Sports What Ifs.

Here's an idea for getting Steve Walsh to declare early in the 1989 NFL draft: have Miami win the Catholics vs. Convicts game. Here's how: Cleveland Gary manages to hold on to the ball after being tackled instead of controversially fumbling it. Miami manages to get a touchdown and ties it at 31-31. They then kick the game-winning field goal.

Miami then goes on to win the NC in 1988, and Steve Walsh decides to declare for the NFL draft after that, avoiding the supplemental draft. Dallas drafts him, of course (Jimmy Johnson favored him, which is no surprise, especially since he was Walsh's coach at U of Miami), assuming they can with the first pick.

So how does Walsh do? And where does Troy Aikman go?
 
With regards to the Lions, Barry Sanders was high on Wayne Fontes' draft board...

Hold on, I've got an idea with several PoDs: 1. Steve Walsh leads Miami to a win over Notre Dame in the Catholics vs. Convicts game, leading to Miami winning the NC. Walsh declares for the NFL draft on time as a result and is drafted by Dallas.
2. Meanwhile, at Oklahoma State, Barry Sanders decides to go back for his senior season, doing well (and nearly winning the Heisman, but losing it to Andre Ware) and becoming the NFL #1 draft pick, where he gets drafted by...Dallas. Meanwhile, Deion Sanders is drafted by Detroit (Deion was Detroit's pick if Barry Sanders wasn't available, IMO) and Troy Aikman is drafted by Atlanta.
3. Brett Favre avoids his car accident (and subsequent Vicodin addiction) in July of 1990, leading to him having a good senior season at Southern Mississippi.
4. Steve Walsh, meanwhile, does well in 1989-1990, but Jimmy Johnson decides to trade him to Atlanta for Atlanta's first round pick...and uses it to get Brett Favre.

Assuming the Cowboys still keep their players from OTL, talk about a dynasty that'll make everyone in the NFL freak out for the next few years; this run by the Cowboys could rival the 1960s Green Bay Packer dynasty (and they'll be as hated as the Oakland Raiders were in the 1970s, IMO)...
 
Here's an idea for getting Steve Walsh to declare early in the 1989 NFL draft: have Miami win the Catholics vs. Convicts game. Here's how: Cleveland Gary manages to hold on to the ball after being tackled instead of controversially fumbling it. Miami manages to get a touchdown and ties it at 31-31. They then kick the game-winning field goal.

Miami then goes on to win the NC in 1988, and Steve Walsh decides to declare for the NFL draft after that, avoiding the supplemental draft. Dallas drafts him, of course (Jimmy Johnson favored him, which is no surprise, especially since he was Walsh's coach at U of Miami), assuming they can with the first pick.

So how does Walsh do? And where does Troy Aikman go?
Here's an addition to that: Have him and Washington State QB Timm Rosenbach both declare in time for 1989.

In my opinion, the QB's would have been ranked in this order: Aikman, Rosenbach, and then Walsh. I don't see Dallas taking anyone but Aikman #1 overall.

Then, Rosenbach probably goes to KC with the fourth overall pick (Detroit finds Barry Sanders too good to pass up at 3), and Steve Walsh probably gets drafted early in Round 2 (GB is a possibility. They were disappointed that Dallas got both Aikman and Walsh at the time).
 
Yeah, Aikman was a good QB, and it'll be very hard for Dallas to pass him up...

Here's a variation: let's assume that Sanders decides to complete his senior year at Oklahoma State, @AltSptHst; where do Rosenbach and Walsh go in 1989 if they both declare on time? (IMO, if Walsh wasn't available for Dallas in the supplemental draft, Dallas would have the #1 pick in 1990, and would likely draft Sanders; a Dallas team with Sanders probably wins as many as five straight SBs...)
 
Yeah, Aikman was a good QB, and it'll be very hard for Dallas to pass him up...

