Stupid Luck and Happenstance, Thread III

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The Difference between badly behaved children and especially minor Royals is that Badly behave children tend to grow out of that phase whilst minor Royals have spent a live time growing into it!!
I am continuously amazed by the intelligence and insight of the author and those who comment in this timeline! I can replace "minor royal" with the person of my choice - including me - and it makes so much sense. Thankyou to all!
 
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Sir Malcolm took a job in the Ministry of Defense and having witnessed the deficiencies of the RCMP in that role and as a response to the German KSK and US Special Forces, knew something else needed to be done.

It sounds like Robert Lane is a grey man. Put him in an ID line up with a hi viz jacket and a sign over his head saying "pick me" and he'll somehow fade into the background.
Ideal SF material. Doesn't stand out, is dependable and discreet.
If he tells everyone he has a boring job they believe him because, well, look at him, he's no Joachim Löwe is he?
And of course he's friends with Malcolm, he's just an all round quiet, dependable guy who sells insurance.

Insurance for Canada Securities...
 
Marie is a sure in to the diplomatic corps if she wants it polygly has an understanding of multiple cultures and has a realistic view of the intelligence tango between powers.
 
Part 138, Chapter 2373
Chapter Two Thousand Three Hundred Seventy-Three



16th May 1975

Tzschocha, Silesia

The Professor droned on about the German Romantism and the role that it played in eventually uniting of the Empire. The Professor wanted them to learn that it was ultimately a nationalist movement and that there were negative aspects to that on the form of reactionary politics which would culminate in the First World War. Mathilda didn’t really need a lesson in that. She had seen first-hand how her father had been part of a similar movement. The anti-Semitic and anti-Slavic language he had used to excuse everything wrong with his life had grown more apparent to Mathilda in the time which she had been away from him.

An entire nation expressing views like the ones expressed by her father, Mathilda found the idea to be rather distasteful. Only the Gods knew what sort of Hell on Earth that might turn into. Of course, none of it would ever be the fault of men like that. The First World War had resulted directly in the Federal Constitution of 1922 when the others who had suffered under their leadership had had enough.

Glancing at the clock, Mathilda wished that the period would come to an end so that she could go outside and enjoy the spring afternoon. The minutes creeped by as the Professor continued with the lecture about life after the French occupation under Napoleon Bonaparte. She wished that they could skip ahead to the Franco-Prussian War or the Spring Revolution of 1921. She had read through the German History textbook months earlier and had been impatiently following along with the rest of the class ever since. The Professor wanted them to not just be able to recite places and dates, but to understand why events happened, what drove people to make the decisions they did. The class might have been interesting if it moved at a less plodding pace.

The class mercifully ended when everyone was dismissed with the Professor telling them their reading assignments. It was a chapter that Mathilda had read and reread months earlier, so she figured that would save a bit of time. The groans from her classmates suggested that they thought it was this huge ordeal, a few thousand words about poets and composers in the Eighteenth and Nineteenth Centuries. Yes the material was rather dry, but all they had to do was read it. She was reminded of Opa’s comments about how many people stopped learning the instant it was no longer required.

Leaving the classroom, Mathilda saw Anna Schultz and a pair of her friends walking down the hallway. She had left Mathilda entirely alone this year. Supposedly, she had been read the riot act by her mother and grandmother the prior summer over her slipping grades and bullying of other students. Whatever had been said it had been enough to keep Anna from causing too much trouble for months. Making her way to the Administration Desk, she was surprised by a handful of letters in the box assigned to her. Her last name starting with an “A” meant that it was near the top. She could just reach it, some of the younger or shorter girls needed to use the ladder that was there for exactly that purpose. It was a minor annoyance. She shoved the letters into her bookbag so that she could read them at her own leisure.

Walking into the hall that was used as a cafeteria by the students and faculty, she was underwhelmed by the smell of bland food. Getting a tray, Mathilda looked at what looked like Potatoes and kale with onions. There was grey sausage included. Out of long habit, she reached for the salt and pepper but had a sinking feeling that it wouldn’t help too much in this case.

