Stupid Luck and Happenstance, Thread II

Chapter One Thousand Six Hundred Sixty-Eight
It was nice to see Zella have a bit of success. Emil’s hope was that she would be able to build on it, she was on pace to finish University with a Master’s in Fine Arts. That would further burnish her reputation.

I don't know if you did it to make it easier to understand for international audience...
...but Germany had no University Masters before 1999 OTL. They were part of the Bologna-reform a process which had the goal to make university decrees comparable in europe.

University decrees were called "Diplom of the Fine Arts" for example.
 
I don't know if you did it to make it easier to understand for international audience...
...but Germany had no University Masters before 1999 OTL. They were part of the Bologna-reform a process which had the goal to make university decrees comparable in europe.

University decrees were called "Diplom of the Fine Arts" for example.
The reason why I did that was because the sort of degree that we are talking about has a definition that is a dozen paragraphs long and varied widely from institution to institution. Just calling a four to six year degree a "Master's Degree" is shorthand so that everyone knows what I am talking about. Was that lazy on my part? Perhaps.
 
The reason why I did that was because the sort of degree that we are talking about has a definition that is a dozen paragraphs long and varied widely from institution to institution. Just calling a four to six year degree a "Maste r's Degree" is shorthand so that everyone knows what I am talking about. Was that lazy on my part? Perhaps.

I have no real problem with it.
Like i said "easier to understand for international audience"
An author has to write for his readers. ;)
 
The day after Christmas, Nizhoni had called to tell him that Walter von Horst, arguably the toughest man who Emil had ever known, had suffered a major heart attack. It was supposedly over before he had hit the ground. Emil wasn’t about to say it to Nizhoni, but the fact that it had been quick and relatively painless had been a mercy. The last time that Emil had seen Horst at the beginning of December, he had been in poor health. Despite all his efforts to get the diabetes under control Horst had been told by his doctor that he was almost inevitably going to face being a double amputee in the coming year. Horst had been spared that.

Emil had a hard time accepting it though. Horst had been a fixture in his life since he had been fifteen, almost fifty years earlier. Now he was gone, and Emil was going to his funeral.

Damn dust, getting in my eyes...

R.I.P. Walter "Mad Dog" von Horst. You will be missed.
 

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PM has done the simplification of the German university system and making it more palatable especially for US readers for quite some time.

Just a short summary of some of the main differences

1. studying in Germany was and is free so there is no possibility for big spenders to buy tickets for their children.
2. if you had the Abitur (end of 13 year school education with a hefty final exam at the end) you were qualified for any study (certain restrictions apply like medicine that is asking for very good grades).
3. If you had the Abitur it was assumed you can study your item. No BS or Master no majoring or anything like it you study what you do to the diploma and thats it.
4 Regular job education (apprentice) and university education are two different worlds. Even a 99% finished diploma in economics does not make you an accountant which would be another 3 years education.
5 Due to 3 you never had to take courses in other areas. If you study math you study math no need for any other items.

There are a couple more like professors being Beamten (see my post on this) but I fully support PM on making the German system more palatable. If anyone has specific questions ask or mail.
 
So much to unpack here, the death of Walter von Horst is the end of an era and while the funeral will not be a State Funeral it will bring military leaders from around the world.
It will also bring out a lot of current and former soldiers who served with him and the stories they will tell will be variations on the the same theme, those who were enlisted will tell how von Horst kicked their ass all over the place but then will say how it saved their and fellow soldiers lives in (insert country here), those who were officers only will tell how having von Horst trained NCOs and officers greatly improved the unit.

Loved the way we got an update on Emil's family, Zella is on her way to becoming a force in documentaries, I will bet anything that Maria is very pleased that her son Walter wants to go to Law School instead of the military and Emil I fear is doomed to see all of his friends and contemporaries did before he does.
 
