State to State Embassies?

At the inception of the U.S. there was (and to a lesser degree still is) a heavy emphasis on the states' individual sovereignty.

Does anyone know if there was ever a proposal for State Embassies? For example, a Pennsylvania Embassy in Virginia and so forth.

If not, does anyone have any ideas on how this could happen, ideas for any famous State Ambassadors throughout history and the scenarios with which they'll be faced, and the effects of State to State Embassies?
 
At the inception of the U.S. there was (and to a lesser degree still is) a heavy emphasis on the states' individual sovereignty.

Does anyone know if there was ever a proposal for State Embassies? For example, a Pennsylvania Embassy in Virginia and so forth.

If not, does anyone have any ideas on how this could happen, ideas for any famous State Ambassadors throughout history and the scenarios with which they'll be faced, and the effects of State to State Embassies?

you could have "general delegations" that consist of a representative and his staff that promote trade and help coordonate matters of common interests.

Its doubtful, unless the states have much more sovereignty, that you would need an actual embassy, there is no need for visas and citizen representations so thats already a big chunk of his job out.
 
you could have "general delegations" that consist of a representative and his staff that promote trade and help coordonate matters of common interests.

Its doubtful, unless the states have much more sovereignty, that you would need an actual embassy, there is no need for visas and citizen representations so thats already a big chunk of his job out.

Yeah, that makes sense - although I didn't want to increase the preexisting state sovereignty much if at all.

I thought more for trade relations, situations involving criminal extraditions, joint state militia operations pre-civil war of course, they would come in useful during the lead-up to the civil war as well methinks.
 
Also, I'm not sure if visas, etc. were as important (or existent) in the late 18th century (correct me if I'm wrong), and therefore Ambassadors were more concerned with keeping up positive relations with the nation or state in which they were positioned. Talking out disputes before they escalated, that sort of thing.

They also may have had the opportunity to make things worse. Interstate skirmishes might have been more common in this scenario.
 
At the inception of the U.S. there was (and to a lesser degree still is) a heavy emphasis on the states' individual sovereignty.

Does anyone know if there was ever a proposal for State Embassies? For example, a Pennsylvania Embassy in Virginia and so forth.

If not, does anyone have any ideas on how this could happen, ideas for any famous State Ambassadors throughout history and the scenarios with which they'll be faced, and the effects of State to State Embassies?
The constitution ptretty clearly reserves for the federal government most of the things embassies are supposed to do.

So it would be tough to do this after the constitution is ratified. Under the AoC, however, it might be rather more likely.
 

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Does anyone know if there was ever a proposal for State Embassies? For example, a Pennsylvania Embassy in Virginia and so forth.

It seems kinda ridiculous since it's something that really could be done by say, Senators Staffs or Honorary Consuls.

That said, the State of Florida does have an Embassy in DC near Capitol Hill, in Florida House. It's run by a Non-profit that's funded by Donations from Floridians and mostly exists as a tourism thing (for Floridians in DC and getting people to visit Florida) and welcome center, with some facilities for people in DC on business. So yes, one exists, kinda.

The Orange Juice is actually the good stuff too.
 
Also, I'm not sure if visas, etc. were as important (or existent) in the late 18th century (correct me if I'm wrong), and therefore Ambassadors were more concerned with keeping up positive relations with the nation or state in which they were positioned. Talking out disputes before they escalated, that sort of thing.

In my "Created Equal" I have something like that because of the unique position of Louisiana - the Territory, purchased under Adams (who flips terms with Jefferson), has no slavery allowed, whereas Mississippi does. So, after a number of disagreements, the large balck population in free New Orleans pretty much requires Governor Burr to establish one across the river to address a number of concerns.

However, while it's implied that this happens in a few other states because several others do pass gradual emancipation, it's more to address a particular set of concerns - escaped slaves, kidnapping of free blacks, etc. - which ends after the War Between the States and the gradual end of slavery by 1850. (Not Civil War - if you haven't read, a variety of issues lead to several Southern states going to war in a manner similar to the Ohio/Michigan thign in 1837)

So, it's plausible to have some representatitive to another state int hat scenario, I think. The big question is, would it be possible for there to be enough issues besides that to the present day so that the Federal government stays out of it?

One thing I think would put a crimp in that is communication. It's easy to understand how local squabbles between ATL states early would be best handled that way, because by the time word gets to D.C., everything can be settled. However, once the telegraph and especially transportation of people between states become widespread, there wouldn't be as much need since D.C. could handle things much more quickly since tjhey'd learn about them much more quickly.

So, the trick would be to create that mindset of staing out of states' affairs even after technology makes it easier for the Federal government to become involved.
 

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Having it as a state thing to deal with extradition for state crimes, co-ordinating small-scale interstate projects (like Bridges, dredging, etc) and other petty issues as they crop up might be enough.
Said system of liaisons and ambassadors might expand overseas a bit, with say Florida and Louisiana sending Liaisons to the Bahamas, Cuba et cetera, to deal with headaches developing from Salvage law, small projects, trade promotion, and minor things like that on their own while still nominally subservient to the Foreign Policy of the United States as a whole. They could also serve as Official US Consulates for more out of the way places where the US as a whole might not have a stake in things worth sending an Embassy but one or two states do.
 
Interestingly some Austrailian states and I think Canadian Provinces have a person called the 'Agent General' at least in London
 
Did Bavaria have embasies under the Kaiser?
The only one I know of was the Bavarian ambassador at the Holy See - that was one of the reserve rights Bavaria was granted when joining the Empire.
Even today, German states have Ländervertretungen (State rep offices) in the capital for liaising with the Federal institutions; I don't know whether these already existed in Imperial times. I've never heard of the German States having embassies with one another after the foundation of the German Empire.
Fun end note - in Bonn (the former capital) there's a pub called Bayerische Botschaft ("Bavarian Embassy"), specialising in Bavarian food and beer.
 
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I wish these embassies existed, that way I could go picket the Californians and demand that they Free Jefferson!
 
Having twelve to forty-nine to sixty-something embassies in a state's capital could make an interesting impact on a city's cultural-economic development.
 
Interestingly some Austrailian states and I think Canadian Provinces have a person called the 'Agent General' at least in London

Quebec has general delegations but to my knowledge, only in other countries:

http://www.gouv.qc.ca/portail/quebec/international/general/?lang=en

Lower canada and other provinces did have agent generals but they were only to serve in other countries, they weren't sent to other provinces. As far as I know, there were no person designated as *the* representative of a province, just some liaison officers for various services on a permanent or ad hoc basis.
 
It seems kinda ridiculous since it's something that really could be done by say, Senators Staffs or Honorary Consuls.

That said, the State of Florida does have an Embassy in DC near Capitol Hill, in Florida House. It's run by a Non-profit that's funded by Donations from Floridians and mostly exists as a tourism thing (for Floridians in DC and getting people to visit Florida) and welcome center, with some facilities for people in DC on business. So yes, one exists, kinda.

The Orange Juice is actually the good stuff too.

Some of the Native American tribal governments have embassies in Minneapolis.
 
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