Stupid Luck and Happenstance, Thread II

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  1. Peabody-Martini Well-Known Member

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    It was more of a case that they were not thinking. Instead, they have spent more than 20 years throwing out accusations that the individual they were targeting was violent, dishonest and sexually promiscuous. Having come to believe their own copy, they failed to ask a very key question.

    If you don't believe that happens in real life, I would direct you to the social media accounts of most long standing politicians.
     
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  2. ejpsan Well-Known Member

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    The ways that countries celebrate milestones events tells us a lot how countries see themselves and how they present themselves to the rest of the world.
    A case in point the way the British celebrated the Diamond Jubilee of Queen Victoria in 1897 as compared to the way the British celebrated the Diamond Jubilee of Queen Elizabeth II in 2012, the first was celebrated by an Empire at its greatest while the second was by a Commonwealth.
    Another case is when the United States celebrated the Bicentennial of the Declaration of Independence in 1976, the United states was dispirited by the end of the Vietnam War, the Energy Crisis, and other things that made the American people not very interested in celebrating, then when the big day happened something kicked in and the theme that emerged was that the United states is throwing itself a party and everyone is invited.
    We have seen from the first timeline how Germany celebrated the end of the First World War with parades and parties in the streets and later on with the passage of time they became more somber.
    Since the end of the second World War we have not seen anything to celebrate the massive and almost impossible victories over the Soviet Union and Japan and have not raised any monuments to itself.
    With that in mind from what little information that has been given I could see the Twentieth Anniversary of the Second World War being celebrated as a time when Germany had a common cause, an unity of purpose where everyone from the common people to the Imperial Family made shared sacrifices and out of that a new Germany emerged.
    I think that the new television tower will be seen as a symbol of that new Germany as it points to its future.
     
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    Chapter One Thousand Four Hundred Fifty-Three


    18th June 1961

    Over the Mid-Atlantic

    Gloria was going home after spending the last several weeks away. She had started and stopped writing a letter to Jonny that explained what was going on. She had given up on that until she got back to New York and had entirely too much on her mind after what she had witnessed in Berlin.

    The first thing she had noticed was that with the twentieth anniversary for the start of the Second World War was coming up in a month. The response that Gloria had seen was surprisingly subdued. It was like if that particular war was something that the people of Germany saw as having been an obligation and they weighed any lingering sense of triumph against the very real cost that they had paid as a country. It had been a total war that had radically changed their society in ways that they were still trying to come to terms. Gloria wondered if that had something to with the reaction.

    The second thing was that it had taken a bit of digging on her part, but she had figured out what the real reasons behind the lawsuit that had drawn her in as well.

    It was really all about Louis Ferdinand.

    When the German Kaiser had proposed changing how his successor would be selected and he had inadvertently created a power struggle in Berlin in the process. It was because if Louis followed through with his intention to retire in 1971 and there was really a Königswahl were every State in the Empire would have a vote for his successor then the City-State of Berlin would have an Elector for the first time in centuries. It would effectively turn the City into a very large, powerful Principality and it was an open question as to who the “Prince-Elector” would be. Someone, in a sudden burst of clarity, had realized that no matter who the candidate was, they would almost inevitably be someone who had the backing of some of the key organizations and individuals within the city itself. The Order of Louise was well positioned to be one of those key organizations.

    That was why certain right-wing groups had gone after Kat in the way that they had. They were trying to lay the groundwork for denying her the role of playing kingmaker to the person from Berlin who would quite literally be The Kingmaker. Gloria knew that the group of mostly old men in question were a bunch of dinosaurs ready for extinction and stuck in a tarpit of their own creation. It was only a matter of time for that to happen. Too bad they couldn’t see the historic nature of what was coming in the years ahead.


    Schwielowsee, Brandenburg

    Aurora had joked that she and Zella had needed to convince General von Lettow-Vorbeck to order Kiki to take a couple days off so that she could spend the weekend with them on what Zella was jokingly referring to as an adventure. What that looked like in practice was them spending the weekend on a Dutch barge that had been rented by Zella’s family. It was so that her father could escape from the world after the introduction of the BMW motorcycle that his team had designed and built on the racing circuit. It seemed that the automotive press was extremely interested in the details surrounding his new career.

    Kiki was thinking about this after she woke up in the bunk bolted to the wall of the small cabin that she shared with Zella and Aurora early in the morning with the grey light of predawn coming through the open window. She could hear the rumble of the diesel engine that propelled the barge on its leisurely cruse down the River Havel. It played a nice counterpoint to Zella’s soft snoring in the bunk below Kiki’s and a mosquito that was buzzing around. The night before they had left the pier on the River Spree after her friends had made a big show of liberating her from the museum.

