Taiping Rebellion in China was lead by a Christian Sect and seeked conversion across China. What would change in Chinese history had it been successful?
have a link to that story?Seeing as the Meiji Restoration happened around three years after the last major battle in the rebellion (Battle of Nanking), Japan isn't in a good position to grab territory from China. Furthermore, both Britain and France provided aid to the Qin, including troops, commanders, and training.
Even when the Taiping had a 5:1 numerical advantage, they lost to the Qing.
But possibly, if another European great power gets involved (as will happen in my AAR) on Hong's side, it could go better for the Heavenly Kingdom. I don't think there really is a realistic chance for the Taiping to conquer all of China. Possibly by allying with the Nien rebels, and without Mongol involvement on the Qing side, Taiping could have conquered souther China while Zhang Lexing topples the Qing and begins his own dynasty in the north. Russia would almost certainly seize the chance to annex the Amur region, Manchuria, maybe Mongolia.
China's history would be massively altered, the rebellion cost millions of lives and probably more would die. Southern China would probably collapse as Hong destroyed the Confucianism and related institutions there, attempting to force his heretical Christianity on the people. Hong and his successors probably wouldn't have any allies, and rule a much poorer southern China.
I don't follow you.have a link to that story?![]()
Even when the Qing were outnumbered 5-1, they still won?
If the Taiping Rebellion succeeds, from what I've read, China is majorly fucked.
Could someone describe just *why* China would be screwed up?
Not disagreeing, just curious. It seems the dominant consensus is "f***ed" but nobody said why.
Because the guy is like a theocratic Chinese insaner Hitler. Giggling Oriental Tyrant Tee Emm meets Underpants On Head meets Death Camps.
Hong Xiuquan was in many ways Mao Zedong 1.0--a charismatic, power-hungry subversive who came across a proselyte Western ideology, cooked up his own version and proceeded to shoehorn Chinese society into it at tremendous human cost. In fact, I think that China under Mao gives a good idea of what the victorious Taipings would have been like. On the plus side, I think that they would have undergone the same evolution as the Communists in OTL, and after Hong's death, gradually reverted to the default style of governance in China, namely authoritarian bureaucracy; Christian trappings would have replaced Confucian ones but it would have made little difference for the people themselves.Could someone describe just *why* China would be screwed up?
There's a movie by Yu Lik-wai, "All Tomorrow's Parties", which depicts an alternate China ruled by a totalitarian religious cult, obviously a reference to the Taipings (with some Falun Dafa thrown in for contemporary flavor). Halfway through the movie, the regime collapses, and the people just wander off and try to remake their lives in a bleak post-apocalyptic setting of abandoned factories and decaying tenements. Very depressing stuff.Land reform combined with complete celibacy and worship of the Divine Leader.
Yu Lik-wai's movies tend to be downers, and this one more so than the others. It's not just the dystopian premise, but the whole artistic approach: the images have had nearly all the colors bled out of them (somewhat like Kieslowski's early works), and the shooting was apparently done in China's northern rust belt.Is that so? I don't watch much Chinese film, but it sounds kind of interesting?
link to the AAR you mentioned.I don't follow you..
link to the AAR you mentioned.