As some one who sees his former comrades in arms pass away due to difficulties acquired in the service of their country Horst's death brings a note of sadness to all the ones I served with die before me due to, Agent Orange, unable to come to terms with the horror they saw, alcoholism, depression and PTSD. I feel for Emil but also for Peabody Martinin for bringing this to light,
 
I'm quite sure that on his lucid days the Admiral wishes he was.

It is not a nice way he is going out.

The last update that mentioned the Admiral had him feeling sorry for the rapid decline of whoever it was the strange visitors (his daughters) were talking to Esther about. He was also glad that he wasn't that person. 😢
 
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Will the Navajo be sending a delegation because of his wife and his record? Also in the groups of veterans they will have to have a way of determining who out of that group gets to be inside of the service vs outside. Emil will be the one most likely to carry Horst medals and such with Hans being maybe the other choice and Emil being the senior military mourner and the Kaiser being the Senior government one.
 
The last update that mentioned the Admiral had him feeling sorry for the rapid decline of whoever it was the strange visitors (his daughters) were talking to Esther about. He was also glad that he wasn't that person. 😢
I wonder if admiral von smith ever though of sailing alone into Atlantic ocean in one man sailboat.
 
Part 103, Chapter 1669
Chapter One Thousand Six Hundred Sixty-Nine



29th January 1964

Potsdam

It seemed that over the course of his career, Piers Sjostedt had noticed that people tended to be focused on both ends of their lives. It seemed like baptisms and funerals were where he saw most people. What they did in the middle between those two events was a bit more important. No one could argue that Walter Horst didn’t leave his mark, they might quibble about how he did it though. There were a lot of people, especially in Russia and among those who had formerly been under his command, who might argue that Horst was the Devil himself.

The sort of life that Horst had led was definitely checkered by anyone’s standard and Sjostedt knew it because they had spent a lot of time together in the trenches as it were in the First World War. He fully understood the dichotomy of the man himself like few others did.

Horst had been a Soldier, first in the Ranks and eventually rising to the rank of Generaloberst and he’d had many of the vices associated with that. Horst drank, smoked, gambled and was about as irreligious a man as Sjostedt had ever known. He could be extremely vulgar and rude at times as well. There were a lot of good reasons why he had earned the nickname “Mad Dog” somewhere along the line during his career. There were also the attendant arrogance, pride and wrath Horst had exhibited in large measures during his life.

There was the other side of him as well. Horst had been a faithful husband and a good father. Something that was especially important to Sjostedt because Horst had been married to his younger sister Nina. Sjostedt’s mind kept going back to all the times that Horst had his back in life and death situations. Or Horst’s reaction when the two of them came face to face with the sort of ugly bigotry that people like Sjostedt were subjected to by Americans. Horst was also a member of the most prestigious Orders of the Realm, some of which he had been granted on more than one occasion at different stages of his career. That included getting inducted into the Order of the Red Eagle no less than three times and the House Order of Hohenzollern twice. No one doubted his bravery or integrity for a second.

For those who knew Horst, whether they loved or hated him, news of his passing had come like a punch to the gut. When he had been leading the charge as a younger man, he had seemed invincible.

The Old Garrison Church of Potsdam was a building that the weight of history fell heavily on. The events that had occurred within its walls reverberated throughout Germany over the previous centuries and if everyone was being honest, it had not always been in the most positive way. While holding this event here was in keeping with Horst’s stature and reflected his career, Sjostedt was acutely aware of how this was also making him a part of that history. What role did a man like Sjostedt, who had dedicated a considerable portion of his life to the cause of peace have in a place like this, whose very purpose seemed very contrary to everything he stood for?

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As Uncle Piers stood before the gathered mourners and began the litany, Nizhoni knew that her father would have hated the circus that this whole thing had become. Today, his ashes were to be interred here. After everything that Walter Horst had done with his life, all that remained was an urn and a pillow with his medals on it.

For Nizhoni, this whole thing was a nightmare.

