Surviving Timurid State?

Another thing that I need to ask: would this hypothetical Timurid state have to expand into the Arabian Peninsula at some point? Would the Timurid Dynasty be the dominant dynasty in Persia instead of the Safavids?

Well, a lasting Timurid dynasty in Iran probably butterflies the Safavids in any case...not sure why they would have to expand into the Arabian peninsula, although if they hold Iran there's certainly a strong incentive to push into Iraq. One wonders how they would get along with the Ottomans?

Bruce
 
Well, a lasting Timurid dynasty in Iran probably butterflies the Safavids in any case...not sure why they would have to expand into the Arabian peninsula, although if they hold Iran there's certainly a strong incentive to push into Iraq. One wonders how they would get along with the Ottomans?

Bruce

Pretty bad, considering that Timur's army literally kicked the crap out of Bayezid's forces in Ankara. The Timurids can say that they're following true Islam and that they'll be the ones to safeguard the holy cities. Another thing: would India be conquered by the Timurids? I can imagine the Timurids arranging marriages with the Indian states, making the conquest of India bloodless. Another reason why the Timurids should expand into the Arabian Peninsula: to safeguard the Strait of Hormuz for trade.
 
The collapse of the Timurids wasn't an immediate thing upon his death. His son Shah Rukh, after reconquering some bits lost in the aftermath of his fathers death, held onto eastern Iran, central Asia and much of Afghanistan from 1410-1447 and apparently governed well.

Bruce

Well yeah but the empire still was radically reduced in size and strength.
 
Pretty bad, considering that Timur's army literally kicked the crap out of Bayezid's forces in Ankara. The Timurids can say that they're following true Islam and that they'll be the ones to safeguard the holy cities.

They're both Sunnis, though...I suppose there would be something of a righteousness competition... :D

Bruce
 
One way to put it is that the Timurid state would still be able to control the Silk Road.

Yeah, but only until the Europeans get to Asia by sailing around Africa. There will probably be more trade by way of central Asia than OTL, (more stablity, fewer middlemen to jack up prices) but they will be losing the European market and will be competing with Europeans for the Middle Eastern one.

Bruce
 
Sibirskaya;5701680. Another thing: would India be conquered by the Timurids? I can imagine the Timurids arranging marriages with the Indian states said:
They'll definitely make a move for North india. India is far richer than their domains and would be an attractive target.

Conquering the whole of India is another matter. India is huge and even the Mughals never quite managed it
 
They'll definitely make a move for North india. India is far richer than their domains and would be an attractive target.

Conquering the whole of India is another matter. India is huge and even the Mughals never quite managed it

Yeah, but Aurangzeb managed to expand the Mughal Empire beyond its limits.
 
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