Stupid Luck and Happenstance, Thread III

This little get together at the Valenzuela family home is something that Kiki would very much enjoy, and also that cements the popularity that Kiki has with the American people.
Other things on the Von Preussun Family Tour agenda should be is Ben going to the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena about the twin Voyager missions (hopefully it will be the Grand Tour missions that was scaled down IOTL) with pledges of cooperation between the universities in Germany and the United States.
Of course Disneyland is a must with Kiki saying that her Castle is better then Sleeping Beauty's.
Kiki being a major investor in Sony, should visit the Sony plants in San Diego and Tijuana to emphasize that free trade promotes peace and prosperity for everyone.
Otherwise the main focus of the tour should be on "Family Friendly" activities that shows that the German Imperial Family doesn't have Devil's Horns and Germany and the United States have more in common then what the conventional wisdom holds it to be.
 
Ben has to keep an eye on things going around him on this SoCal portion of the tour as he is very near to NAS Miramar and NAS North Island, and there may be some Navy pilots that have a long memory of Ben and what he did in The Patagonia War.
If ITTL, NAS Miramar has the TOPGUN school, hard feelings may be put aside and an invitation could be made for Ben to give a lecture on the different tactics that were used by each side.
 
Ben has to keep an eye on things going around him on this SoCal portion of the tour as he is very near to NAS Miramar and NAS North Island, and there may be some Navy pilots that have a long memory of Ben and what he did in The Patagonia War.
Imo that would be an embaressment for the Administration, because as far as I remember the USA was not involved in that conflict. At least not officially.

So if an overenthusiastic pilot happens to... dare a member of the House of Hohenzollern (by mariage) to duel, that is a lot of (ostrich) egg to the face.
 
Thus, the conundrum, there will be some who will want to get their licks in against Ben, and those who want to swap stories with a fellow pilot.
By now Germany must know that the United States through the CIA and the USN supplied pilots using false identification papers to the Chilian Air Force, but it is in their best interests to pretend that it didn't happen.
Of course, the widows of the pilots that died in the conflict are demanding answers but are being given the runaround with a lot of obfuscation and bureaucratic double talk, with plenty of denials being made.
I have speculated that USN pilots that died had their discharge dates changed to show that they were no longer in the military, and that makes their widows and children ineligible for benefits.
If that is the case, then I could see some of the widows and families trying to confront Kiki and Ben at a public appearance in order to bring their plight to the public eyes.
 
Part 145, Chapter 2626
Chapter Two Thousand Six Hundred Twenty-Six



13th July 1977

Fort Irwin, California

Going to Disneyland with Nina had been difficult enough. Massive crowds of people, the heat, the novelty of being at Disneyland wearing very thin for them after a couple hours. And that had been even before things had taken a surreal turn.

Supposedly, the castle that sat in the middle of the Park had been based on Neuschwanstein Castle, Kiki didn’t see the comparison. The rides themselves seemed like they were a case of diminishing returns and it felt as if the Teacup ride had been designed to make people violently ill. Perhaps it may have been better if they had visited during a different time of the year.

Eventually, they had found themselves taking two rides repeatedly, the Haunted Mansion and the Pirates of the Caribbean. For no other reason than the respite that those rides offered from the brutally hot summer day in Anaheim California.

It had been in the Haunted Mansion when the floor drops down in a clever elevator that was a part of the ride that a man had recognized Ben. Ben said that he had no idea what it had been all about, but while everyone else was listening to the recorded voice over the intercom asking if the room was stretching out this man started yelling at Ben. It was incoherent with Kiki unable to understand what this man was going on about. Something about how Ben had no right, and why didn’t people understand what he actually was. Disney’s security hustled the man off before Kiki’s own people acted, which was probably just as well.

Riding home Ben had said that they needed a couple days to rest and get their bearings before tackling the rest of the country. Kiki had already decided that she needed a break from the tour, but sitting around the hotel didn’t have a whole lot of appeal for her. Ritchie’s invitation to Fort Irwin, the U.S. Army conducted it’s Desert Training which he worked out of much of the time had held her interest. The U.S. Army had no objections to her presence, though Kiki wouldn’t figure out why until she got there. Simply put, Fort Irwin was where the U.S. Army sent people if they had really angered someone. Ritchie’s Special Forces Group a part of the California National Guard Division that operated in the Mojave Desert regardless.

