ST WI: Gene Roddenberry lives longer

Hades

How would Star Trek have changed if Gene Roddenberry was in better health (Let's say he lived to 2002-4), considering that he was always trying to preserve his TOS ideal due to his poor health?
 
Tom Colton

Tom Colton

Star Trek VI would have lost a lot of its nuance, given he was actually secretly furious at how militaristic Meyer and co. had made it. In OTL he sent a list of changes he wanted to see made shortly before he died, which his lawyer/agent didn't pass along, leading to the version that we see today.

And you're letting Gene live to see S1/S2 Enterprise?? You're a cruel man indeed. :p
 

Hades

Gene's drive for a "utopian" ST was largely due to him dying, and I'm sure that had he been healthier, he'd be a lot more mellow (recognising that a new cohort of writers have come to the fore), and who's to say that Enterprise wouldn't be butterflied? :)
 

pompejus

Star Trek was better without Gene. TNG became a lot better series when Gene got less involved. The same is true of the movie series. Star Trek needs Gene Roddenberrys optimism, but it does not need Gene Roddenberry.
 

JVM

Enterprise is absolutely butterflied away. There's nothing else I feel more certain of here.

As for Trek 6, didn't he do the same thing with 2, 3, 4 and 5 and get mostly ignored?
 

Rich Mullins

Deep Space 9 would be really different. There would be no Dominion War for certain. Admiral Leyton would never attempt a coup or if he did he would turn out to be an alien, perhaps a Founder. The Klingons might not have returned to their old ways. Star Trek: First Contact might have been different, though there are some parts of it I could see Roddenberry liking. Voyager and Enterprise would be butterflied away. There might have been a Captain Sulu series. Then again, I have no clue if Roddenberry would have supported one or not. If Earth: Final Conflict and Andromeda were even made, they would have been different, potentially even existing within the same universe as each other and possibly even that of the Star Trek series.
 

Craigo

Star Trek would be much worse, as most of what we remember positively about the franchise during his lifetime should be credited to other people.
 

Alonna

I doubt it would have much affect on the films. Roddenberry was basically fired from the film franchise after the first film did poorly. The films were still made regardless of how much he railed against them.
 
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