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Didn't you say Madagascar has an inhospitable climate? My claim was that Madagascar could have rural settlement similar to South Africa. The weather in Antananarivo is similar to Cape Town, South Africa. Therefore, the objective of this thread could be fulfilled in Madagascar. Note, the population of Antananarivo is equal to the population of Auckland, New Zealand.
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Therefore, Madagascar could be a secondary colony to Portugal in the 16th century, much like New Zealand was to Great Britain in the 19th century.


Sources:
1. http://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/auckland-population/
2. http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/madagascar-population/cities/
 
Didn't you say Madagascar has an inhospitable climate? My claim was that Madagascar could have rural settlement similar to South Africa. The weather in Antananarivo is similar to Cape Town, South Africa. Therefore, the objective of this thread could be fulfilled in Madagascar. Note, the population of Antananarivo is equal to the population of Auckland, New Zealand.
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Therefore, Madagascar could be a secondary colony to Portugal in the 16th century, much like New Zealand was to Great Britain in the 19th century.


Sources:
1. http://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/auckland-population/
2. http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/madagascar-population/cities/

No, I did not.
 
How about Sikhs crowding into what would be the Wakhan Corridor following the conquest of their empire, and rather than Afghanistan being expanded Russia and the UK decided to prop them up as a buffer state?
 
How about Sikhs crowding into what would be the Wakhan Corridor following the conquest of their empire, and rather than Afghanistan being expanded Russia and the UK decided to prop them up as a buffer state?

Yeah, why not, they could also try to settle even further North, before Russians take Central Asia, but I like the idea


What about French nobility leaving for Patagonia or Bougainville's discoveries in Polynesia during the Revolution ?
 
What about the Hokkien and Hakka Chinese? They have large diasporic communities spread throughout Southeat Asia. The Hakka even established a semi-independent republic in Borneo that existed for over a century.
 

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Irish convicts fleeing into the Australian Outback, perhaps? Though the Outback may be too much of a desert for this.
There are forests in the southwestern portion of Australia, quite a bit south of Perth. Yet, even today it's virtually uninhabited. Somewhere close to Melbourne is another option. The whole eastern half of Australia has the world's largest underground aquifer. So even if the surface is a desert, all the colonists need to is build a well. Food could be a problem though. Particularly, agriculture could be a problem in most of the interior.

It should be noted that Melbourne and Sydney are in southeastern Australia. Today, these are by far the largest cities in Australia. Anywhere hugging the coast from Adelaide to Sydney is fair game. Melbourne, which was the earliest boom city in Australia is smack dab in the middle. Other locations of note are Brisbane and Perth in northeastern and southwestern Australia respectively.
 
What about the Hokkien and Hakka Chinese? They have large diasporic communities spread throughout Southeat Asia. The Hakka even established a semi-independent republic in Borneo that existed for over a century.

Yeah ! I've heard about it, it was called Lanfang or something like that ... do you think they could create a whole state with a little help ?
 
Macedonian Bulgarians going into Albania to escape Serbian rule following the second Balkan War?

A Sudanese migration to Rabih az-Zubayr's empire following the collapse of the Mahdist state?
 
British colonists in North America if England sells it's colonies to France for whatever reason in the 17th century.
 
What do I mean by Boer-like people ? Well, people colonizing a place, with no official state to claim the land that they colonize, it's a very very wide idea, so I count on you to contribute to this subject, don't be shy, there is no stupid question or suggestion, only a stupid thread poster in the person of Myself.

Peranakans in SE Asia, Dungans in Central Asia, Scotch-Irish in the Appalachians...
 
What do I mean by Boer-like people ? Well, people colonizing a place, with no official state to claim the land that they colonize, it's a very very wide idea, so I count on you to contribute to this subject, don't be shy, there is no stupid question or suggestion, only a stupid thread poster in the person of Myself.
Amish in Southern America.
 
Didn't you say Madagascar has an inhospitable climate? My claim was that Madagascar could have rural settlement similar to South Africa. The weather in Antananarivo is similar to Cape Town, South Africa. Therefore, the objective of this thread could be fulfilled in Madagascar. Note, the population of Antananarivo is equal to the population of Auckland, New Zealand.
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Therefore, Madagascar could be a secondary colony to Portugal in the 16th century, much like New Zealand was to Great Britain in the 19th century.


Sources:
1. http://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/auckland-population/
2. http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/madagascar-population/cities/

Yes, and Antananarivo is in the highlands of Madagascar, which were densely populated throughout the past few centuries. Meanwhile, coastal cities like Toamasina or Antsiranana have a tropical climate more akin to Far North Queensland or coastal East Africa. These lowlands were a major barrier for the highland Merina people in their conquests in Madagascar, since being from the highlands, they had lacked resistance to malaria and other diseases.

Such factors would decimate any European attempt at a settler colony before the late 19th century.
 
I was thinking maybe Australian Aboriginals, who all go into one specific place in Australia, and decide to unite into a confederation against the British.
 
I was thinking maybe Australian Aboriginals, who all go into one specific place in Australia, and decide to unite into a confederation against the British.

It was their sacred territories, I don't think it's very likely to have them go in one single place, but the idea could work in Tasmania
 
It was their sacred territories, I don't think it's very likely to have them go in one single place, but the idea could work in Tasmania

Maybe they ally with the Emus, and declare the Oceanic Empire that conquers Russia, Qing China, Madagascar, and India.
 

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Yes, and Antananarivo is in the highlands of Madagascar, which were densely populated throughout the past few centuries. Meanwhile, coastal cities like Toamasina or Antsiranana have a tropical climate more akin to Far North Queensland or coastal East Africa. These lowlands were a major barrier for the highland Merina people in their conquests in Madagascar, since being from the highlands, they had lacked resistance to malaria and other diseases.

Such factors would decimate any European attempt at a settler colony before the late 19th century.
There was malaria in Brazil in the 16th century.
 
I think the most interesting scenario would be a moderately successful French colony where the city of Rio de Janeiro lies today. The Portuguese eventually come in and forces them to flee to the interior. If they make their way north, perhaps we could see some french boers exploring the vast gold mines of Brazil, while resisting Portuguese colonial authority and trying to fend off other colonists.
 

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The Portuguese could also colonize South Africa before the Dutch. This could result in the word "boer" not being part of the English language.
 
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