    As Kiki had enjoyed a light dinner with Zella’s family, she had watched the lights of Berlin drift past. It had occurred to her then just how deeply she had buried herself in her preparations for her departure for Laupheim on top of the regular duties that she had at the museum and whatever errands the General sent her on. The General had told her to have fun and he didn’t want to see her back in the museum before Sunday evening at the earliest. Zella had told her that they could spend the weekend doing whatever they wanted the night before. Swimming, just lazing in the sun, or perhaps just catching up on her sleep on Saturday, whatever Kiki wanted. Of course, Zella said that she would need to think about doing whatever Kiki might suggest they do. Kiki had laughed at that. After everything that they had done over the years, Zella was still Zella and it was Kiki’s sincere hope that she would never change.

    That was when Kiki heard a “ribbit” and she looked over the edge of the bunk and saw a frog on the floor. It was a reminder that Zella’s little brother Walter was onboard as well. She would have thought that he would have grown out of playing pranks like this on his sister, the presence of the frog suggested that Walter hadn’t. Just then the Frog’s tongue shot out and the buzzing of the mosquito went silent. Kiki smiled as she climbed down from her bunk and picked up the frog.

    “Thank you, Herr Frog” Kiki whispered as she opened the screen and dropped the frog out, she heard a splash as the amphibian hit the water.
     
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  4. Darth_Kiryan The Númenorean Sith

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    I'd still say the practical choice is Freddy, but I get the feeling you are setting it up for Kiki.
     
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  5. A. Morgan Stranger in a Strange Land

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    Nah. Way to obvious. You’ve been around this thing about as long as I have. Always expect the unexpected. (Cue Monty Python -The Spanish Inqusition).
     
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    All hail Kaiserin Victoria of Germany?
     
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  7. Peabody-Martini Well-Known Member

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    In OTL, while Louis Ferdinand was never the Kaiser he remained the head of the House of Hohenzollern until his death in 1994. Both Friedrich Wilhelm and Michael abdicated, though that didn't stop them from suing their nephew later over their role in the family. His two oldest daughters IOTL, Marie and Kira were ineligible because the laws, or the terms of Wilhelm the II's will, never changed. Louis Junior became Heir but died as the result of an accident 1977. Louis Junior's son Georg became the head of the family in 1994.

    I only mention that because a lot can change in a decade.
     
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  8. Peabody-Martini Well-Known Member

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    Highly unlikely, but extra points for sheer irony and the idea of her Anglophobic Great-Grandfather turning over in his grave.
     
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  9. gallen95 Well-Known Member

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    Call me old fashion but I'll put my vote on Sigi!
     
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  10. ejpsan Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea what Kaiser Louis Ferdinand is going for, the Kaiser is basically a figurehead the main purpose is to be a symbol of national unity, to be the face of the Empire to the rest of the world.
    What is the purpose of changing the rules to be the Kaiser?
    There has been comparisons by others who are much more knowledgeable then me who have posted that this is the same way that lead to the demise of the Holy Roman Empire.
    So what is the end game in all off this, is it a backdoor plan to eliminate the Monarchy and become a republic?
     
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  11. holyknight Well-Known Dude that comments here and there.

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    Depends.

    Considering that his Great-Granddaughter would be everything but the OPPOSITE to the British Victoria, in beliefs and brought up and inspired by the very best German Soldier(besides his pal Wovolge) and Female in modern History...

    .....if Willy were to rise of his tomb to see that, odds are that he would die satisfied again laughing his ass off to the very epic middle finger to said British ancestor that would be the Empress Viktoria I of Germany
     
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    Except that Wilhelm adored Victoria.
     
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  13. holyknight Well-Known Dude that comments here and there.

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    Whoops.
     
  14. Istariol Well-Known Member

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    Willy2 adored Queen Victoria.
    Willy2 had a love/hate relationship with Victoria Princess of GB/Victoria wife of his father.

    So which Victoria do you mean?!
     
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    Chapter One Thousand Four Hundred Fifty-Four


    24th July 1961

    In transit, rural Württemberg

    It was dark in the back of the lorry with the canvas cover over the bed that Kiki was sitting in with a dozen others. It was hardly a surprise that she was the only girl. And she wasn’t drawing attention to herself for reasons that were too obvious to mention. She could hear the ribald talk that the men engaged in when they knew that no one would call them on it. It was in the middle of the night and Kiki had no idea what time it even was. All she knew was that it was very late, to the point of it being early. Every once in a while, the lorry went around a turn and she caught a glimpse of a half dozen other lorries like the one she was riding in out the open back. She was aware that there were an equal number ahead of one that she was riding in. The only possessions she had brought were what had fit inside the rucksack by her feet and she had strongly been encouraged to bring as little as possible. The air blowing in smelled of forest that was in the midst of the height of summer.

    “You can be true to yourself without radically changing who you are. Has it ever occurred to you that most of the people you are trying to gain the approval of don’t care if you continue to give until you have nothing left?”