What Kiki had noticed as soon as the helicopter that had taken her to Irwin from Los Angeles touched down was unmistakable for anything else. If the U.S. Army had been training to take on her Heer and Marine Infantry in Patagonia, this would be where it would have happened. She had certainly seen enough to the Patagonian Steppe when she had spent weeks walking across it to recognize the similarities to the American South-West. The real difference was that it got much hotter here. It had to be at least forty degrees as Kiki made her way from the helipad to the building that housed the Base Administration. If she had to guess, Ritchie was probably aware of that detail on some level. There were rumors that the American Green Beret had been seen throughout South America acting as advisors for the last several years and Ritchie was one of them.

Thankful for the air conditioning, Kiki followed her escort into what turned out to be a conference room. There were a number of men present. That included Ritchie who did not look particularly happy to be there.

“Welcome to Fort Irwin, General von Preussen” The man with the most stars on his collar said.

“Well… Thank you” Kiki replied, doing her best to be diplomatic. She knew that whoever had set this up had made certain that whoever she dealt with would outrank her.

Kiki recognized him from her briefing by the BND as Lieutenant General Keith L. Ware, his rank equivalent to a General of Infantry. He had come to the world’s attention a few years earlier when he had commanded the California National Guard’s 40th Division when the Los Angeles region had been consumed to a series of crises. He had come up in the world a bit since then, as the Commander of the American Continental Command. That meant that the Continental United States, Canada, and Mexico fell under his jurisdiction. Apparently, the Canadians and Mexicans had a very different opinion on the matter. Ritchie had made a few comments that implied that the 40th Division kept a close eye on what was happening in the Mexican States of Baja California and Sonora. It would of been stupid to assume that the Mexican Army didn’t have their own people keeping an eye on what was happening across the border in California and Arizona, but Kiki knew better than to bring it up.

The other men present were Major General Stuart, the current Commanding Officer of the 40th Division and Colonel Adams, the Base Commander of Fort Irwin. Them, along with their respective staffs, made for a rather crowded room.

“Warrant Officer Valenzuela extended this invitation at my request after that unfortunate incident on Monday” Ware said.

“I figure that was some man bothered by the heat and whatever he might have had to drink” Kiki replied.

“For starters, there is no alcohol allowed at Disneyland” General Ware said, “And there was more to it than that.”

“I also know that not everyone in America particularly likes me or my family” Kiki said, a bit annoyed by this. Threats were a fact of life for someone in her position, it was something she had lived with since she was a child.

“This has to do with your husband, Professor von Hirsh” Colonel Adams said.

“As I am sure you are aware, he serves your country in the capacity of a Reserve Officer in the Luftwaffe” General Ware said, “When his commission was active he flew fighter missions against the Chinese and Chilean Air forces.”

“What does that have to do with anything?” Kiki asked.

“The pilots in those planes he shot down were not necessarily Chinese or Chilean” Ware replied and Kiki had a sinking feeling that this might have something to do with the sort of political nonsense that complicated everything.
 
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Kiki and her family didn’t need to stand in line as Disneyland has a very efficient VIP program that would have whisked her to the front of the line so discreetly that those who have been standing in line for hours would have never noticed.
Of course there would have been a price to pay as Disney would want a lot of pictures of Kiki and her family enjoying themselves, and most of all pictures of Disney Princesses meeting a real Princess.
But this is Kiki we are talking about, and she would have made a point to wait in line just like everyone else does.
 
Don’t see that some guy doing what is essentially state-sponsored merc work has any right to complain that he or his wingmen got shot down by someone who was flying openly under his own country’s colours :p
 
Don’t see that some guy doing what is essentially state-sponsored merc work has any right to complain that he or his wingmen got shot down by someone who was flying openly under his own country’s colours :p
It is even "worse" then that. As with
“The pilots in those planes he shot down were not necessarily Chinese or Chilian” Ware replied and Kiki had a sinking feeling that this might have something to do with the sort of political nonsense that complicated everything.
the USA has more or less admited to have covertly helped other nations wage war against Germany and allies. And that it had soldiers active in those wars.

The fallout of this could be really dirty. As I do not rightly know how the USA public would react to this... or other nations when they realize that the USA may covertly support their adverseries not only with material but also trained and specialised personal.
 
the USA has more or less admited to have covertly helped other nations wage war against Germany and allies. And that it had soldiers active in those wars.

