Tagliacozzo a Timeline

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by kasumigenx, Dec 3, 2018.

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  1. Threadmarks: Conradin’s victory

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    Tagliacozzo

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    After considerable maneuver, Conradin's invading army confronted that of Charles of Anjou in the Palentine Plains plateau, outside the town of Tagliacozzo (more precisely, near Scurcola Marsicana). Each army deployed in three divisions. The first Hohenstaufen division was composed of Spanish and Italian knights, led by the Infante Henry of Castile; the second division was largely Italian but included a body of German knights, and was led by Galvano Lancia; the final division contained most of the German knights, and was led by Conradin himself, accompanied by his close friend, the youthful Frederick I, Markgraf von Baden. Charles's first division was composed of Italians, with some Provençal knights, under an unknown commander; the second division contained French knights under Henry of Cousances, and the final division, which Charles led along with the veteran crusader, Erard of Valery (who was referred to by the Italians as "Allardo di Valleri", was composed of French veteran knights—this final division was hidden by Charles at Valery's advice, in order to constitute a tactical surprise against the Hohenstaufen forces.
    Conradin's forces won the initial phase of the battle, and broke up to pursue Charles's first two divisions, which were in flight, and pillage the Angevin camp. At this point Charles sprung his trap, his hidden reserve forces entering the fight and massacring Conradin's scattered forces. Conradin was forced to flee back to Rome, but was later captured, imprisoned, and executed. Thus ended the rule of the Hohenstaufens.

    Conradin’s victory
    Conradin’s forces lost the initial phase of the battle and retained a sizable army who can still fight against the Angevins and pretended to retreat, when the Angevins were already celebrating their victory, Conradin’s forces would fight against the Angevins and kill Charles of Provence in action and expelled him from Sicily, instead of deciding to execute him.
    Conradin on 1268, basking in his victory would secure an alliance with the Hungarians and married Mary of Hungary which would establish an alliance between Conradin and the Hungarians would give birth to a son named Frederick on December 2, 1271.
     
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  2. Threadmarks: Post Victory

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    Post Victory

    Mary of Hungary, the wife of Conradin would give birth to two following children namely, Beatrice b. 1273 and Conrad b. 1280.

    Ottokar II Premysl would be chosen as the Holy Roman Emperor by pope Innocent IV since he would not support Conradin and Conradin would be forced to divide his own realms for another generation, on 1280’s Ottokar II Premysl would marry his two daughters, Kunigunde to Louis of France and Agnes to Premyszl II of Greater Poland, the dowry of Kunigunde of Bohemia would include the Kingdom of Arles, causing France to integrate Kingdom of Arles, while Margaret of France would marry Charles II of Anjou and Provence who would give birth to the scions of the House of Capet-Anjou.


    Conradin would focus on Swabia and Sicily for the meantime and decided to divide his realms between his two sons, Frederick and Conrad, Frederick would get Sicily and Conrad would get Swabia.

    Ottokar II Premysl would keep a peaceful era when he was the Emperor of the Holy Roman Emperor, although his son Wenzel or Wenceslaus would change things.
     
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  3. Threadmarks: Eleanor of England

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    Eleanor of England

    Eleanor of England (18 June 1269 – 29 August 1298) was an English princess, the eldest surviving daughter of King Edward I of England and his first wife, Queen Eleanor of Castile.

    What evidence exists for Eleanor's early years suggests that while her parents were absent on Crusade between 1270 and 1274, she became very close to her paternal grandmother, Eleanor of Provence, with whom she continued to spend a good deal of time. She was also close to her sickly brother Henry. On one Pentecost Eve, Henry and Eleanor were given two partridges for their dinner, for a special treat.

    For a long period Eleanor was betrothed to King Alfonso III of Aragon. Alfonso's parents were under papal interdict, Eleanor herself would go to Aragon on 1286 and marry Alfonso III and gave birth to two children, namely Peter of Aragon b. 1287 and Blanche of Aragon b. 1290, the death of Alfonso III in 1291 would force Eleanor of England to be the regent of Aragon til her death in 1298.
     
