Taiwan stays Japanese Post-War

I'm not sure how this would happen with what PODs, since I'm not sure how the ROC WOULD give up it's claim, but I think it would be FAR better than the shithole that was the KMT, with it's corruption, stripping Taiwan of virtually ALL industry, and THEN mistreating the locals
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might be doing a TL on this, so need feedback on how a POD that allows what is said on the tin to happen.
 
I'm not sure how this would happen with what PODs, since I'm not sure how the ROC WOULD give up it's claim, but I think it would be FAR better than the shithole that was the KMT, with it's corruption, stripping Taiwan of virtually ALL industry, and THEN mistreating the locals
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might be doing a TL on this, so need feedback on how a POD that allows what is said on the tin to happen.

Because colonial foreign power is better? The PRC would be better then.
 
Because colonial foreign power is better? The PRC would be better then.

If you had heard stories from Grandparents about the ABSOLUTELY SHITTY RULE of the KMT, you, sir, might beg to differ.;)

Corruption galore, stripping TAIWANESE industry down to the bone, then scurrying back here like rats to their nest. THEN the White Terror.

As far as I am concerned, the KMT are worse than garbage:mad:
 
The Ubbergeek, You have to remember that the Japanese ran Taiwan as a model colony entirely unlike their behaviour on the mainland or in Korea or, well, almost anywhere else.

Of the three options at the time (KMT, PRC, Japan) Japan was easily the best choice. Obviously there's no way to know if the Japanese would continue in their ways but the KMT did slash and burn and evidenced by what the ChiComs did on the mainland that was just as bad.

Of course an American occupation leading to a free Taiwan would have been perhaps the best option, but that seems unlikely given their strong support of the KMT (which also makes Japan hanging onto Taiwan unlikely).
 
If you had heard stories from Grandparents about the ABSOLUTELY SHITTY RULE of the KMT, you, sir, might beg to differ.;)

Corruption galore, stripping TAIWANESE industry down to the bone, then scurrying back here like rats to their nest. THEN the White Terror.

As far as I am concerned, the KMT are worse than garbage:mad:
Chiang Kai-shek was bullshit, but once the Communists occupied the Chinese mainland, things began to change gradually. After "February 28th", a lot of leading intellectuals in the Japanese colonial era were killed, and a generation of elites was killed off by the KMT; the crime was arguably 10 times more terrible than Tiananmen.

However, to be fair, I would say, Kwoh-ting Li of the KMT should also be viewed positively regarding Taiwan's economic miracle. And ironically, it was Chiang Ching-kuo who began the process of localization. The White Terror should never be forgiven, but we should not be that objective to say that the Taiwanese have nothing to gain from KMT leaders, especially after the 1960s. While I despise Chinese Communists, I would never say they are "worse than garbage" or has no contribution to the Chinese people. Deng Xiaoping was a decent leader that saved China from the Cultural Revolution, though I have strong reservations about one-party rule and the lack of civil liberties.

You could criticize Chiang Kai-shek and his family, or early leaders responsible for February 28th or the destruction of industry, say Chen Yi. You could blame Chiang Ching-kuo for the death of Henry Liu and the Kaohsiung Incident. I can understand your hatred towards the KMT, but let's be objective. I have a friend in Nantou, a fairly pan-blue area, who have relatives killed after 2.28.

He's fairly pan-green due to such a background, but he told me that Koo Kwang-ming's "revenge plan" to ban the KMT through a new martial law was "disturbing and unhealthy to Taiwan's young democracy". It's really lucky that Tsai becomes the DPP leader instead of Koo:p He is not just unelectable, but with absolutely no respect for democracy and the importance of reconciliation. Let us not be another Viktor Orbán or Koo Kwang-ming.
 
I'm not sure how this would happen with what PODs, since I'm not sure how the ROC WOULD give up it's claim, but I think it would be FAR better than the shithole that was the KMT, with it's corruption, stripping Taiwan of virtually ALL industry, and THEN mistreating the locals
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

might be doing a TL on this, so need feedback on how a POD that allows what is said on the tin to happen.

Have the ROC collapse and factionalize at some point during the war, preferably before the 1943 Cairo Conference (which was where Chiang made the US agree to demand Taiwan's removal, before Cairo Taiwan was recognized as part of Japan by the west). This means that the US continues to treat Taiwan as part of Japan-in the same year, Japan began the final stages of making Taiwan part of the homeland, instead of a colony.

This also has the benefit of decreasing racism and xenophobia in modern Japan.

Furthermore, greater chaos in China will force the Soviets to focus there, and maybe save Korea, Karafuto, and the Kuriles from the Soviet menace.
 
Because colonial foreign power is better? The PRC would be better then.

Taiwan was treated very well by Japan (indeed I'd argue it was treated better than ANY of the West colonies ever were) since it was intended to be a 'model colony'.

Also, native power is not somehow better than foreign power.
 
Taiwan was treated very well by Japan (indeed I'd argue it was treated better than ANY of the West colonies ever were) since it was intended to be a 'model colony'.

Also, native power is not somehow better than foreign power.

More democratic in a very large way, or at least you can say there is no foreign influences.

Colonialism is never good - at the end, it's not for the peoples, the natives, but the colonial power. Taiwan may have been screwed one day.
 
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