
c.1430 Katalic and Uhaakin settlers begin occupying lands in the Tymrian river delta, with the Kings powerless to do anything about it.
c.1430 AF: Kadimar is the world's biggest city, with over 60,000 people.
1434 AF: Katalic tribes invade and pillage the cities of Marun and Akwar
1445 AF: The Běiměng people conquer the Chūn Dynasty and begin to expand the nation. They create the Lǎotóng (Old Bronze) dynasty and take control of most of central Serica.
1450 AF: Droughts occur yet again in Serica, plaguing the new Lǎotóng dynasty at first.
c.1450 AF: The city of Shawilu rises on the southern end of the Straits of Nysa.
1453 AF: Sutarba's small empire collapses after a Kadimaran invasion. They retain control of their city, however.
1466 AF: Edadian lands except for Edad itself are occupied by Kadimar, who has established itself into an empire at this point.
1470 AF: Edad itself falls after a great seige, Kadimar now controls all of Miscaya except for Sutarba.
1478 AF: Sutarba is defeated by the Kadimaran Empire, who reach their high mark after this victory.
c.1470 AF: People from the north known as the Vardic people invade the Rasan civilization, destroying city after city. social order breaks down in Rasan.
c. 1480 AF: The Hannarans, people possibly related to the Rasan's invaders or the Nasenites, cross the sea of Katal and settle in the land north of Edad and east of Urubar. They found the city Hannar, where their name comes from. They begin attacking the Kadimarans, who themselves are now plagued with rebellious cities.
c.1480 AF Several large rebellions erupt in the Kadimaran empire.
1481 AF: The ruling Emperor of Lǎotóng is banished by his court for his cruelty. The current prime minister rules as king in his place for four years.
1494 AF: The Kadimaran empire weakens greatly when Sutarba and Hannaran Kingdom (ruling the lands of the Edadians) break free.
c.1500 AF Tymria lower, northern half becomes slowly occupied by coastal tribes as government rule is greatly weakened. Tymria loses control of the desert oases as well.
c.1500 AF: Huge volcanic eruption in Pelasia, recorded by the Knoasic civilization.
1510 AF: Widespread drought in Serica. The capital is moved back to Chángchūn.
1511 AF: Urubar conquers the Kingdom of Hannara
c.1520 AF: Rasan completely collapses from migrations and invasion, with all of their cities becoming abandoned within a decade. The Rasan people themselves are assumed to have migrated to somewhere in southern Avarda, or intermixed with the invaders. At the same time, the Bronze age begins in Serica.
c.1550 AF: More city-states are created in upper Miscaya east of Sutarba, as the population expands ever higher. The old east and west are controlled by Sutarba and Kadimar respectively.
c.1570 AF: Tymria is invaded by Uhaakin and Katalic peoples, dividing the nation in two. Katalians control Lower Tymria, while natives keep the Upper part.
1570 AF
KADIMAR becomes the dominant city in lower Miscaya, opposed by Sutarba and the restored Urubaran Kingdom. In Ahura, NASEN reaches Lake Nysa. TYMRIA is broken in two by invasions from the east, and NURIANS flourish on the island of Nura. The LǍOTÓNG establish a dynasty in the west that conquers most of the Central Serican Plain, the largest empire in the world at the time. Rasan completely collapses from invasion and disorder.
1225 AF: Kyngir completely conquers the Miscayan Valley and southern Esirta, expanding their great empire. Tymria also expands at this time. The city of Sutarba is one of the last to fall, only falling this year.
1231 AF: A revolt in the Neo-Kyngiran Empire sees Akwar defeated by Surun, which becomes capital of the empire and takes the Kingship there.
c.1230 AF: Tymrian Kings lose a majority of their power, and decentralization occurs.
1238 AF: An eclipse is recorded in Serica this year. Used by later astronomers to help historians date Chūn-era events.
c.1250 AF: Wooly Mammoths are critically endangered in northern Sibirica.
1271 AF: The Emperor of Chūn is assassinated by a warlord from a nearby tribe. The warlord becomes emperor while the original heir flees.
1284 AF: Kyngir's empire collapses when invaders from Esirta attack and Surun's dynasty is wiped out along wth the city itself. Sutarba, Nidunu, Akwar and Nagshe break free and Esirta reconquers it's lost lands.
1288 AF: Akwar is defeated and burned down by invading Edadians.
1298 AF: A large flood occurs on the Yùjiāng (Jade River) in Serica. The Chūn Dynasty is crippled by this, but in ther later decades afterwards experiences a resurgence in prosperity.
c.1300 AF: Rasan society begins to weaken and decline. Migrations force people from the north to settle on the border of the Rasan.
1300 AF: Ancestors of the Achtomec people of southwest Talamor begin making beverages from cacao.
1305-1315 AF: Tyrmia and Kaerm go to war for about a decade.
1306 AF: The original heir to the Chūn dynasty return to reclaim his throne but fails and is killed. The Warlord Emperor (no name yet) intermarries with his family to cement his claim.
1318 AF: The Nasenite people found the city of Sytha in the northwestern part of their lands in southern Lotan, it becomes their capital.
c.1320 AF: Most Rasan port cities, like Ehulim and Kutarim, are abandoned.
c.1320 AF: The Gandao Kingdom creates its first calendar, based off Ersa's lunar cycle.
