Even when it has happened to you, after a while you look back on it fondly, especially of you're talking about it with someone else who went through it with you. --- "Do you remember when Hauptfeldwebel Reier made us run through the swamp carrying bonesaws"? "Oh shit, yeah, that was when that dumb Pole Reziak fell over, Psycho Reier grabbed him and his bonesaw and ran with both to the end" [Both laughing hard] "Oh fuck yeah, Reziak was begging him to stop and put him down, Reier didn't and he spewed all down his back. I thought Psycho was actually going to kill him" "Still, he was tough, but fair. Never ordered us to do anything he wouldn't do himself". "Christ yeah, him and The Teacher" "Kept us alive though. Remember that time in Borneo when we had to get those Aussies out of the shit"? --- That's the sort of thing that happens afterwards though, a long time afterwards among veterans who are still alive, mostly followed by them complaining how soft training "today" is.