State of medicine in a victorious Reich?

Wendigo

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In an AANW TL scenario where the Reich has occupied Europe up to the Urals and stalemated Britain/America, what would be the state of medicine/medical research, particularly that of human experimentation?

Is it correct to assume that with tens of millions of Slavs designated for death and enslavement there would be a virtually inexhaustible supply of helpless subjects for the Reich to use in weapons testing, experiments, drug trials etc?

Would the Reich be able to make advances in medicine superior to that of the US/British due to their lack of morals and their willingness to test and experiment on humans?

How bad/nasty could things get?

Would Nazi medical research grow in scope and scale to be comparable to Japan's horrific and mind numbingly evil Unit 731 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731) if not worse?

Link to Wiki article about Nazi experimentation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_human_experimentation
 
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Would the Reich be able to make advances in medicine superior to that of the US/British due to their lack of morals and their willingness to test and experiment on humans?

How bad/nasty could things get?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_human_experimentation

Well, even without nazi, there's many instance of horrible human experimentation. So,in a nazi victory TL, with their complete disregard of morality and ethics, I don't even want to imagine it:confounded:


But the interesting thing about superior medicine they might produce is, as we know, the nazis tended to kill of people suffering from crippling, uncurable illness. Will this factor could worsen the quality of their med (because they kill, instead of trying to cure thesick) or the endless human experimentation they do at the same time might somehow compensate it?
 
OTL the overwhelming majority of the medical experiments the Nazis did were poorly designed and run by hacks, so even putting aside the gross immorality of what was done very little useful data came out of these experiments. Longer term the Nazi obsession with race/eugenics is going to lead them astray in many ways, even now the sorts of things that eugenics want to breed for like intelligence, creativity, and so forth are simply not identified and may never be in terms of where they are in our DNA. It is only in the case of fairly gross genetic defects that affect things like intelligence where we have an idea of the specific DNA issue. I would expect that the Germans would work even before DNA is identified as the key genetic component (this was early 1950s for Watson & Crick) to identify obvious genetic defects and probably work to develop prenatal tests so that "inferior" fetuses can be aborted.

The problem with scenarios where you have German "superscience" in a Nazi victory is that German universities were being wrecked in many ways. Not just the elimination of Jewish and politically unreliable faculty, but also the necessity to teach to conform to Nazi ideology (no Jewish physics for example), combined to wreak havoc with German university teaching. The willingness to use human subjects for drug trials, including pregnant women, could prevent some problems like the thalidomide disaster, but overall I don't expect German medicine in a Nazi victory would be accelerated in any way, and could in fact lag.
 
1) what @sloreck said
2) the Nazis would likely decide what was 'good' medicine by who was connected to whom, and by party loyalty. 'Jewish Medicine' (starting with psychology and going from there) would be despised as 'Jewish Physics' was. You'd likely have as big a disaster as Stalin had with Lysenkoism in agriculture.
3) and that all presupposes that the Nazis can win the war, which is ... remarkably unlikely.
 
very little useful data came out of these experiments.

"Oh shit Hans! People do die when you inject them with bleach!"

But in all likelihood I can see Nazi "science" being more grossly inhumane and fruitless experiments that don't do much to actually advance anything
 
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