Here's a variation: let's assume that Sanders decides to complete his senior year at Oklahoma State, @AltSptHst; where do Rosenbach and Walsh go in 1989 if they both declare on time? (IMO, if Walsh wasn't available for Dallas in the supplemental draft, Dallas would have the #1 pick in 1990, and would likely draft Sanders; a Dallas team with Sanders probably wins as many as five straight SBs...)
If Barry Sanders isn't there, the Lions probably draft Rosenbach. They really didn't have a QB at the time. As for Walsh, I still say that GB early in Round 2 (they don't trade that pick to Cleveland in this world) is a possibility.
 
So much cowherder fans...

what if matt leinart was a success?
Depends on what you mean by "success". A young Leinart as QB might still not be as good as a veteran Kurt Warner, and they might not have reached the Super Bowl as a result. Even if Leinart ends up being Eli or Philip Rivers level, I don't know if the Cardinals can push past the NFC Championship game. I think Leinart would have to be generational QB talent to get the Cardinals to a Super Bowl
 
Yeah, Aikman was a good QB, and it'll be very hard for Dallas to pass him up...
Very easy..he stay at Oklahoma and declare early...where he could end? Bears? Colts? Cards?

Depends on what you mean by "success". A young Leinart as QB might still not be as good as a veteran Kurt Warner, and they might not have reached the Super Bowl as a result. Even if Leinart ends up being Eli or Philip Rivers level, I don't know if the Cardinals can push past the NFC Championship game. I think Leinart would have to be generational QB talent to get the Cardinals to a Super Bowl
He was suppose to be pre injury Carson palmer, i'm asking someone like rodgers was, something is dependanble even if not as good as him, heck Leinart was so acomplished in college to pro would be hard to replicated. Someone QB is not a fucking question till...dunno 2020?
 
Another WI: WI Aikman doesn't break his leg in 1984 and his ankle in 1985 (the latter led to Jamelie Holloway becoming quarterback and to Oklahoma switching back to the wishbone offense which, in turn, led to Oklahoma winning the national championship--take that out and Aikman doesn't leave Oklahoma); this leads to him staying on as QB at Oklahoma (he transferred to UCLA after Holloway led Oklahoma to the national championship) and he finishes his senior season in 1987 and comes out in the 1988 draft...

Who drafts him in 1988?
 
But didnt TRwant to ban football because it was to violent?
TR was a fan of the game but hated the fact that people got killed playing it. He helped spearhead reforms that enabled it to survive past the early days; if not for him and those like him, we may be watching, I don’t know, rugby today.
 
TR was a fan of the game but hated the fact that people got killed playing it. He helped spearhead reforms that enabled it to survive past the early days; if not for him and those like him, we may be watching, I don’t know, rugby today.
Baseball, or European base Football(aka soccer), don't doubt MLB would exploit that, so we could get a more massive MLB instead...with Baskeball as the winter sport
 
WI Art Modell never moved the Browns to Baltimore and establish the Ravens?
Well, bud adams move his oilers to Baltimore to take advantage the new stadium, Houston got the texans and to avoid the mess of having a odd number of franchise, the NFL accept a new member(mark cuban?) in LA, the rams stays, Tennesse never got their NFL franchise or the jags move them.
 
Baseball, or European base Football(aka soccer), don't doubt MLB would exploit that, so we could get a more massive MLB instead...with Baskeball as the winter sport
Well of course, and I doubt rugby would get the same foothold right away as football, but we may have a “big five” in America with baseball, soccer, basketball, hockey and rugby.
 
Well of course, and I doubt rugby would get the same foothold right away as football, but we may have a “big five” in America with baseball, soccer, basketball, hockey and rugby.
nah Rugby is boring, very boring(someone watch both football say it). So just Big Four...that change anything how thing will got for the future, when MLS could be a titan next to a more powerful MLB and NBA...or maybe the NBA bite it and is just MLB and MLS and NHL?
 
WI Seahawks never get rid of Steven Hauschka, or at the very least didn't replace him with Blair Walsh? Would they have made the playoffs 2 seasons ago without Walsh blowing a couple of games?
 
WI the Skins bit the bullet and drafted Charlie Ward over Heath Schuler?

(You could ask the same question with the Vikings drafting Ward over CB DeWayne Washington).
 
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