1328 AF: The city of Kadimar is founded, near the old ruins of Nissar.
1330 AF: The capital is Serica is moved to Yuánjīng this year from Chángchūn.
1335 AF: Chūn armies reach the West Serican Sea this year while subduing nearby tribes.
c.1340-1350 AF: A great famine in Uhaakin causes people to settle the northern coastlines near Tymria.
c.1350 AF: Ancestor veneration becomes the dominant religious practice in Chūn Serica. Their soldiers begin using armor around this time as well.
c.1350 AF: Iron tools are introduced. This marks the ending of the Bronz Age and the beginning of the Iron Age.
c. 1350 AF: The Nasenite people settle to the north of Neathuq, civilizing like their southern neighbors.
1352 AF: Barbarians besiege Yuánjīng this year but are defeated thoroughly.
1365 AF: Tymria goes to war with Kaerm, invading three times in the next 5 years.
1370 AF: The city of Kaerm itself falls to Tymria, forcing the Kaerm people to move their capital south to Wedeb.
1370 AF
The NASENITE culture develops north of Neathuq, expanding the civilized world north and west. RASAN breaks up and shrinks as their society begins to destabilize. KYNGIR has completely collapsed, with many independent Katalic and Miscayan city-states, predominantly SUTARBA, filling the space of the old empire. The MUKANIAN period begins in the Pelasian peninsula when the adopt many ideas from nearby Knoas. TYMRIA takes control of many nearby desert oases, expanding greatly. People on SCYLL also learn much from Knoas and Tymria, opening trade up in the central Thalmedic.
1375 AF: Kadimar conquers Nidunu and it's lands.
1383 AF: Akwar becomes tributary to Kadimar after the later successfully invades the former.
1391 AF: A large earthquake hits southern Albalon in the Thalmedic sea, creating tsunamis that hit Knoas and the coast of Tymria.
c.1400 AF: Iron tools see ther use for the first time in Avarda.
c.1420 AF: Permanent settlements are created for the first time in Natecuya.
1421 AF: Sericans repulse another tribal invasion.
c.1428 AF: Sutarba conquers Edad, leaving Miscaya mostly divided between Sutarba and Kadimar.
c.1430 Katalic and Uhaakin settlers begin occupying lands in the Tymrian river delta, with the Kings powerless to do anything about it.
c.1430 AF: Kadimar is the world's biggest city, with over 60,000 people.
1434 AF: Katalic tribes invade and pillage the cities of Marun and Akwar
1445 AF: The Běiměng people conquer the Chūn Dynasty and begin to expand the nation. They create the Lǎotóng (Old Bronze) dynasty and take control of most of central Serica.
1450 AF: Droughts occur yet again in Serica, plaguing the new Lǎotóng dynasty at first.
c.1450 AF: The city of Shawilu rises on the southern end of the Straits of Nysa.
1453 AF: Sutarba's small empire collapses after a Kadimaran invasion. They retain control of their city, however.
1466 AF: Edadian lands except for Edad itself are occupied by Kadimar, who has established itself into an empire at this point.
1470 AF: Edad itself falls after a great seige, Kadimar now controls all of Miscaya except for Sutarba.
1478 AF: Sutarba is defeated by the Kadimaran Empire, who reach their high mark after this victory.
c.1470 AF: People from the north known as the Vardic people invade the Rasan civilization, destroying city after city. social order breaks down in Rasan.
c. 1480 AF: The Hannarans, people possibly related to the Rasan's invaders or the Nasenites, cross the sea of Katal and settle in the land north of Edad and east of Urubar. They found the city Hannar, where their name comes from. They begin attacking the Kadimarans, who themselves are now plagued with rebellious cities.
c.1480 AF Several large rebellions erupt in the Kadimaran empire.
1481 AF: The ruling Emperor of Lǎotóng is banished by his court for his cruelty. The current prime minister rules as king in his place for four years.
1494 AF: The Kadimaran empire weakens greatly when Sutarba and Hannaran Kingdom (ruling the lands of the Edadians) break free.
c.1500 AF Tymria lower, northern half becomes slowly occupied by coastal tribes as government rule is greatly weakened. Tymria loses control of the desert oases as well.
c.1500 AF: Huge volcanic eruption in Pelasia, recorded by the Knoasic civilization.
1510 AF: Widespread drought in Serica. The capital is moved back to Chángchūn.
1511 AF: Urubar conquers the Kingdom of Hannara
c.1520 AF: Rasan completely collapses from migrations and invasion, with all of their cities becoming abandoned within a decade. The Rasan people themselves are assumed to have migrated to somewhere in southern Avarda, or intermixed with the invaders. At the same time, the Bronze age begins in Serica.
c.1550 AF: More city-states are created in upper Miscaya east of Sutarba, as the population expands ever higher. The old east and west are controlled by Sutarba and Kadimar respectively.
c.1570 AF: Tymria is invaded by Uhaakin and Katalic peoples, dividing the nation in two. Katalians control Lower Tymria, while natives keep the Upper part.
1570 AF
KADIMAR becomes the dominant city in lower Miscaya, opposed by Sutarba and the restored Urubaran Kingdom. In Ahura, NASEN reaches Lake Nysa. TYMRIA is broken in two by invasions from the east, and NURIANS flourish on the island of Nura. The LǍOTÓNG establish a dynasty in the west that conquers most of the Central Serican Plain, the largest empire in the world at the time. Rasan completely collapses from invasion and disorder.
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Update tomorrow or the day after. It'll be years 1580 to 2020 AF, if anyone has questions in the meantime feel free to ask.
Apologies if this is a dumb question, but do you have a large-scale map of any style that isn't covered in names, for personal use (if that's alright by you)?