  4. Threadmarks: Conradin’s alliances

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    Conradin’s alliances

    Conradin or Conrad I of Sicily would conquer restore the order in the Kingdom of Sicily, the two daughters of Manfred would be sent to marry his two daughters to be used in alliance and peace, Beatrix and Flordelis of Sicily are married off, Flordelis is married off to Wenceslaus of Bohemia in order for Conradin to retain Swabia and in order to please the Pope while for Beatrix, she is married off to Manfred IV, son of Thomas I, Marquess of Saluzzo, while he would force the sons of Manfred to the Church for them not to claim the Kingdom of Sicily.

    Conradin would be planting seeds for his own son in the Holy Roman Empire and choosing Conrad to rule Swabia would be the best choice, while his own daughter, Beatrice would be married off to James of Aragon, the cousin of Conradin, this would encourage an alliance between the Hohenstauffens and the House of Barcelona and reconciling with his cousin, Constance of Sicily, while Yolande of Aragon would be married to Frederick of Sicily, this would be beneficial in the long term since his focus would be ruling in Sicily, due to his fairness.

    In this point in time Clementia of Habsburg would marry Frederick, Margrave of Baden.
     
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  5. Threadmarks: A Song for Song

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    A Song for Song

    On 1277, Kublai Khan would meet an accident falling in a horse causing the Mongols to retreat from the Song Empire.

    This was said to be a lucky event for the Song Dynasty in general, since the Song Empire would have a chance to improve their military against the mongols, now under the regents of Emperor Zhao Shi and they would be able to repel the mongols for a decade until the mongols would start to decline.

    The fact that the Mongols were not able to conquer that means the Song Empire would recover even if it would take time for the recovery to happen, at least the collapse of the mongols would have created a space for Song to recover from Jin and Yuan aggression.

    Samudera Pasai, also known as Samudera or Pasai or Samudera Darussalam or Pacem, was a Muslim harbour kingdom on the north coast of Sumatra from the 13th to the 16th centuries CE. The kingdom was believed to have been founded by Merah Silu, who later converted to Islam and adopted the name Malik ul Salih , in the year 1267 CE.

    Islam would reach the islands in the other side of Hainan and Annam particularly, Selurong and the lands of the Pisheya, it is due to the ties of the Pisheya and Selurong to Sumatran states of Medan and Pasai since the 9th Century.
     
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  6. Threadmarks: Przemysl II and Agnes of Bohemia

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    Przemysl II and Agnes of Bohemia

    In 1285 Przemysł II decided to marry again. The chosen bride was Agnes, daughter of the Holy Roman Emperor, Ottokar Premsyl, the negotiations were probably concluded through the mediation of Jakub Świnka. The marriage by proxy took place in the Polish city of Gniezno on 11 October 1285; in the ceremony, the Duke of Greater Poland was represented by the notary Tylon, who received from Przemysł II the village of Giecz in gratitude for his services. It's unknown when and where the formal wedding between Przemysł II and Agnes took place, or who administered the sacrament of marriage: it could be either Bishop Jan of Poznań or Jakub Świnka, Archbishop of Gniezno.

    Agnes of Bohemia would provide Przemysł of one daughter children, Agnes of Poland b. 1286, Boleslaw b. 1289 and Przemyslaw b. 1293.

    Her husband would give up Lesser Poland to Wenceslaus II of Bohemia on his reign as the King of Poland, on the death of Przemysl II on 1295, although his daughter, Agnes is betrothed to Conrad, the son of Conradin, Agnes of Bohemia would flee with her daughter, Agnes to the court of Conradin in Swabia who would marry Agnes of Greater Poland to Conrad of Swabia.
     
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  7. kasumigenx Well-Known Member

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    I updated parts of the timeline and added some more details to some chapters.

    @Petike @Fehérvári

    We have most likely Hohenstauffen Hungary here..
     
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