When her father had died her mother had been left completely catatonic and her older brothers had been almost completely useless. She had been the one to tell Uncle Piers that the closest her father had come to giving instructions about what he wanted after his death had been “Burn me with the rest of the trash.” Piers had just shrugged and written down that the General had requested cremation and had proceeded with making the arrangements. Nizhoni had realized that this wasn’t the first time that Uncle Piers had dealt with situations like this.

Then the calls had started.

Everyone wanted to know when and where the service was going to be. Nizhoni didn’t have any answers for that. She had two small daughters to care for on top of all of this. Petra was still a baby, which made things easier. Elke on the other hand had a lot of questions. She understood that her Opa had been sick, then he had gone away and wasn’t coming back. The adults in her life weren’t exactly forthcoming. And was the concept of mortality something that a four-year-old needed to have weighing on them?

That was when Katherine had stepped in and had made the arrangements which was a godsend. Nizhoni had thought that this church was a bit much, until she had seen who would be in attendance. Still, she was ambivalent about her sister-in-law. Yes, Katherine was generous with her time, was good with Elke and Petra, and had helped out Stefan and Nizhoni countless times. Yet beneath it all there was a ruthlessness to Katherine that was unsettling. Stefan said that it was because she was the daughter of their father and left it at that. Nizhoni hadn’t found that comforting though. Everything that she had learned about Stefan’s father had been disquieting, he was believed to have been a Machiavellian figure controlling the underworld from the shadows for decades. It seemed that his efforts had culminated in the person of his daughter, the very embodiment of the iron fist in the velvet glove.

With that the litany concluded and Nizhoni realized that she hadn’t listened to a single word of it. The eulogies were about to start, with the first being by the Emperor himself. She hoped that they would at least be honest about her father, they owed him that much.
 
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I am sure that Emil at least will be honest when talking about his old Staber. At least as honest as old soldiers tales tend to be, which means that while the details might be iffy, its the emotions that are important.
 
Hopefully someone will mention Walter von Horst greatest legacy, it was when he was left in charge of the 4th Division during the protest in Berlin by von Wolvogle when he and the others officers left to take a piss and the demonstration broke up peacefully.
By that non action that Horst took paved the way for a peaceful transformation of Germany which made it the great power it is today.
So here is to Walter von Horst the Saviour of Democracy in Germany.
 
Hopefully someone will mention Walter von Horst greatest legacy, it was when he was left in charge of the 4th Division during the protest in Berlin by von Wolvogle when he and the others officers left to take a piss and the demonstration broke up peacefully.
It wasn't the entire Division, it was a detachment of elements of it. Your point is still good though.
 
Hopefully someone will mention Walter von Horst greatest legacy, it was when he was left in charge of the 4th Division during the protest in Berlin by von Wolvogle when he and the others officers left to take a piss and the demonstration broke up peacefully.
By that non action that Horst took paved the way for a peaceful transformation of Germany which made it the great power it is today.
So here is to Walter von Horst the Saviour of Democracy in Germany.
Probably Emil, Louis Ferdinand maybe as well.
 
Part 103, Chapter 1670
Chapter One Thousand Six Hundred Seventy



2nd January 1965

Pankow-Heinersdorf, Berlin

It was a typical weekday afternoon in Gert’s tavern. A thin crowd of regulars from the neighborhood plus office workers from the city who were sneaking out early on the Friday of a holiday week. That reflected the changing nature of the neighborhood. The light industry that had defined the neighborhood when Hans had been a child were largely gone and even the railyard that had defined the boundaries of it had recently been closed. Instead, new developments that were surprisingly upscale were moving in.

“The place was a complete mess yesterday morning” Gert said, “We had broken glass everywhere, confetti and popped balloons among all sorts of other garbage. You wouldn’t believe what turned up in the lost and found box.”

“I helped clean up after some of the parties thrown here in past, so I’ve a good idea” Hans said as he picked up the two glasses that Gert had just poured drinks into, beer for Hans and Coca-Cola for Manny. Gert was still around though he had a pension and sufficient savings to have retired years earlier. Hans had only asked him about it once. Gert had asked in reply what would he do all day? Hang around his own tavern? There was a truth in that. For Gert the tavern had always been a labor of love, even if he had been able to make a living from it. Though he was well past the age of retirement he couldn’t imagine doing anything else.