Not in any hurry to eat, Mathilda started going through her letters. The first was from her mother, she was reaching out to learn if she was well and a reminder that her birthday was coming up next month. This wasn’t the first letter which Mathilda’s mother had sent over the last few months, and she had yet to respond being unsure as what exactly to say. She had not seen her mother since shortly after she had snuck into the Barracks of the 1st Foot, an action that had resulted in her being made a Ward of the State, three years earlier. Setting that aside, she saw that there was the weekly letter from Opa. Like the others she had received in the past this one was almost stream of consciousness. The events on the estate, letters from Niko who was in Argentina, something that Ingrid had said, Opa disliking the infirmities that came with age, how the dogs were doing, Ina and Christian’s return after their honeymoon in Greece had ended abruptly…

“You mind if I sit here Tilda?” A voice asked. Looking up, Mathilda saw that it was Edmée or Eddi as she preferred to be called, was a bespectacled, mousey girl. She had been a frequent target of Anna in years past by being socially awkward and having a French first name. At some point she had decided that they should be friends and Mathilda had never had the heart to chase her off because it was obvious that it was something that Eddi desperately needed.

“You can if you want” Mathilda replied as she turned her attention back to her meal. Allowing to grow cold would probably not help it any. She saw that Eddi had opened a newspaper and the headline read Greece accused of War Crimes as fighting resumes and that explained why Ina and Christian had needed to return sooner than expected.
 
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Greece is once again starting things up in the Eastern Mediterranean and at this point IOTL it is the Cyprus Crisis with the Coup of 1974 in Cyprus over the question of enosis with Greece and the subsequent invasion by Turkey.
ITTL Greece is much stronger than Turkey and could at this time have invaded Cyprus to complete the enosis.
I don't know the status of Cyprus; it could be independent as it was IOTL or still a colony of Great Britain.
Greece could be going after the Dodecanese Islands that belongs to Italy ITTL, or it can be going after Turkey itself and may be trying to cut off the last outlet that Turkey could have with the Mediterranean Sea, and if the United States Navy has port facilities at Adana that could be trouble.
So, Greece could be in either direct or indirect conflict with Great Britian, Italy, or the United States at this time and Germany could find itself torn over the question of intervening if there is no threat to German interests.
 
Greece is once again starting things up in the Eastern Mediterranean and at this point IOTL it is the Cyprus Crisis with the Coup of 1974 in Cyprus over the question of enosis with Greece and the subsequent invasion by Turkey.
ITTL Greece is much stronger than Turkey and could at this time have invaded Cyprus to complete the enosis.
I don't know the status of Cyprus; it could be independent as it was IOTL or still a colony of Great Britain.
Greece could be going after the Dodecanese Islands that belongs to Italy ITTL, or it can be going after Turkey itself and may be trying to cut off the last outlet that Turkey could have with the Mediterranean Sea, and if the United States Navy has port facilities at Adana that could be trouble.
So, Greece could be in either direct or indirect conflict with Great Britian, Italy, or the United States at this time and Germany could find itself torn over the question of intervening if there is no threat to German interests.

Honestly the Greeks probably already annexed Cyprus a while back, probably during or soon after the war in the late 40s/early 50s. The British probably would have just handed over Cyprus to the Greeks for the political points it would have gained them with the Greek government; especially since how the Turks don't really have anything to offer, being in bed with the Russians and without control of the Straits, after all.

The Americans probably have basing agreements on Cyprus from the British rather than anything else, since they're much more isolationist than IOTL but still friendly with the UK.

And since fighting is resuming, I'm pretty sure it's the Greeks fighting the Turks again rather than picking a fight with the Italians, since there hasn't been a war over the Dodecanese yet, after all...
 
Honestly the Greeks probably already annexed Cyprus a while back, probably during or soon after the war in the late 40s/early 50s. The British probably would have just handed over Cyprus to the Greeks for the political points it would have gained them with the Greek government
Definitely not. Decolonization is far behind schedule ITTL, and the British Empire still stands strong. The Royal Navy is probably still the strongest navy in the world, and handing over one of their important bases just like that isn’t really likely. Also, Greece is significantly more powerful here, to the point where it probably is a regional power and a potential rival of the British in the area.
The Americans probably have basing agreements on Cyprus from the British rather than anything else, since they're much more isolationist than IOTL but still friendly with the UK.
No way Americans have basing rights there. American relationships with Britain, and Western Europe in general, seem to have ranged between frosty and cordial for the last few decades, not helped by events like the leaked American war plans against the British, the Americans being blatant profiteers during WW2, and a couple of German intelligence blunders.