    That was the last thing that Zella had told Kiki before she had left Berlin and those words had been biting. In the last weeks before she had left Berlin, Zella’s frustration with her had grown more evident with every change that Kiki had made. Doctor Berg had urged her to be patient with Zella, telling her that she was scared about what would happen to a dear friend. Since they had been children, Zella had been Kiki’s protector and she was at a loss about what to do over what Kiki was doing next.

    Then when Kiki had cut her hair, Zella had really blown her stack. It had been a practical consideration. Kiki had realized that over the next several months she probably wouldn’t have the time or energy to take care of it properly and the result would only be a tangled mess. The long curls that had been a large part of Kiki’s appearance since she had been an infant were gone, replaced by her hair only being a few centimeters in length. The most embarrassing part had not involved Zella, instead it had come when Suga had looked her and had told Kiki that she shouldn’t be sad, because it would grow back eventually.

    Zella had continued to react as if Kiki were foolishly giving up her identity and was unlikely to ever gain anything from doing so. That was what had prompted her to make that biting remark when they had parted just the day before. Kiki’s doubts had done nothing but multiply on the train ride and now in the lorry. Even as she had told herself that none of this was any of Zella’s business, one thought kept rolling around in the back of her mind.

    What if Zella was right?

    It reminded her of the photograph that Kiki had in one of the pockets of her flak vest. Taken on the barge just a month ago. It was of Kiki, Zella and Aurora sitting on lounge chairs that were on the deck. Everyone had been so happy at the time and now that seemed very remote.

    “What is your deal?” Kiki heard a voice ask her. She was seated in the lorry with her arms around her knees with her back against the cab while leaning on the canvas wall.

    “Leave the boy alone” Another voice said, “He’s been quiet since we left the train depot, not one flap his gums like the rest of you lot.”

    The second voice belonged to a Noncom who had been tasked with keeping them in line until they got to Laupheim after arriving by train in Ulm. In the dim light, it was understandable as to why he had made the mistake that he had. She was wearing the field uniform of the entire military in the brown/gray water splinter pattern and had a flak vest over that. It was completely unrevealing. When combined with the blue Medical Service beret, the epaulettes of a Fähnrich on the shoulder straps and the reflection of her glasses they tended to “see” what they expected. It this case, the Noncom thought that she was a beardless teenager. Kiki’s hope was that he wouldn’t be too sore when he, along with the rest of the men on this lorry, saw her in good light.

    Just as she had that thought, the lorry rolled through an open gate and into blue-white floodlights.

    “Everyone out!” The Noncom yelled as the lorry stopped and Kiki grabbed her rucksack before following the others out of the lorry. Everyone here had already gone through basic training, so no effort was made to yell at them. Just falling in for rollcall and barracks assignment was disorientating. Standing under the flood lights and being tired the long journey from Berlin it felt like if they were in a fog.

    Finally, they got to her and Kiki couldn’t believe that she had forgotten one of the details that she had been warned about beforehand. “Fähnrich Fischer, you’re assigned to the women’s barracks and you will be shown to your quarters” An unfamiliar Noncom said, “I don’t think I need to remind you that you will be expected to adhere to our standards even if by necessity your quarters are separate.”

    “No…” Kiki paused to see what rank he held, “…Spear.”

    “Good” The Spear said before he moved on.

    Kiki could hear the sound of the men surrounding her talking in low voices to each other while trying not to be noticed. Word about her gender spreading around was inevitable, but this was a bit faster than she would have liked.
     
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  16. EWilanO Well-Known Member

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    Yep, the Spear has spoken. (the "Spear" in German "Spieß" is the most senior non-com in a company, generally recognizable in the OTL Bundeswehr due to a golden cord around his right shoulder).

    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kompaniefeldwebel

    A Spear is the equivalent of a Company Sergeant Major or a First Sergeant.
     
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  17. Darth_Kiryan The Númenorean Sith

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    More broken noses and arms incoming from men trying to be "aggressive/smart"?

    Is that what that means?

    637 pages, 1454 chapters over two stories and I now know what "Spear" means....
     
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  18. ejpsan Well-Known Member

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    This time around basically everybody should know that Kiki is a princess and will be given instructions on how to treat and address her properly (rank and Fischer).
    Also they should understand what happened when Kiki went through initial training and was molested (broken bones for miscreant and the wrath of the Tigeress of Pankow), which is why now there is mandatory sexual harassment training that has to be done every six months to a year all through the military.
    Maybe when Kiki hair grows back out it could become less curly and more straight, that is what happened to me, I used to have very curly hair and I had to get it cut very short (nephew gave me head lice and my father just sheared my head because "that is what they did back in his days") and it came back more straight with waves.
     
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  19. Darth_Kiryan The Númenorean Sith

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    Stop contradicting me with logic.

    :coldsweat::coldsweat::coldsweat:XDXD
     
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    We are not dealing with green recruits this time around but with highly motivated soldiers and officers who want to advance professionally and they know or should know by now what kind of behavior gets them an one way ticket to the stockade, followed by their new job as a restroom attendant.
     
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