Sports What Ifs.

What if instead of forming their own league William Hulbert and other five National Association owners pressure the National Association to change their bylaws into something along the lines of OTL's National League?
 
Hmm Maybe he goes to another market? I can't think of where he'd go.
Would he try to go to Atlanta? It may be a possibility. Maybe they get a stadium sooner. Also, other cities he was looking at (besides Buffalo) were Cincinnati, St. Louis, and Louisville.
 
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Would he try to go to Atlanta? It may be a possibility. Maybe they get a stadium sooner. Also, other cities he was looking at (besides Buffalo) were Cincinnati, St. Louis, and Louisville.
St. Louis is interesting if they undercut the Cardinals, and Louisville is interesting because they would probably otherwise never get a team.
 
Here's a what if in regards to baseball. I had heard that in regards to the Black Sox scandal of 1919 the American league almost folded. Apparently the plan was for four teams from the American League to join and those teams IIRC were the Yankees, the Red Sox, the White Sox, and a 4th unspecified team. I swore I read this somewhere but can't remember where. I know that had there only been those 3 teams from the AL joining, they would have expanded to Detroit as it was by far that would without a baseball team.

I wonder how this would work out if such a thing happened. Would this new National League expand by the mid or late 20's? Plus might new cities get a shot?

Personally I see it like this.

1920 National League Teams

Boston Braves
Boston Red Sox
New York Yankees
New York Giants
Brooklyn Dodgers
Philadelphia Phillies
Pittsburgh Pirates
Cincinnati Reds
Detroit Tigers (expansion team)
Chicago Cubs
Chicago White Sox
St. Louis Cardinals

I don't know when they'd expand, but I do see that by 1929 you'd see expansion to these cities

Cleveland Bulldogs
Baltimore Orioles
Washington Americans
Milwaukee Brewers.



I don't know how they'd split it up but i'm sure you'd see divisions again. Maybe the old national league (renamed national division) with a new division including the new clubs. This means divisions might look like this.

National Division
New York Giants
Boston Braves
Brooklyn Dodgers
Philadelphia Phillies
Pittsburgh Pirates
St. Louis Cardinals
Chicago Cubs

American Division
Boston Red Sox
New York Yankees
Washington Americans
Baltimore Orioles
Cleveland Bulldogs
Detroit Tigers
Chicago White Sox
Milwaukee Brewers

Obviously you'd not only see more movement but expansion. For clubs that would move I could see this

Boston Braves to Buffalo New York in 1953.
New York Giants and Brooklyn Dodgers to San Francisco and Los Angeles in 1957.


1961 Expansion

American Division
Minnesota Twins
Los Angeles Angels

National Division
Houston Astros
New York Mets

More teams end up moving. One major move is the Braves, who still go to Atlanta due to the reluctance of Buffalo to build a new stadium, though later a football stadium is built for its professional football team, the Bills. Another team that leaves is the Washington Americans who head to Oakland and become the Oaks

American
Kansas City Blues
Buffalo Bisons

National
Montreal Expos
San Diego Padres

By 1970 divisions are needed. They are organized like this

American
East
New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
Baltimore Orioles
Buffalo Bisons
Cleveland Bulldogs
Detroit Tigers

West
Chicago White Sox
Milwaukee Brewers
Minnesota Twins
Kansas City Blues
Los Angeles Angels
Oakland Oaks

National
East
New York Mets
Philadelphia Phillies
Pittsburgh Pirates
Montreal Expos
Chicago Cubs
St. Louis Cardinals


West
Los Angeles Dodgers
San Fransciso Giants
San Diego Padres
Houston Astros
Atlanta Braves
Cincinnati Reds

By 1977 the AL expands adding the Seattle Mariners and the Texas Rangers.

In 1994 after the strike, the NL expands, adding the Colorado Rockies and the Florida Marlins. With new teams added, the 1995 divisional lineups look like this.

American East
New York
Boston
Baltimore
Buffalo

Central
Cleveland
Detroit
Chicago
Milwaukee
Minnesota

West
Los Angeles
Oakland
Kansas City
Texas

National

East
Montreal
New York
Philadelphia
Atlanta
Florida

Central
Cincinnati
Pittsburgh
Chicago
St. Louis

West
LA
San Francisco
San Diego
Houston
Colorado

In 1998 Final expansion is done with the Arizona Diamondbacks and the Tampa Bay Rays. The Rays are put into the American East while the Diamondbacks are put in the NL west. Houston is moved to the NL Central

Later in 2006, the Montreal Expos move to Washington and become the Nationals, while the Buffalo Bisons start playing games in Toronto at the Rogers Centre (a bit smaller, but still able to seat 35,000 for baseball, and rumors keep swarming that Buffalo will move to Toronto as their stadium built in 1970 has been seen as a bit outdated.

