ST: Thread for the discussion and elaboration of ST ideas and POD's

Regarding the Qo'NoS atmosphere issue, I am not sure if it was shown in TNG or DS9, but in Star Trek Armada, Qo'NoS is a dusty brown planet. In Starfleet Command (set prior to the Praxis incident) it is a blue-green fairly earth-like planet. To me, that would say that while the atmosphere was poisoned and such, they found some way to stabilise it enough to maintain life on the planet (at the expense of having really awful weather I guess).

What's a little bad weather to the Might of the Klingon's? :p If this is the case they probably saw it as just another way to challenge themselves on a daily basis.
 
Indeed, and I believe they have greater tolerance for crappy climatic conditions anyway due to their physiology.

Speaking of, I wonder why they decided to recon the fact that Klingons have a shorter lifespan than humans (which massssively explains their aggressive behavior. Short lifespan means they would be impulsive, quick to act rather than planning in depth etc). Now, in DS9 we have Klingons who live what, 140 odd years? (from TOS to DS9 is something like 90 years easily, and they were not spring chickens in TOS). Kind of jumped the shark a bit.
 
Indeed, and I believe they have greater tolerance for crappy climatic conditions anyway due to their physiology.

Speaking of, I wonder why they decided to recon the fact that Klingons have a shorter lifespan than humans (which massssively explains their aggressive behavior. Short lifespan means they would be impulsive, quick to act rather than planning in depth etc). Now, in DS9 we have Klingons who live what, 140 odd years? (from TOS to DS9 is something like 90 years easily, and they were not spring chickens in TOS). Kind of jumped the shark a bit.

I keep seeing that phrase over and over again since I saw that little piece of info on TV. :rolleyes:

Anyhow, TOS is probably my weakest series on what I know. So your saying that in TOS Klingons only lived short live spans? :eek: What? That is a big change. Oh and between TOS and DS9 is actually around 140 years. ;)
 
Indeed, and I believe they have greater tolerance for crappy climatic conditions anyway due to their physiology.

Speaking of, I wonder why they decided to recon the fact that Klingons have a shorter lifespan than humans (which massssively explains their aggressive behavior. Short lifespan means they would be impulsive, quick to act rather than planning in depth etc). Now, in DS9 we have Klingons who live what, 140 odd years? (from TOS to DS9 is something like 90 years easily, and they were not spring chickens in TOS). Kind of jumped the shark a bit.

they probably had shorter lifespans cause their medical technology wasn't as good as the federation's, which let mccoy live until the first episode of TNG at the least
 
Well, it was mentioned in Starfleet Battles, which is non-canon now I know. I always thought it made more sense, the "light that burns brightest burns shortest" sort of ethos.

And yes, I doubt their medical facilities were great. If memory serves they also have a bit of an aversion to oh I don't know LIFE SAVING OPERATIONS. Yeah, Worf always seemed a bit slow in that episode of TNG. Hmm, have painless ST grow-back-your-spine-instantly-inside-of-you-operation or die? Oh the agony of choice.

So, yes, perhaps the shorter Klingon lifespan was down to stupidity rather than natural causes, and by DS9 they had realised that dying of an easily curable disease was not honourable and that they should probably take their meds so they can die in battle.
 
What do people think of Genesis?

Also, how long do you think a fleet of colony ships, capital ships, and a medical ship could terraform a planet? Let's say Mars?
 
Also, with another question counting the ones above please, is that about Betazoid's how much do you think they actually read minds and feel things? Remembering that Deanna was just half Betazoid.
 
Betazoids (Betzeens? Betazoidans?) are full-on telepathic; one of the "Mirror Universe" novels has the Terran Empire exterminating their entire planet because of such :(
 
Now what about terraforming?

Six minutes, one starship, and one very special torpedo can give you a habitable planet in an ATL where the Genesis device was widely used and didn't result in a planet breaking down due to protomatter being used in it.

As for normal Trek times...I dunno. Some scientists think that if we started right now we could finish terraforming the moon in a hundred years...
 
Six minutes, one starship, and one very special torpedo can give you a habitable planet in an ATL where the Genesis device was widely used and didn't result in a planet breaking down due to protomatter being used in it.

As for normal Trek times...I dunno. Some scientists think that if we started right now we could finish terraforming the moon in a hundred years...

The Moon? No. Mars? Possibly. If we pumped a few national GDPs into it (not necessarily US or China GDPs, but more like the GDP of an average European nation), we could get large areas of Mars to habitable pressures and temperatures, with liquid water, within a century.

Replacing all that CO2 with O2 would take far longer.
 
The whole six minute thing was just hyperbole by McCoy ("God did it in 6 days, now wait, here comes Genesis, we'll do it for ya in 6 minutes!"). As shown in ST III, it takes a lot longer for a Genesis-formed planet to be colonisable. (Assuming you use regular matter not proto-matter so the planet is actually stable at all)
 
I just found a script from WB inc. written by Gene himself for ST: Genesis II in all my junk. Bought it at Dark Star Comics a few years ago in YellowSprings Ohio.
 
Talking about TNG. There was that episode involving the 2 colonies that I found odd.
1 was agrarian, the other hypertech.
The weird thing was the tech planet reproduced by cloning the original 5 surviving colonists.

Since they were entirely capable of normal reproduction and only resorted to cloning to create a surviving colony why was there no sexual reproduction at all?

Indeed the cloning facility would enable every possible genetic cross. 120 mixes (5!) if just sperm + egg. So at least 120 clones, more than enough for the Enterprise crew not to suspect cloning at first site rather than a high frequency of identical twins/triplets/etc

The fact they had successful cloning at all implies it was possible for them mix chromosomes which should lead to enough genetic variety to base a surviving colony on even if the variety is small and required multiple clone births (5^23 for each pair of chromosomes)
 
What about the Q being different? What if they had evil mirror versions of themselves? Q with a goatee? :p

Actually it would sort of make sense if Q was still the same Q, it would make sort of sense if there was only one Q and he was the same in every universe, because in fact he was the same person.
 
Plus Q was kind of, well not evil but he was not good either. The whole Q continuum is essentially self serving and sees other races as only being their for their amusement. They are sort of the Elves of Star Trek (even more so than the arrogant Vulcans and the holier than thou Organians)
 
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