Tech WI: Naval tech without the contributions of Charles Bowers Momsen

In case you've never heard of him, Charles "Swede" Momsen was a US Navy officer and early pioneer in submarine safety precautions, underwater salvage operations and underwater vehicle tech.

Among other things, in the late 1930s, Momsen constructed :
- a simple rebreather device to help stranded US Navy submarine crews abandon a sinking sub and swin to the surface without having to hold their breaths
- a special crewed diving bell for rescuing crews of stranded US Navy subs (the airlock located in its bottom section had a docking ring that could envelope a submarine hatch and allow the crew to board the diving bell and be evacuated)

Despite this, Momsen's ideas were shunned by the US Navy.

In the summer of 1939, the new US Navy sub USS Squalus had some technical problems off the coast of New Hampshire and lost all electric batteries aboard, sinking to the bottom of the sea. However, it remained airtight and wasn't too deep down, so there was still a sliver of hope of saving the sailors aboard. The problem was the fact that no crew of a sunken sub had ever been rescued up until then. It seemed the crew of 33 would be done for, but under media and public pressure, the Navy decided to give Momsen's already built diving belt a try. And it worked, with the recovery teams eventually bringing all 33 stranded sailors back to the surface alive. It was the first succesful undersea rescue in history and paved the way to Momsen's designs becoming adopted by the navies of the US and at least a dozen other countries and being further improved upon during the naval campaigns of WWII and the early Cold War.

Momsen's son continued his fathers efforts and was one of the pioneers of practical modern minisubs. Among other things, he introduced the world to the now-celebrated Alvin series of minisubs and their upgrades during the 60s and 70s. All in all, our current underwater tech owes a lot to these two inventors.


But... What if fate had been more cruel to father and son than in OTL ?

The POD choices are rather simple :
1.) Momsen's contributions are dismissed even during the OTL disaster and the Navy doesn't allow him to try out a rescue operation via his diving bell. The crew of the USS Squalus die of suffocation and hypothermia. No effective improvements in submarine safety standards or crew-rescuing tech happen during WWII or maybe years to come. Could this be a distinct possibility ? How could it affect the War in the Pacific and elsewhere ?
2.) Momsen is given the go-ahead, but on the fourth and last dive, a technical problem strands the bell with the last batch of the rescued sailors. Notably, this almost happened in OTL. One of the support cables became stuck and had to be cut, but the remaining cable almost snapped. The crew of the bell then improvised and rescued the operation by manipulating the pressure in the bell to make it more buoyant - this allowed the divers and surface crews to pull the bell up to the surface more easily, preventing disaster. But what if the crew hadn't thought of this MacGyver ploy or the cable had snapped and the crew and survivors had all drowned at the bottom of the sea ? Would the Navy dismiss any future rescue attempts with Momsen's device ?


So, any thoughts, guys and gals ?
 
Petike said:
Momsen constructed :
- a simple rebreather device to help stranded US Navy submarine crews abandon a sinking sub and swin to the surface without having to hold their breaths
It turned out to be completely unnecessary for escapes as deep as 200'...& it's been said reliance on the Momsen Lung probably killed more men than it saved.:eek::eek:
Petike said:
- a special crewed diving bell for rescuing crews of stranded US Navy subs
This was actually invented by Commander Al McCann, not Swede Momsen.:eek:
Petike said:
Squalus had some technical problems off the coast of New Hampshire and lost all electric batteries
Actually, she didn't. Her main induction failed to close & her afterparts flooded.:eek: (This was a problem that had afflicted two other Portsmouth-design boats before the Squalus incident, Sturgeon & Snapper; it was a design flaw in the main induction valve's closure mechanism.)
Petike said:
the crew of 33
She had 58 souls aboard at the time of the incident...& 26 drowned.
Petike said:
The POD choices are rather simple :
1.) Momsen's contributions are dismissed even during the OTL disaster and the Navy doesn't allow him to try out a rescue operation via his diving bell. The crew of the USS Squalus die of suffocation and hypothermia. No effective improvements in submarine safety standards or crew-rescuing tech happen during WWII or maybe years to come. Could this be a distinct possibility ? How could it affect the War in the Pacific and elsewhere ?
For the war, it would make no difference; there were no rescues attempted (nor is it likely they would be able to be:rolleyes:). AFAIK, there's only one case, the S-51 (?) collision, where it might have been attempted.

Moreover, it's not like submariners hadn't thought of this. As already noted, Al McCann had invented the rescue chamber. Diving bells weren't a new idea, either: the bathysphere was already available, & it was able to dive deeper than the McCann chamber. Plus, with nuke boats, & the risk of getting trapped under ice, developing rescue would have been sensible, if less critical, with the vastly improved udw endurance... (Ned Beach proposed an udw towing system. Doubtless other submariners had ideas, too. They're a creative bunch.:cool:)

Add to that the desire for covert ops, it's likely something like the DSRV develops anyhow.
Petike said:
Momsen is given the go-ahead, but on the fourth and last dive, a technical problem strands the bell with the last batch of the rescued sailors. Notably, this almost happened in OTL. One of the support cables became stuck and had to be cut, but the remaining cable almost snapped. The crew of the bell then improvised and rescued the operation by manipulating the pressure in the bell to make it more buoyant - this allowed the divers and surface crews to pull the bell up to the surface more easily, preventing disaster. But what if the crew hadn't thought of this MacGyver ploy or the cable had snapped and the crew and survivors had all drowned at the bottom of the sea ? Would the Navy dismiss any future rescue attempts with Momsen's device ?
Doubtful. Cable jams were pretty usual for winches.

Fact is, tho, the McCann chamber was a dead end... Something like the bathyscaphe or DSRV was more versatile, & could be deployed from carrier subs, rather than from surface ships.
 
It turned out to be completely unnecessary for escapes as deep as 200'...& it's been said reliance on the Momsen Lung probably killed more men than it saved.:eek::eek:

Well, from that depth... I'm not surprised.

This was actually invented by Commander Al McCann, not Swede Momsen.:eek:

Are you sure ? AFAIK McCann improved Momsen's design.
 
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Petike said:
Well, from that depth... I'm not surprised.
Brits tested it postwar, & found a free ascent was more effective & simpler. (IIRC, they tested as deep as 300', but I wouldn't want to swear to it.)
Petike said:
Are you sure ? AFAIK McCann improved Momsen's design.
I'm taking the word of former submariner Clay Blair. WP credits Momsen with improving Al McCann's design, & Blair calls it the McCann Rescue Chamber.
 
PoD 1: Someone eventually decides to back Momsen's diving bell as a way of safely recovering bodies, and it works, showing up the navy, who, despite wanting to ignore it, are eventually forced to reconsider.

PoD 2: Little difference, if it was the first dive it may have been different, but after perhaps the second the idea was proven.
 
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