I know it doesn't seem too different from OTL other than Canada being left out. It's a start
 
Here's a quick one:

Kentucky beats Duke in the 1992 NCAA East Regional final (men's basketball). Four possibilities:

1. UK beats one of its archrivals, Indiana, in the Final Four and plays Michigan in the championship game (sorry Cincinnati fans; I don't see the butterflies favoring you in the other semi). UK then beats Michigan to win the national championship, coming off a two-year postseason ban. The Unforgettables are forever immortalized in college hoops history, although only one player (Jamal Mashburn) will go on to the NBA
1b. Michigan beats UK, and the Fab Five (five freshmen -- Chris Webber, Juwan Howard, Jalen Rose, Jimmy King, Ray Jackson) are forever immortalized in the history of college basketball
2. IU beats Kentucky, while Michigan beats Cincinnati in the other semi, setting up an all-Big Ten final. The Hoosiers then beat the Wolverines to win their first national title since 1987
2b. The Fab Five prevail, with the same result, and historical legacy, as in 1b

Also: Shaquille O'Neal of LSU is chosen for the Olympic Dream Team over Duke's Christian Laettner.
 
National
East
New York Mets
Philadelphia Phillies
Pittsburgh Pirates
Montreal Expos
Chicago Cubs
St. Louis Cardinals


West
Los Angeles Dodgers
San Fransciso Giants
San Diego Padres
Houston Astros
Atlanta Braves
Cincinnati Reds
Wouldn’t it make more sense to have Atlanta and Cincinnati in the East and Chicago and St. Louis in the West?
 
In 1988, the United States Football League settled with the National Football League. The terms of the settlement involved the NFL paying the USFL's legal fees, paying the nine owners (the Chicago Blitz returned for the final season in 1987) a "generous" amount in compensation in exchange for their teams not entering the league, absorbing the best players in a dispersal draft, and agreeing to give USFL markets in non-NFL cities "first consideration" for expansion sites over the next 20 years.

The NFL also purchased rights to the branding, logos and trademarks for the USFL itself and for all of its teams. That led to speculation that the NFL would revive the USFL as a spring league, speculation which was for naught when the league launched the World League of American Football with nine all-new teams. The closest the world would get to a USFL revival was the inclusion of USFL teams as alternate or expansion teams in Electronic Arts' Madden video game franchise, and through the sales of USFL merchandise on the NFL's website.

In 2017, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell announced the NFL would "honor" the USFL the following season, on the 30th anniversary of the settlement, by having most of its teams adopt the branding of the USFL teams that played in or near their markets. Uniforms, helmets, coaches and team apparel, and on-field and in-stadium team identifications would be adjusted to reflect the USFL brand. Even the NFL logo would change, to look like the red, white and blue USFL logo (while spelling out NFL).

The following teams were designated to “switch brands” during specific games:

* Arizona Cardinals = Arizona Wranglers
* Atlanta Falcons = Birmingham Stallions
* Baltimore Ravens = Baltimore Stars
* Chicago Bears = Chicago Blitz
* Dallas Cowboys = San Antonio Gunslingers
* Denver Broncos = Denver Gold
* Detroit Lions = Michigan Panthers
* Houston Texans = Houston Gamblers
* Jacksonville Jaguars = Jacksonville Bulls
* Kansas City Chiefs = Oklahoma/Arizona Outlaws
* Los Angeles Rams = Los Angeles Express
* Miami Dolphins = Orlando Renegades
* New England Patriots = Boston Breakers
* New Orleans Saints = New Orleans Breakers
* New York Giants = New Jersey Generals
* Oakland Raiders = Oakland Invaders
* Philadelphia Eagles = Philadelphia Stars
* Pittsburgh Steelers = Pittsburgh Maulers
* Seattle Seahawks = Portland Breakers
* Tampa Bay Buccaneers = Tampa Bay Bandits
* Tennessee Titans = Memphis Showboats
* Washington Redskins = Washington Federals

Week 12 was designated as “USFL Week”, the week where all teams would play under their USFL branding. Teams playing on the road would also adopt those identities for one home game.