The British, and the French and Germans would probably support them, would throw a fit if the Americans wanted a base in the Med.

Nevermind also that America doesn’t have nearly the global oriented military that it had OTL by this point, and that their power projection abilities are dubious outside of North and Central America.
 
Part 138, Chapter 2374
Chapter Two Thousand Three Hundred Seventy-Four



18th May 1975

Near Los Grutas, Rio Negro Province, Argentina

After days in the saddle in the monotonous landscape of the Patagonian Steppe, the Rio Negro with the trees and the meandering river was like a slice of paradise. Juan had been silent all morning as they had drawn closer to what Niko figured was his home.

“Afraid that your Opa will ask for the horse and pistol back?” Willi asked.

“No” Juan replied, clearly not interested in saying more.

The fact that they were riding the patrol this time had everything to do with how Oberst von Kropp had not been happy to see Niko get off the plane. It seemed that von Kropp had figured out the real role that Niko had been playing once he was no longer around to get the Dons to return von Kropp’s phone calls much to his embarrassment. That was why he had arranged for Niko to do every truly crappy job that the Regiment offered. Eventually, someone had figured out that with the Regiment’s area of operation being massive they needed everyone they could get out in the field. That resulted in Niko being sent to the frontier chasing after smugglers and various types of bandits. Because the Patagonian War had concluded just a few years earlier there were still a considerable number of weapons in the hands of people that one wouldn’t expect to find them with. What they lacked was the logistics chain to support those weapons and the expertise to use them effectively.

That had happened a couple different times with a mortar that none of them knew how to aim and machine gun whose operator had tried to fire the wrong kind of ammunition through it with unexpected results. The gunner had been fortunate to even still be alive as they had taken him into custody, but he was unaware of how stupid he had been. The barrel getting blown apart was better than him getting the bolt or parts of the receiver through his head. Apparently he had been bluffing with the thing for months. Niko figured that it would be a funny story at some point in the future, but now all he remembered was how he had been one of those caught flatfooted as some random outlaw was pointing that 1919 Browning at them.

Now finally, they were approaching a safe place to rest and wait for further orders. For Niko it was a chance to wrap his head around what he had been doing and what he actually wanted to do with his life. Were the last few weeks a preview of the coming years if he stayed in the 3rd Hussars? And would going to University like his parents clearly wanted really him to be such a bad thing?

As they approached the walls of the Casa, Niko the gates were open and a half-dozen riders raced out to greet them. They were typical of the Gauchos found in this region. Tough men who lived up to their reputations. He had once joked with Willi about how they had found themselves in a Western, he had learned that he had not understood the half of it.

“Welcome home brother” One of the Gauchos said as they got close. Niko could see that he was in his mid-twenties with a black moustache and a sly grin. He was addressing Juan and Niko realized that this was Carlos, the older brother who Juan had mentioned a few times whose shadow he was trying to escape. Juan didn’t respond, he just stared at his older brother with a blank look on his face. After a long awkward moment, Carlos gave up.

“And you must be the German Prince we have been hearing about” Carlos said looking at Niko, “Grandfather is very interested in having a word with you tonight, we’ve been hearing all about how you’ve conducting yourself in Rio Gallegos for the last several months.”

Before Niko could respond, he turned his horse and galloped back to the Casa. If word of this reached Oberst von Kropp, it would be one more strike against him and the last thing he wanted was to return to Wahlstatt with the Oberst as an enemy. He also saw that Juan was glaring in the direction that his brother had gone. This was more than just a bit of sibling rivalry. His older brother was charismatic and was apparently being groomed to be the eventual successor to their father. Juan on the other hand was being encouraged to make his own way in the world and Niko suspected that was the reason why he seemed to have gone to considerable trouble to get close to him.

The questions for Niko were why and to what end?

Niko couldn’t see the angle.

