Stirling's Lords of Creation series

Hnau

Banned
There have probably been many here who have read The Sky People. It was excellent! I really like the concept and its a fun story. I just wish there was a little more explaining the timeline: for some reason, I enjoy reading the excerpts about the background and history more than the action! Anyway, I was just reading through the samples of S.M. Stirling's website of the next book in the series, In the Courts of the Crimson Kings. Looks better than Sky People and I am really looking forward to it. If you go to the 6th sample, there is even a reference to Harry Turtledove and John Birmingham serving as USASF (US Aerospace Force?) security guards in the Smithsonian Museum! I thought it was so awesome I had to post it here.

Anyway, I'm kind of mad that this isn't a trilogy. Is Stirling really going to wrap it up that quickly?
 

NapoleonXIV

Banned
Hnau said:
There have probably been many here who have read The Sky People. It was excellent! I really like the concept and its a fun story. I just wish there was a little more explaining the timeline: for some reason, I enjoy reading the excerpts about the background and history more than the action! Anyway, I was just reading through the samples of S.M. Stirling's website of the next book in the series, In the Courts of the Crimson Kings. Looks better than Sky People and I am really looking forward to it. If you go to the 6th sample, there is even a reference to Harry Turtledove and John Birmingham serving as USASF (US Aerospace Force?) security guards in the Smithsonian Museum! I thought it was so awesome I had to post it here.

Anyway, I'm kind of mad that this isn't a trilogy. Is Stirling really going to wrap it up that quickly?
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I'm beginning to love-hate the man. He writes such DAMNED good stories besides that Dies the Fire crap, but that seems his main interest now. Hopefully, it's approaching the end, because he seems to be trying to Tie It All Together to Make the Point and after he fails at that he'll drop it like he did the Draka.:D
 

Colin Francis

First up, I reckon that the Dies the Fire series is amazingly good, but that's just opinion.

Second thing is that if you check out www.smstirling.com you'll see that the series will be continuing into the forseeable future. I don't think Stirling will be producing any other stories in years and years. Take a look at his yahoo discussion threads also, he often drops in and makes posts.
 
Electric Monk

Electric Monk

Oh I just loved The Sky People. Sure the AH part was a little on the iffy side and plenty of nitpicks to be had if you want, but the book was just classic fun—and In Courts Of The Crimson King looks even better.

As for Dies The Fire… sigh. It's so stupid, so inconsistent, and so poorly done it's utterly appalling. I couldn't make it through the first book and every time I see a new one come out I just kinda sigh and wish that he wrote a sequel to Peshwar Lancers or a new one-off AH.

He's a good writer with interesting (though somewhat implausible) AH ideas and I can't believe he's blown what? 3? 4? books on Dies The Fire with more coming.

That said I can't wait for In Courts Of The Crimson King or any non-Dies The Fire he might write. Even with the Turtledove driven increase in published AH there just isn't that much of it around.
 

RealityBYTES

I wouldn't mind seeing another novel set in the Draka Universe, but I also know that hell will probably freeze over first.

RealityBYTES :D
 

drakkon

Electric Monk said:
He's a good writer with interesting (though somewhat implausible) AH ideas and I can't believe he's blown what? 3? 4? books on Dies The Fire with more coming.
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Don't forget, publishing is a buyer's market. Stirling, like all authors, dosen't just get to write whatever he wants. He must take into account what his publisher wants also.

Dies the Fire is by far the most successfull series Stirling has written. Thats why you will see book after book in that universe. Its not just what Stirling wants to write, but also what his publisher feels will sell.
 

NapoleonXIV

Banned
Electric Monk said:
Oh I just loved The Sky People. Sure the AH part was a little on the iffy side and plenty of nitpicks to be had if you want, but the book was just classic fun—and In Courts Of The Crimson King looks even better.

As for Dies The Fire… sigh. It's so stupid, so inconsistent, and so poorly done it's utterly appalling. I couldn't make it through the first book and every time I see a new one come out I just kinda sigh and wish that he wrote a sequel to Peshwar Lancers or a new one-off AH.

He's a good writer with interesting (though somewhat implausible) AH ideas and I can't believe he's blown what? 3? 4? books on Dies The Fire with more coming.

That said I can't wait for In Courts Of The Crimson King or any non-Dies The Fire he might write. Even with the Turtledove driven increase in published AH there just isn't that much of it around.
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As he once rather tellingly riposted me in this very forum when I made that very point; the public disagrees, DtF is his best seller and his interest in it is therefore pure bread and breakfast jam. Wouldn't it be nice if writers didn't have to make a living or have any opinions of their own but could simply write wholly and exclusively what we wanted?
 

Ivan Druzhkov

Well, even though I have my doubts that even the discovery of a habitable Venus and Mars could derail the Cold War, I thought The Sky People was a nice piece of classic SF pulp. Still, I'm not sure if I'm going to be getting the sequel.
 

zoomar

I rather liked the it and intend to read the Mars one too. As someone who was a child in the 1950's when we didn't yet know Mars and Venus were uninhabitable, I really enjoyed the throwback nostalgia. There really is a lot of interesting speculation Sterling could explore with habitable planets with humans on them. I hope he does.

Turtledove, back when he could still write, put out a single novel with a similar concept (in his case a bigger, wetter planet instead of mars in OTL with intellegint inhabitants - non human). It also had a cold war overlay. I don't remember the name.
 

David bar Elias

zoomar said:
I rather liked the it and intend to read the Mars one too. As someone who was a child in the 1950's when we didn't yet know Mars and Venus were uninhabitable, I really enjoyed the throwback nostalgia. There really is a lot of interesting speculation Sterling could explore with habitable planets with humans on them. I hope he does.

Turtledove, back when he could still write, put out a single novel with a similar concept (in his case a bigger, wetter planet instead of mars in OTL with intellegint inhabitants - non human). It also had a cold war overlay. I don't remember the name.
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You're thinking of A World of Difference. ;)
 
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