There also was the issue of the Detroit Lions/Michigan Panthers and the Carolina Panthers. The names were the same, although the logos and colors were not; the league decided for the USFL stunt to be authentic, all of the brands had to be the same as the originals. Therefore, the Lions would play as the Michigan Panthers for two weeks.

In regards to the Cardinals, although the USFL had two teams play in Arizona (the Wranglers and the relocated Oklahoma Outlaws), the Cardinals would play only as the Wranglers, since the Chiefs were playing as the Outlaws.

Three teams - the Patriots, Saints and Seahawks - would play as the Breakers; the Eagles and Ravens would play as the Stars.

The Cowboys took the field on Thanksgiving Day to play the Oakland Raiders/Invaders, wearing Gunslingers gear. For the second half, owner Jerry Jones had his players and coaches return to the field in Cowboys gear (the players kept the Gunslinger-branded pants, and wore their regular jerseys and helmets, to minimize time to change; still, the second half was delayed by 22 minutes, and Jones later fined $500,000 for the infraction).

The experiment would repeat itself for 2018 and 2019. Five NFL teams would play preseason games in or near their USFL brands’ former cities (Cowboys in San Antonio; Titans in Memphis, Dolphins in Orlando, Chiefs in Tulsa, and the Falcons in Birmingham).
 
Here's a quick one:

Kentucky beats Duke in the 1992 NCAA East Regional final (men's basketball). Four possibilities:

1. UK beats one of its archrivals, Indiana, in the Final Four and plays Michigan in the championship game (sorry Cincinnati fans; I don't see the butterflies favoring you in the other semi). UK then beats Michigan to win the national championship, coming off a two-year postseason ban. The Unforgettables are forever immortalized in college hoops history, although only one player (Jamal Mashburn) will go on to the NBA
1b. Michigan beats UK, and the Fab Five (five freshmen -- Chris Webber, Juwan Howard, Jalen Rose, Jimmy King, Ray Jackson) are forever immortalized in the history of college basketball
2. IU beats Kentucky, while Michigan beats Cincinnati in the other semi, setting up an all-Big Ten final. The Hoosiers then beat the Wolverines to win their first national title since 1987
2b. The Fab Five prevail, with the same result, and historical legacy, as in 1b

Also: Shaquille O'Neal of LSU is chosen for the Olympic Dream Team over Duke's Christian Laettner.
Also, what if Pitino's teams win in 1992 and 93 or 95? Does he leave UK for the pros sooner?
 
Also, what if Pitino's teams win in 1992 and 93 or 95? Does he leave UK for the pros sooner?
I edited it out but I did have him leave for the NBA after the '94-'95 season. What else can you do as a coach after winning the national championship, unless you intend to be at your school for a long time and become a dynasty? Pitino never struck me as having that ambition; he was going to the NBA sooner than later, and it would be a northeast team or a team in a major market (he would NOT leave UK for the Kings job).
 
I edited it out but I did have him leave for the NBA after the '94-'95 season. What else can you do as a coach after winning the national championship, unless you intend to be at your school for a long time and become a dynasty? Pitino never struck me as having that ambition; he was going to the NBA sooner than later, and it would be a northeast team or a team in a major market (he would NOT leave UK for the Kings job).
Maybe he goes back to the Knicks in 95 (that's when Pat Riley went to the Heat).
 
Maybe he goes back to the Knicks in 95 (that's when Pat Riley went to the Heat).
I agree...assuming Pat Riley going to Miami wasn't butterflied away. I think the Knicks, Celtics, Sixers, Nets, Lakers, and Heat would've been in play. Miami and Los Angeles would be the two markets outside of the northeast he might realistically have gone to; LA only for Jerry Buss, though, never for Donald Sterling. Otherwise Pitino was a northeast guy. At that point of his career, he'd have left Lexington to take the U of L(ouisville) job before taking the job in, say, Minnesota.
 
Sports/Mathematical implications of a perfect NCAA Bracket and its confirmation?
The odds are... 1 in 2.4 trillion I think
No perfect NCAA Bracket was ever made.
Would this just be a mathematical curiosity, or would it have greater implications in the sports world?
 
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