The scene in the courtyard was one of complete chaos as the Patrol came through the gates. Men and women of all ages, horses, and dogs. The music that was coming through big double doors that were the entrance to the main house suggested that someone had already started the party without them. He knew that the odds were high that this was a test of sorts. Martzel Ibarra was a legend in this region as well as the BND circles back home. He would be watching to see how Niko reacted in an unexpected situation. The other men in Patrol were oblivious to all of this. They just saw an opportunity to spend a night in relative comfort and a fiesta was a bonus. The guarded look on Juan’s face suggested that he was thinking along the same lines as Niko was.

“Spread the word that I want everyone on their best behavior” Niko said to Willi, “Remember we are guests here.”

The expression on Willi’s face said that even he knew that order would not be well received. Yet Niko felt that it was necessary.
 
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My take is that while Niko is proving himself to be a good soldier, he is showing that he is a natural at being a diplomat.
As for Juan, his grandfather is plying the long game here with the von Richthofen Family holding extensive amount of land in Argentina, someone has to manage the properties for them in Argentina, so why not an Ibarra?
That is what Grandfather Ibarra is going to talk to Niko about, Niko is probably scheduled to go home soon, and Juan could go back with him and get some experience at the von Richthofen estate in Selicia and maybe an education and degree in Land Management from the University of Breslau.
 
My take is that while Niko is proving himself to be a good soldier, he is showing that he is a natural at being a diplomat.
As for Juan, his grandfather is plying the long game here with the von Richthofen Family holding extensive amount of land in Argentina, someone has to manage the properties for them in Argentina, so why not an Ibarra?
That is what Grandfather Ibarra is going to talk to Niko about, Niko is probably scheduled to go home soon, and Juan could go back with him and get some experience at the von Richthofen estate in Selicia and maybe an education and degree in Land Management from the University of Breslau.
Your spiderweb analysis' never cease to amze me....
 
For people like Manfred von Richthofen, Martzel Ibarra, and Katherine von Mischner Family and Favors are intertwined, and each of them have something the others want and also have something that they need from the others.
The trick of course is for each of them to feel that they got the best end of any favors and not to feel indebted to anyone.
 
Wonder how well known Martzel Ibarra’s exploits in German intelligence are. It’s clear that the circle of people with links to the BND and predecessors know about it, but is it public knowledge in Argentina?

Also, how substantial is the German speaking community in Argentina at this point?
 
Your spiderweb analysis' never cease to amze me....
@ejpsan has a habit of being able to follow threads of stories and plausibly extrapolate outcomes very well. Not going to lie, I find it impressive.
If I was an author, I'd find it frustrating (in a positive way though), people like him stop authors being boring and predictable.
 
Part 138, Chapter 2375
Chapter Two Thousand Three Hundred Seventy-Five



24th May 1975

Richthofen Estate, Rural Silesia

Albrecht had gotten a taste of what his father did over the last few weeks and was already finding not to his liking. It was a heavy burden had he felt obligated to carry even though it meant giving up much of what he had carved out for himself over the prior decades. Watching his father sip his drink as he sat by the fire, Albrecht was struck by how this scene had probably not changed in centuries. Mathilda Auer had said that she saw Manfred von Richthofen as something akin to a High King from the Viking Epics, that was never truer than now.

The study was uncomfortably warm as it tended to be when Manfred the Elder was present, which was most of the time these days. Albrecht didn’t hold that against his father, he just wished that they could hold these meetings in a more neutral setting. Having him sweating through his clothes as his father explained some other facet of his vision for their family’s future. Which Albrecht was finding difficult to pay attention to because of the intrusive thoughts that were swirling repeatedly around his brain.

While Albrecht admired the aspect of his father that was the ability to bring his ambitions to reality, he feared that vision would run aground on the shoals of reality and might not live long past Manfred the Elder himself. To put it plainly, Albrecht already found himself trying to fill his father’s shoes and worried that he wasn’t adequate. Give him a Carrier Taskforce with a well-ordered crews and a clear set of orders, and Albrecht could exceed even the wildest of expectations. Silesia was far messier though and there were dozens of competing interests that all had valid claims. How on earth had the old buzzard managed to play this game for so many decades without having them eat him alive?