The fallout of this could be really dirty. As I do not rightly know how the USA public would react to this... or other nations when they realize that the USA may covertly support their adverseries not only with material but also trained and specialised personal.
Trained specialist personnel training and/or observing those adversaries using that material is one thing. Everyone expects that to happen. Actively fighting for those adversaries while pretending that you aren't is something else.
Ritchie is pissed because he has been in that training/observing role, its where he met Kiki for the first time after all, and putting US "volunteers" into harms way to fight a proxy war has led to families being denied veterans pensions, and fed a pack of lies regarding the deaths of loved ones. He also knows that Ben probably had no idea of the true loyalties of some of his adversaries in the skies over Korea, China, Chile, & Argentina.
The US military is pissed because the CIA has gotten some of its people killed in said proxy wars and potentially left THEM holding the bag when the excrement finally hits the rotary air impeller. Hence their meeting with Kiki and their kinda-sorta-this-never-happened-half-arsed "apology" regarding the Disneyland incident.
Kiki is pissed because her family now has another threat to worry about because of 'politics'.
 
the USA has more or less admited to have covertly helped other nations wage war against Germany and allies. And that it had soldiers active in those wars.

The fallout of this could be really dirty. As I do not rightly know how the USA public would react to this... or other nations when they realize that the USA may covertly support their adverseries not only with material but also trained and specialised personal.
I mean, this is something the high ranks of Germany already knew, in all likelihood. And it's not like it was a public admittance of guilt, just an off-the-record conversation that's easily denied if it comes to it.
 
I mean, this is something the high ranks of Germany already knew, in all likelihood. And it's not like it was a public admittance of guilt, just an off-the-record conversation that's easily denied if it comes to it.
In my opinion, until now Germany could politely iggnore the whole thing. As both sides kept silent about it.

But now an official has talked about the fact. So Germany at some level has to take notice.
Add that there seems to be some bad blood between the personal involved and that can blow up in spectecular ways. Like the USA pilot had not yelled but hit Ben... remember this is not the OTL Cold War with little to no contact between the population of the two blocks.

And how many unintentional listeners did this little thing have? One "unnamed" source going to the press and all that is blown wide open.
 
The Nixon Administration can claim "Plausible Deniability" that this happened during the Rockefeller Administration and they were not briefed by them during the transition.
The "Official Story" is that the United States sent USN pilots as advisers and trainers to the Chilean Air Force.
The problem was that the USN pilots disobeyed orders and flew missions for the Chilean Air Force while using falsified identification papers, or that is what the United States will claim.
Germany may for their own reasons may officially accept the explanation but will send a message to the Nixon Administration that this is unacceptable and next time they won't be quiet about it.
The real problem is that the American press is going to break the story with interviews with the Navy pilots that were cut loose by the Navy after the end of combat, and the families of the pilots who were killed and finding out that they are not getting the life insurance and other benefits the the survivors should have received, (that is not canon).
 
The problem was that the USN pilots disobeyed orders and flew missions for the Chilean Air Force while using falsified identification papers, or that is what the United States will claim.
That will go down well in the international press...
I can see the Yellow Press articles about the lack of discipline and the Cowboy mentality of the USA pilots... and whats the chance someone will dig out the incidents from the Mexican War were USA airplanes shot at German ones...
Oh yes, not just Ostrich eggs but Brontosaurus ones...
 
That will go down well in the international press...
I can see the Yellow Press articles about the lack of discipline and the Cowboy mentality of the USA pilots... and whats the chance someone will dig out the incidents from the Mexican War were USA airplanes shot at German ones...
Oh yes, not just Ostrich eggs but Brontosaurus ones...
Of course the story won't hold, it will lead to "Clarifications and Corrections" and each time they are made the United States loses credibility that it doesn't have a lot of in the first place.
The best thing to do is for the Nixon Administration to do a "Limited Hangout" placing the blame squarely on the previous Administration, and pledge never to use Armed Forces personnel in a covert manner in any future open conflict.
Congress is going to hold hearings and may pass a law prohibiting any future administration from using covert troops in combat.
 
Congress is going to hold hearings and may pass a law prohibiting any future administration from using covert troops in combat.
Which the CIA will, it it's finest traditions, completely ignore.
But that's fine as far as the Administration is concerned as they didn't order it, (on paper at least).
 
The best thing to do is for the Nixon Administration to do a "Limited Hangout" placing the blame squarely on the previous Administration, and pledge never to use Armed Forces personnel in a covert manner in any future open conflict.
Sorry, but maybe you remember the Presidents and affiliation for the Chinese-Korean War and the one in South America? Becasue I do not.

So Nixon could certainly blame the prior Administration. But as they say... once could happen, twice is a trend and thrice is enemy action (paraphrased and adjusted) so others could Imo see a worrying trend in the tools the USA use for foreign policy.
 

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This TL is so immense that I cannot remember if a US President has ever undertaken a State Visit to Germany.

If not, “Only Nixon could go to Berlin.” ?
 
This TL is so immense that I cannot remember if a US President has ever undertaken a State Visit to Germany.