Making his way back to the table, Hans saw Manny watching the television over the bar. The Football Highlights of the past year was what was playing. He had invited his son to come here under the pretense of Gert having asked about him, which was true enough. However, Hans had wanted a chance to talk to Manny without Helene around because she was decidedly not thrilled with some of the choices that their son seemed to be making. Hans figured that having her rip Manny apart and attempt to browbeat him into doing what she wanted would probably backfire. Instead he was going to simply be honest about what was going on, try to convince Manny into seeing sense and not making any lasting decisions at this point. Easier said than done.

“For you” Hans said as he sat the drink onto the table in front of Manny.

“Thanks Pops” Manny said absently as he was mostly focused on what was playing on the television.

They sat in silence for a few minutes as Hans thought about how best to talk to Manny.

“You watched all these games over the year” Hans said, “You already know how it ends.”

As soon as he said, Hans became aware of how that figured in with this conversation. He was all too aware of how it often ended having seen it play out far too many times over the previous years. Manny wasn’t. Which was why it was needed.

“I know” Manny said, “But still.”

It was an old complaint of Helene’s. A television being on tended to draw all the eyes in the room.

“Gert!” Hans yelled, “Put it on a soap opera or something, I’m trying to talk to the boy.”

The other patrons in the bar laughed as Gert grabbed a broomstick from behind the bar and used it to change channels on the television. They didn’t seem to mind too much so long as it was all a lark. There were some things in this neighborhood would probably never change. What came on was a news program that was currently featuring the day’s weather.

“I was watching that” Manny said with as much indignation as he could muster. He was battling against a lifetime of knowing that when his father chose to talk, ignoring him was not an option. Helene tended to yell a lot, both Manny and Ina had learned to generally tune her out before they had finished out their first decade. Hans had taken a different approach that seemed to work better.

“Gerta wanted you to have this” Hans said, handing Manny a photograph of him standing with Suse Rosa from a few weeks earlier as they had been leaving for the Grand Ballroom in the Hohenzollern Palace from an envelope that he’d had in his pocket. “Mind telling me what has been going on?”

“Suse’s mother asked me through Ma if I would escort her to that” Manny said, “She thinks that we’ve been dating or something.”

“Have you?” Hans asked, “Because it is the, or something, that you mentioned that is of concern.”

And watched as Manny struggled to figure out how to explain this without trying to bullshit him. Something Manny knew simply didn’t work.

The truth was that Magdalena Foerstner had spotted Manny and Suse in the Main Branch of the Berlin Library. Leni had thought that it was cute to watch them because it was obvious to her that Suse had the material down and she was trying to pound it into Manny’s head.

“If you and Suse have been experimenting as young people tend to do, then you had best hope that her father doesn’t find out” Hans said, “While Gerta might not like it, she would probably be grudgingly tolerant so long as there were no consequences. Kurt on the other hand… If he finds out you’ve been messing with his little girl, you’re screwed. He’ll have the entire 5th Panzer Brigade drive over you for that.”

Manny was sputtering, trying to come up with a coherent answer.

“It isn’t like that” Manny blurted out.

“What is it then?” Hans asked, knowing that he had Manny exactly where he wanted him.

As he waited for Manny to either shit or get off the pot, he glanced at the television. The news story was about how much of a surprise it had been to learn of the role that Walter Horst had played in the Spring Revolution decades earlier. That had been mentioned a few times during the eulogies at Horst’s funeral a few days earlier. They must not have seen the movie when it showed how he had ended up in charge when von Wolvogle and the other Officers went to go take a piss that day.

One man choosing to do the right thing when given the choice. Was that really so hard to believe?

Just a few years after that, the Heer and other armed forces had adopted what were known as Spanish Rules regarding conduct around civilians and in foreign countries. Recruits were still required to memorize an updated version. That had probably been where that had all started.
 
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