StuG III with L70?

Is it actually possible for the StuG III to mount the L70 gun?

There was a plan for the StuG III to mount a 7.5cm L/70, the StuG III Ausf. H:
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Impossible. The structure of the Pz III can't support the L70 cannon. Maybe the Stug IV can be mounted with a L70 (like the Jagdpanzer IV L70).
 
Impossible. The structure of the Pz III can't support the L70 cannon. Maybe the Stug IV can be mounted with a L70 (like the Jagdpanzer IV L70).

Structure is fine, it's just armor plate. It will be fine as long as you aren't direct mounting the cannon, without the recoil assembly

I'd be worried about snapping torsion bars on the front stations

But for the Mk III chassis, I'd go radical, like the 17 pdr Archer TD conversion

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But enclose the fighting compartment.
 

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Similar, but I like the idea of the engine in front of the crew compartment rather than a mid engine conversion, balancing would be better, and really needs overhead protection against artillery shrapnel and fighter bomber machine guns
What you're describing is what I am suggesting. A frontal engine, not mid, and fully enclosed fighting compartment. I agree that's the way to go
 
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I was thinking of something with a lower profile. The Nashorn can be seen from miles no way to mount a 88 lower?
Nope, that was the best they could do. The Nashorn was not visible from miles away though and it could kill at 3-4km, well outside the range of their opponents ability to direct fire back at them (though artillery is a problem due to the open top, a problem the Super Marder wouldn't have).
 
Nope, that was the best they could do. The Nashorn was not visible from miles away though and it could kill at 3-4km, well outside the range of their opponents ability to direct fire back at them (though artillery is a problem due to the open top, a problem the Super Marder wouldn't have).

How soon can a Jagpanther or Elephant be built? I know they require ether the Panther or Tiger but they were fully armored with 88's.
 

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The Elephant or Ferdinand tank was ready by 43, they were used at Kursk.
BTW nice design. :cool::D
Thanks, picked it up somewhere :p
Yeah I read Jagdtiger and Jagdpanther, didn't register the Elefant. But the Elefant was a mechanical mess and had inferior mobility to the Nashorn, while only being built to use up the rejected Porsche Tiger chassis prototypes.

Frankly they should have built a lot more Nashorns, but they were limited by Pz III/IV chassis availablility, while the Marder IV would use existing Pz III chassis and be probably easier to make than even the StuG III.
 
Thanks, picked it up somewhere :p
Yeah I read Jagdtiger and Jagdpanther, didn't register the Elefant. But the Elefant was a mechanical mess and had inferior mobility to the Nashorn, while only being built to use up the rejected Porsche Tiger chassis prototypes.

Frankly they should have built a lot more Nashorns, but they were limited by Pz III/IV chassis availablility, while the Marder IV would use existing Pz III chassis and be probably easier to make than even the StuG III.
I once did a pic of an Elephant tank with a Panther turret in the rear, I thought it would be a better option than the OTL Panther or Elephant were, trying to make the best of two unreliable AFVs.
 

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I once did a pic of an Elephant tank with a Panther turret in the rear, I thought it would be a better option than the OTL Panther or Elephant were, trying to make the best of two unreliable AFVs.
The problem with the Elefant wasn't the gun, it was the chassis itself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elefant#Drive
The two Porsche air cooled engines in each vehicle were replaced by two 300 PS (296 hp; 221 kW) Maybach HL 120 TRM engines. The engines drove a single Siemens-Schuckert 500 VA generator, which powered two Siemens 230 kW (312.7 PS) output-apiece electric motors, one each connected to each of the rear sprockets. The electric motors also acted as the vehicle's steering unit. This "petrol-electrical" drive delivered 0.11 km/l (909 litres/100 km) off road and 0.15 km/l (667 litres/100 km) on road at a maximum speed of 10 km/h off road and 30 km/h on road. In addition to this high fuel consumption and poor performance, the vehicle was also maintenance-intensive; the sprockets needed to be changed every 500 km. Porsche had experience of this form of petrol-electric transmission extending back to 1901, when he designed a car that used it.


Suspension for the "slack track" equipped Elefant consisted of six twin bogies (three per side) with longitudinal torsion bars, without any overlapping wheels or return rollers. What appears to be two sets of drive sprockets, at either end of the vehicle per side, actually comprises a front sprocket that engaged the track with a drum brake unit built into its hub to act as the track brake, with the electric drive motor at the rear on each side, powering the track's rear drive sprocket.
 
mid-1944 filler

Selbstfahrlafette auf VK3001(H) "Sturer Emil"

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with 128mm cannon was ready in March 1942, used the Henschel 32 ton medium tank prototype chassis that program was abandoned for a heavier tank that became the Tiger.

Going with a lighter 88/L71 would allow some armor, though not up to Ferdinand class.
 
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