Albrecht was nowhere near as ruthless as his father. So, what was going to happen once his father was no longer around? For all his scheming and ambition, the one thing that Manfred the Elder had never seemed to consider was that he was as mortal as any other man.

“I received the latest letter from Nikolaus” Manfred the Elder said, “It seems the Martzel Ibarra has finally reached out to him, that old reprobate is looking for a deal involving the younger of his two grandsons.”

They had discussed this months before. Manfred the Elder knew a great deal about what the political situation was in Argentina where land was a sign of political clout and the Richthofen family owned a great deal of land in that country. That had given Nikolaus a seat at the table in Patagonia, and it had also created friction with his Commanding Officer who was not nearly as well regarded. Manfred had stated that sometimes having to sooth the bruised egos of his superiors was something the Nikolaus was just going have to do throughout his career, no matter what it ultimately was. It was one of the few times in which Albrecht was in perfect agreement with his father.

“Just what does he have in mind?” Albrecht asked.

“Nothing too difficult” Manfred replied, “Just the introductions being made and getting an indifferent student to go to University.”

“Sounds all too familiar” Albrecht said, he and Ilse had been trying to convince Nikolaus that he should go on to higher education. If for no other reason than Ilse thinking, probably correctly, that being a Cavalry Trooper in this era wasn’t a career with much of a future. Nikolaus being a teenager though, he had seen the opportunity for adventure and little else.

“I think that when Nikolaus gets back this time he will be a lot more agreeable with what you are Ilse have been telling him” Manfred said, “Nothing like a good dose of reality to get a young man to see he has better options.”

“Speaking from personal experience?”

Manfred the Elder didn’t answer that question. Though he’d had a Classical Education in the fashion of a Nineteenth-Century Gentleman, he had excelled on the athletic field rather than the classroom. Albrecht suspected that was part of the reason why he enjoyed the presence of Sabastian Schultz on Holidays, the boy reminded him of a younger version of himself.

“I’ve been observing how you have been running things” Manfred said, changing the subject. “You are going to burn out if you don’t change your perspective.”

“And what perspective do I need?” Albrecht asked in reply.

“This isn’t commanding a ship at sea” Manfred said, “More like being the referee at a Football match.”

“What about all the times you have given a hard no to people and advised me to do the same?”

“You mean telling Aaron von Groß to go fuck himself last week over his latest hairbrained venture?” Manfred replied, “I’ve done that a lot over the years and that idiot has never figured out that it is far more useful for me to tell him no.”

There was cynical and then there was this, which was taking it to a whole new level.

“He is Sonje’s husband” Albrecht said.

“And I told her that her marriage to that louse was a mistake” Manfred replied, “That was right after Helene had married into the Mischner family and Sonje was desperate to keep up appearances by marrying into a family with an old title. A few decades later, how has that worked out?”

Albrecht seldom heard his father talk about his sister’s various marriages. He had often referred to Hans von Mischner as a lummox, but that was it. He had stopped doing that after watching how the Polish Campaign, in which Hans had masterfully commanded an Army Group, had played out. Over the years Manfred seemed to have come to the opinion that Sonje and Caecilia, his two youngest daughters, could have done better in that regard.
 
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The mans the ultimate patriarch.

Helene may be her father's daughter, but none of the kids are up to "his" standards...
I mean, I'm pretty sure the Old Man is very proud of both Helene and Albrecht, even if he is loath to admit it. He has to keep up appearances.

Mind you, he has also been very supportive of Helene's political career, though we don't know that much about that. Wonder how Helene and her party are doing, btw.
 
Albrecht seldom heard his father talk about his sister’s various marriages. He had often referred to Hans von Mischner as a lummox, but that was it. He had stopped doing that after watching how the Polish Campaign, in which Hans had masterfully commanded an Army Group, had played out.
I miss updates from the POV of Hans. Is he still doing football commentary?
 
He hasn't been doing much beyond being retired, something that will change. Beyond that, Football commentary is him getting paid to do what he loves to do anyway.
Likely to be the doting grandfather before too long getting another generation involved with his favourite Berlin team (can't remember whether he's FC Hertha or a partisan for one of the others).
 
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