If not, “Only Nixon could go to Berlin.” ?
Truman, Harriman; and Rockefeller all made trips to Berlin.
Truman when he went, he gone through Customs where a Red- haired female Customs Officer treated him like any other foreign visitor to Germany.
This started the tradition of American Presidents going through customs when they go to other countries like they were ordinary visitors.
 
Part 145, Chapter 2627
Chapter Two Thousand Six Hundred Twenty-Seven


15th July 1977

Portland, Oregon

Tonight was different than her other public appearances. Having reporters shouting the same stupid questions at her or being told that she was not what people imagined when they pictured what a Princess looked like. Sorry for not looking like Aurora from the Disney movies, Kiki thought sourly to herself. She wondered what the people saying that would think if they met Kiki’s friend Aurora. If some of the things she had heard about Walt Disney were true…

Kiki pushed that thought out of her mind to focus on the present moment. While she had wanted her appearance on American television a week earlier to be informal, tonight was different especially after what had happened over the last few days. On the Tonight Show she had only been representing herself. She was wearing the powder blue Officer’s dress tunic of the German Medical Service with the Medals and Orders pinned to it as well as the cornflower blue beret with the silver pin, the Rod of Asclepius in a wreath. It was Kiki’s hope that it would help express the importance of what she had to say as her speech tonight would doubtlessly be recorded and minutely examined in the days ahead.

The German American Society of Portland gave Kiki polite applause as she was introduced. She had no expectations when her plane had touched down a few hours earlier. Nancy Jensen had described Portland as a gritty industrial city that was somewhat socially backwards even by American standards. A friend of Nancy’s from University had lived in Portland and Kiki got the impression that something about that had left a bad taste in her mouth. Out of respect though, Kiki had left it at that. There was nothing making Nancy perform the role she played for Kiki’s family.

If anything Nancy going to Silesia and being the Lady of the Manor as it were with her husband in Oppeln would be far easier managing their public image. Nancy said that Kiki’s family made her job easy because unlike some other families she could mention, they had actual jobs and knew the price of milk and bread. That was mostly true, though in the case of Ria considering herself an Activist and Michael calling himself a Producer of films and television shows, there was a bit of wishful thinking involved.

What Kiki had seen of Portland was a city baking under summer heat during the drive from the airport to the hotel. Her brief meeting with the Mayor of Portland had been cordial, though something about that man gave Kiki the creeps.

With that delightful thought in mind, Kiki stepped up to the microphone.

“Thank you for your kind invitation to speak with you tonight” Kiki said into the microphone. “Normally I have a prepared speech that I give at events like this one, but that feels inappropriate.”

Kiki had been thinking about this since the conversation she’d had with General Ware, the FSR career badge she had worn for years, and the games that national agencies played against each other. While she understood the reason for all that, the conversation with Ware had suggested that the regular Military had grown weary of it. There were also those caught in the middle who didn’t deserve to become collateral damage.

“As my introduction suggested, I am an Emergency Surgeon” Kiki said. She was aware that her career was controversial among some elements of American society. That was something she was used to by now. In Germany her career, marriage to one of the New Junkers, her choice in religion, and so much more were not without controversy. “Primum non nocere, the very first line of the Hippocratic oath in Latin, First do no harm. As a Field Medic and later in Medical School, those words were a key part of the Ethics Courses that I was required to attend. While that is well understood how that relates to treating an injury, a broken bone or laceration is obvious as is how to treat it, there are far more insidious harms that happen.”

Kiki could see the crowd was getting fidgety. They were probably wondering what she was getting at.

“What harm has been done to the people in this room?” Kiki asked, “Those who have fallen under suspicion through no fault of their own? The entire purpose of organizations like this one is to create avenues for dialog, so that nations with shared interests could avoid exactly what has happened over the last few decades.”

With that Kiki knew that she had probably just made several enemies, but at least they would have cause. Ordinary people getting stomped on because of their last name or where their great-grandfather came from was absurd. She wasn’t about to mention what Ware had told her about how some of the planes that Ben’s Wing had shot down may have had American pilots behind the controls and the survivors had been left imbittered by the experience. When she had discussed that matter with Ben, he had said that there had been times with they had gone against fliers who were better than most. There had been rumors, sure, but everyone knew that digging too deeply into those would have long reaching consequences. Kiki had read the reports produced by the High Command, the ones that would absolutely terrify the public if they were ever published, so she was all too aware of what those consequences were.

“The sort of wars that occurred nearly every generation between world powers are a luxury that we can no longer afford” Kiki said, as absurd as the idea of war being a luxury sounded to her own ears. “If we allow those avenues of communications to be closed it is inevitable that misunderstandings will occur, rivalries will fester into hostility, and in this era where nuclear weapons are a reality, war between powers is nothing less than mutual suicide.”
 
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